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On Sun, 2 Jan 2011 08:53:00 -0800 (PST), Richard Henry
wrote this crap: One point: I have driven a VW Bug wearing ski boots. I had to comment on this. Are you serious? How far did you drive? The parking lot? I seriously don't believe you. Vote for Palin-Brown in 2012. Repeal the nightmares, Seriously, my sister is working in Denver this month. I'm thinking of going to Aspen or Vail. Anyone heading there? I got a place to stay. This signature is now the ultimate power in the universe |
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On Jan 2, 3:57*pm, VtSkier wrote:
On 01/02/2011 01:08 PM, NormG wrote: *wrote in message ... On 01/02/2011 10:30 AM, downhill wrote: VtSkier wrote: On 01/02/2011 10:05 AM, downhill wrote: VtSkier wrote: http://www.economist.com/blogs/babba...ge_hits_slopes The guy writing this is apparently a snowboarder. not bad I think the only point we did not make on this group is you have less of a chance of a joint injury on a snowboard. He comments that skis are faster. I noticed that too. AFAIK, the most common skier injury is broken or otherwise messed up thumb. I think the snowboarder's most common injury is a broken wrist. I may be out of date with those things, but when my son wanted to try snowboarding, I made sure he had gloves with the included wrist splints. I gathered he was meaning knee or shoulder injuries which have a tendency to really crimp ones life style My son has agreed to take skiing lessons at Greek Peak, I am going to be spending the days at NASTAR training and a race on sunday so mommy is doing the spa and making sure he is at ski lesson. My son was a bit older than yours when he tried snow sliding sports. Probably too old to learn to enjoy the first few times out. He subsequently became a city boy. AFAIK, arm and shoulder injuries are fairly common to snowboarders, at least as common as to skiers. The only advantage is leg injuries which are not as common to snowboarders due to the fact that both legs work together, though I have heard of a snowboarder breaking a let. Certainly the chance for hyper-extension type injuries (ACL/MCL) are less for snowboarders. Correct in my experience. Most skier calls were for tweeked knees while snoboarders landed on their outstetched hands quite often causing dislocated shoulders. and you can have the pleasure of hearing him scream all the way down the sled ride to the bottom because Patrol has been instructed to never set a dislocated shoulder.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Our local paramedics/firemen/ambulance personnel also do not try to relieve the pain (other than to tell you to grin and bear it). does anyone know why they aren't allowed to do anything? |
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On 01/02/11 08:53, Richard Henry wrote:
On Jan 2, 5:44 am, wrote: http://www.economist.com/blogs/babba...ge_hits_slopes The guy writing this is apparently a snowboarder. One point: I have driven a VW Bug wearing ski boots. The leather lace-up kind? Costner supposedly chose to wear ski boots in Waterworld. Yet another grievous error... -- Cheers, Bev ========= Kevin Costner calls in a bomb threat: "Hey, I've got this great idea for a sequel to Waterworld!" |
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On 1/2/11 1:39 PM, VtSkier wrote:
On 01/02/2011 11:53 AM, Richard Henry wrote: On Jan 2, 5:44 am, wrote: http://www.economist.com/blogs/babba...ge_hits_slopes The guy writing this is apparently a snowboarder. One point: I have driven a VW Bug wearing ski boots. When I owned a VW Bug, my ski boots were soft enough to drive it. And I did so too. did your leathers have an instep strap? lace-up inners? fancy boot press to flatten the sole? those things were like modern hiking boots. you could dance in them, if there was a girl your age at the apre ski party. of course you could drive in them; except I didn't have a car. |
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On Jan 2, 2:29*pm, lal_truckee wrote:
On 1/2/11 1:39 PM, VtSkier wrote: On 01/02/2011 11:53 AM, Richard Henry wrote: On Jan 2, 5:44 am, wrote: http://www.economist.com/blogs/babba...ge_hits_slopes The guy writing this is apparently a snowboarder. One point: I have driven a VW Bug wearing ski boots. When I owned a VW Bug, my ski boots were soft enough to drive it. And I did so too. did your leathers have an instep strap? lace-up inners? fancy boot press to flatten the sole? those things were like modern hiking boots. you could dance in them, if there was a girl your age at the apre ski party. of course you could drive in them; except I didn't have a car. That's a pretty good description. The bottoms were laminated leather, and the toes got a little ugly after kicking steps up Tuckerman's. |
