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FIS Low Temperature Limit?
Recently read that this weekend's nordic races in Gallivare, Sweden were
held at "below zero" temperatures. I suppose that means below 0F, as the talk was of severe cold. Is there a low temperature limit for a FIS sanctioned xc-ski event? I imagine that keeping people from racing in a Worldloppet race due to cold might cause a revolution. Shorten the race maybe, delay the start, but not hold it? I suppose in a WC event there is an issue for spectators and media people as well. Do these races get postponed due to severe cold? Gary Jacobson Balmy Rosendale, NY |
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On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 01:52:53 GMT, "Gary Jacobson"
wrote: Recently read that this weekend's nordic races in Gallivare, Sweden were held at "below zero" temperatures. I suppose that means below 0F, as the talk was of severe cold. Is there a low temperature limit for a FIS sanctioned xc-ski event? I think it's -20C. I imagine that keeping people from racing in a Worldloppet race due to cold might cause a revolution. Shorten the race maybe, delay the start, but not hold it? I suppose in a WC event there is an issue for spectators and media people as well. Do these races get postponed due to severe cold? When the world championships were in Lahti a few years ago the women's 30K race was cancelled and the men's race 50K was pushed back a few hours. JT **************************** Remove "remove" to reply Visit http://www.jt10000.com **************************** |
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John Forrest Tomlinson wrote:
On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 01:52:53 GMT, "Gary Jacobson" wrote: Recently read that this weekend's nordic races in Gallivare, Sweden were held at "below zero" temperatures. I suppose that means below 0F, as the talk was of severe cold. Is there a low temperature limit for a FIS sanctioned xc-ski event? I think it's -20C. Correct. The norwegian coach for the (winning) female team had a personal limit of -18, if it had been any colder than that (but still within -20), he would have pulled the team from the event. The norwegian second-leg runner (Vibeke Skofterud) was the only one on the team who didn't handle the conditions too well, she dropped back quite a bit, and seemed quite a bit 'worse for wear' afterwards. Terje -- - "almost all programming can be viewed as an exercise in caching" |
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"Gary Jacobson" wrote in message ... Recently read that this weekend's nordic races in Gallivare, Sweden were held at "below zero" temperatures. I suppose that means below 0F, as the talk was of severe cold. Is there a low temperature limit for a FIS sanctioned xc-ski event? From the FIS "International Ski Competition Rules": For International competitions (WC, Continental Cup, etc). If the temperature is below -20 ° C, measured at the coldest point of the course, a competition will be postponed or cancelled by the Jury. For "Popular Cross-Country Competitions" (PCCC), which are competitions open to all Cross-Country competitors, licensed and non-licensed, without limitation on competition distance or format: Between minus 15° and minus 25° C: If the temperature level is forecast to be between minus 15°and minus 25°C at any point on the course, recommendations regarding cold weather protection should be made available to the participants. Under such conditions it is the responsibility of the participants to seek the information and to follow the recommendations given by the organiser. Minus 25° C and below: If the temperature in a major portion of the course is minus 25° C or below, the competition shall be delayed or cancelled. I imagine that keeping people from racing in a Worldloppet race due to cold might cause a revolution. Shorten the race maybe, delay the start, but not hold it? Many of you guys have a competitor "mindset"; if somebody on the side of the trail tells you that you have bad frostbite, will you stop? No way! I was at a Loppet last winter where the start was delayed until the temperture "climbed" to -20C. Even when asked repeatedly to stop, most of the participants wouldn't listen. I am sure they still wear the scars from the awful frostbites they got on that day. I suppose in a WC event there is an issue for spectators and media people as well. Do these races get postponed due to severe cold? Spectators can always put on warmer clothes or walk into a warm place. Competitors can't. the decision to postpone or cancel is made for the well-being of the competitors. Gary Jacobson Balmy Rosendale, NY BarryT |
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Terje Mathisen wrote in message ...
John Forrest Tomlinson wrote: On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 01:52:53 GMT, "Gary Jacobson" wrote: Is there a low temperature limit for a FIS sanctioned xc-ski event? I think it's -20C. I believe that most local races (except the Birkie for the Midwest folks) are probably not FIS sanctioned, and the -20 C (-4 F) is optional. I think junior and senior events are better than master events at following a temp limit. Once the temp goes below 0 F (-18 C), I try to switch to the classic event. When the temp goes below about -10 F (-23 C), it can be faster to classic ski than skate in a freestyle event. If there's new snow, the balance swings to classic much quicker. When temps are predicted to go below the FIS limit, I start looking to bag the race. I think it gets dangerous to be out there (break a pole, break a binding, etc and you get cold pretty fast when you're wearing lycra). Also, it can be hard on the lungs, and my coach freezes her ass off. Jay Wenner |
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"BarryT" wrote in message . ..
Spectators can always put on warmer clothes or walk into a warm place. Competitors can't. the decision to postpone or cancel is made for the well-being of the competitors. A staffperson at the Lake Placid Loppet that was postponed an hour a few years ago, and a few weeks last year, told me that their race also worries about the many volunteers around the course in extreme cold conditions. JT |
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RSN skiers,
Just a side topic on cold conditions. When looking at cross country ski wax charts, remember that FIS rules allow/require the race to be cancelled if the temp ANYWHERE on the race course is -20c or colder. So, you are not going to find much research on optimum grip wax or glide wax for anything that cold. You are also are not going to find any race suits for that cold temp either. Cheers, Bruce Freeburger Gary Jacobson wrote: Recently read that this weekend's nordic races in Gallivare, Sweden were held at "below zero" temperatures. I suppose that means below 0F, as the talk was of severe cold. Is there a low temperature limit for a FIS sanctioned xc-ski event? I imagine that keeping people from racing in a Worldloppet race due to cold might cause a revolution. Shorten the race maybe, delay the start, but not hold it? I suppose in a WC event there is an issue for spectators and media people as well. Do these races get postponed due to severe cold? Gary Jacobson Balmy Rosendale, NY |
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According to FasterSkier.com, the FIS limit is about to be raised to
minus 18C for short races and minus 15C for longer ones. http://www.fasterskier.com/news.php?id=1565 Alex "USENET (at) BIKESonTV.com" "USENET (at) BIKESonTV.com" wrote in message ... RSN skiers, Just a side topic on cold conditions. When looking at cross country ski wax charts, remember that FIS rules allow/require the race to be cancelled if the temp ANYWHERE on the race course is -20c or colder. So, you are not going to find much research on optimum grip wax or glide wax for anything that cold. You are also are not going to find any race suits for that cold temp either. Cheers, Bruce Freeburger Gary Jacobson wrote: Recently read that this weekend's nordic races in Gallivare, Sweden were held at "below zero" temperatures. I suppose that means below 0F, as the talk was of severe cold. Is there a low temperature limit for a FIS sanctioned xc-ski event? I imagine that keeping people from racing in a Worldloppet race due to cold might cause a revolution. Shorten the race maybe, delay the start, but not hold it? I suppose in a WC event there is an issue for spectators and media people as well. Do these races get postponed due to severe cold? Gary Jacobson Balmy Rosendale, NY |
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