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On Jan 2, 2:12*pm, wrote:
On Sun, 2 Jan 2011 08:53:00 -0800 (PST), Richard Henry wrote this crap: One point: *I have driven a VW Bug wearing ski boots. I had to comment on this. *Are you serious? *How far did you drive? The parking lot? *I seriously don't believe you. From Waterville Valley to my parent's house in Littleton. |
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On Jan 2, 2:23*pm, The Real Bev wrote:
On 01/02/11 08:53, Richard Henry wrote: On Jan 2, 5:44 am, *wrote: *http://www.economist.com/blogs/babba...ge_hits_slopes *The guy writing this is apparently a snowboarder. One point: *I have driven a VW Bug wearing ski boots. The leather lace-up kind? Costner supposedly chose to wear ski boots in Waterworld. *Yet another grievous error... -- Cheers, Bev ========= Kevin Costner calls in a bomb threat: *"Hey, I've got this great idea for a sequel to Waterworld!" Double lace-up. The inner boot could be removed to help dry them out quicker. |
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wrote in message ... The guy writing this is apparently a snowboarder. not bad I think the only point we did not make on this group is you have less of a chance of a joint injury on a snowboard. He comments that skis are faster. I noticed that too. AFAIK, the most common skier injury is broken or otherwise messed up thumb. I think the snowboarder's most common injury is a broken wrist. I may be out of date with those things, but when my son wanted to try snowboarding, I made sure he had gloves with the included wrist splints. I gathered he was meaning knee or shoulder injuries which have a tendency to really crimp ones life style My son has agreed to take skiing lessons at Greek Peak, I am going to be spending the days at NASTAR training and a race on sunday so mommy is doing the spa and making sure he is at ski lesson. My son was a bit older than yours when he tried snow sliding sports. Probably too old to learn to enjoy the first few times out. He subsequently became a city boy. AFAIK, arm and shoulder injuries are fairly common to snowboarders, at least as common as to skiers. The only advantage is leg injuries which are not as common to snowboarders due to the fact that both legs work together, though I have heard of a snowboarder breaking a let. Certainly the chance for hyper-extension type injuries (ACL/MCL) are less for snowboarders. Correct in my experience. Most skier calls were for tweeked knees while snoboarders landed on their outstetched hands quite often causing dislocated shoulders. and you can have the pleasure of hearing him scream all the way down the sled ride to the bottom because Patrol has been instructed to never set a dislocated shoulder.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Our local paramedics/firemen/ambulance personnel also do not try to relieve the pain (other than to tell you to grin and bear it). does anyone know why they aren't allowed to do anything? ================== I'm thinking VT means reduce the dislocation, rather than apply pain management. We (patrol) do apply immobilization to a dislocation, to not do so would risk further injury on the trip down. Most of the actual doctors who pass thru our clinic will not reduce a dislocation without an xray first unless the patient has a history of dislocating that joint. The risk of nerve damage is too great. As far as pain management, some patrol are certified in minor medications like entonox or Tylenol, but, in a scenario where circulatory or nerve damage is possible most will prefer the patient be seen by a higher level of care in a relatively unadulterated state before they add meds. Most of our protocols state no meds until seen by a doctor. Once the doctor forms an opinion he can drug all he wants. In my experience Ambulance can apply pain management right up to morphine if they feel it is appropriate. Firemen/first responders usually will not because Ambulance is hardly ever more than a few minutes behind them and why take the potential liability when someone else can do so? Remember, when your mother gives you a tylenol she is not assuming a great deal of liability, but if I respond to your wreak and offer it to you I am. Various levels of responders may work with different protocols in your area. |
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