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Dear All,
just back from an excellent ski tour in Norway. One of my first chores in returning from such trips is to plan the following years one. I might be in Ontario next February and I am exploring the possibility of a tour there and/or in Quebec and would welcome advice or websites that could give advice to help me plan the trip for a group. My first impressions are that back-country touring revolves around marked trails and pre-booked accommodation. Distance, basic maps, lack of drop-in huts/hostels and trees blocking GPS's are issues that we don't have to deal with. to the same extent, in Europe. Any way I would welcome any advice you can offer. Thanks, Neil |
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"Neil" wrote in message ... Dear All, just back from an excellent ski tour in Norway. One of my first chores in returning from such trips is to plan the following years one. I might be in Ontario next February and I am exploring the possibility of a tour there and/or in Quebec and would welcome advice or websites that could give advice to help me plan the trip for a group. My first impressions are that back-country touring revolves around marked trails and pre-booked accommodation. Distance, basic maps, lack of drop-in huts/hostels and trees blocking GPS's are issues that we don't have to deal with. to the same extent, in Europe. Any way I would welcome any advice you can offer. Thanks, Neil Ok, as a former Ontarian, here are my suggestions: Hardwood Hills www.hardwoodhills.ca Near Barrie/Toronto Algonquin Provinical Park www.algonquinpark.on.ca North Bay Nordic www.northbaynordic.ca Sudbury Area: http://www.laurentiannordic.com/ In Sudbury, and http://www.onapingfallsnordics.com/ which is about an hour north of Sudbury And 2 nice gems: www.wasiski.com/ just south of North Bay and www.temiskamingnordic.ca which is near the "Tri Towns" Latchford. As far as places to stay... well, I have no idea your price range, and what amenities. There are numerious hotels/resorts close to each of these. However, since Latchford is a small town, you may have to travel up to 50km to it, but well worth it. Micheal |
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Dear Michael,
Thanks for your reply and suggestions, we are interested in ski-touring rather than cross-country racing, what Canadians seem to call back-country skiing. We have just toured in Norway going at one stage 5 days without seeing anyone else. We stayed at DNT and AST huts, which had quite good facilities, but were empty apart from us - and they operate on an honesty system. None of these huts were more than 10k from each other. My impression is that we will have to choose a base and do loops from there, perhaps changing our base for variety. I know Ontario in the summer and while it is pleasant and has some nice small towns such as Latchford, by Scottish and Norwegian standards it is fairly flat and distances are much greater than Europe. I haven't been in Quebec and I am wondering if we will get more variety of terrain there within in smaller distances? Thanks, Neil "Micheal Artindale" wrote in message news:hntyl.18565$Db2.14721@edtnps83... "Neil" wrote in message ... Dear All, just back from an excellent ski tour in Norway. One of my first chores in returning from such trips is to plan the following years one. I might be in Ontario next February and I am exploring the possibility of a tour there and/or in Quebec and would welcome advice or websites that could give advice to help me plan the trip for a group. My first impressions are that back-country touring revolves around marked trails and pre-booked accommodation. Distance, basic maps, lack of drop-in huts/hostels and trees blocking GPS's are issues that we don't have to deal with. to the same extent, in Europe. Any way I would welcome any advice you can offer. Thanks, Neil Ok, as a former Ontarian, here are my suggestions: Hardwood Hills www.hardwoodhills.ca Near Barrie/Toronto Algonquin Provinical Park www.algonquinpark.on.ca North Bay Nordic www.northbaynordic.ca Sudbury Area: http://www.laurentiannordic.com/ In Sudbury, and http://www.onapingfallsnordics.com/ which is about an hour north of Sudbury And 2 nice gems: www.wasiski.com/ just south of North Bay and www.temiskamingnordic.ca which is near the "Tri Towns" Latchford. As far as places to stay... well, I have no idea your price range, and what amenities. There are numerious hotels/resorts close to each of these. However, since Latchford is a small town, you may have to travel up to 50km to it, but well worth it. Micheal |
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On Mar 26, 7:57*am, "Neil" wrote:
Dear Michael, Thanks for your reply and suggestions, we are interested in ski-touring rather than cross-country racing, what Canadians seem to call back-country skiing. We have just toured in Norway going at one stage 5 days without seeing anyone else. We stayed at DNT and AST huts, which had quite good facilities, but were empty apart from us - and they operate on an honesty system. None of these huts were more than 10k from each other. My impression is that we will have to choose a base and do loops from there, perhaps changing our base for variety. I know Ontario in the summer and while it is pleasant and has some nice small towns such as Latchford, by Scottish and Norwegian standards it is fairly flat and distances are much greater than Europe. I haven't been in Quebec and I am wondering if we will get more variety of terrain there within in smaller distances? Thanks, Neil"Micheal Artindale" wrote in message news:hntyl.18565$Db2.14721@edtnps83... "Neil" wrote in message .. . Dear All, just back from an excellent ski tour in Norway. One of my first chores in returning from such trips is to plan the following years one. I might be in Ontario next February and I am exploring the possibility of a tour there and/or in Quebec and would welcome advice or websites that could give advice to help me plan the trip for a group. My first impressions are that back-country touring revolves around marked trails and pre-booked accommodation. Distance, basic maps, lack of drop-in huts/hostels and trees blocking GPS's are issues that we don't have to deal with. to the same extent, in Europe. Any way I would welcome any advice you can offer. Thanks, Neil Ok, as a former Ontarian, here are my suggestions: Hardwood Hillswww.hardwoodhills.ca*Near Barrie/Toronto Algonquin Provinical Parkwww.algonquinpark.on.ca North Bay Nordicwww.northbaynordic.ca Sudbury Area:http://www.laurentiannordic.com/In Sudbury, and http://www.onapingfallsnordics.com/which is about an hour north of Sudbury And 2 nice gems:www.wasiski.com/just south of North Bay and www.temiskamingnordic.cawhich is near the "Tri Towns" *Latchford. As far as places to stay... well, I have no idea your price range, and what amenities. There are numerious hotels/resorts close to each of these. However, since Latchford is a small town, you may have to travel up to 50km to it, but well worth it. Micheal- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - The Chic-Chocs area in Quebec's Gaspe peninsula (http://www.sepaq.com/ pq/gas/en/ ) are likely the best for country ski touring in Eastern Canada. They aren't flat: good for off-piste boarding, apline, telemark, and you need to be avalanche aware and trained if you head for some of the slopes there. There are huts that you can stay at and ski between you'll need to book in advance from SEPAQ. I have done a 5 day ski tour and stayed in three different huts there. Gatineau Park, in Quebec, near Ottawa has over-night stay huts and back country trails too, if you know where to go (not on the official maps) but it would be hard to put together a trip that's more than a couple of days, since the overnight stay huts are clustered close together in one sector of the park. In Ontario, Algonquin Park is the closest thing, AFAIK, but I'm not familiar with the hut system there. Parham. |
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Thanks for the suggestion. I have read reports of tours in the Chic-Choc
mountains that were quite promising, 2 Questions: do you need to prebook these huts and are there good maps of the area - I could only find basic road maps in Ontario wrote in message ... On Mar 26, 7:57 am, "Neil" wrote: Dear Michael, Thanks for your reply and suggestions, we are interested in ski-touring rather than cross-country racing, what Canadians seem to call back-country skiing. We have just toured in Norway going at one stage 5 days without seeing anyone else. We stayed at DNT and AST huts, which had quite good facilities, but were empty apart from us - and they operate on an honesty system. None of these huts were more than 10k from each other. My impression is that we will have to choose a base and do loops from there, perhaps changing our base for variety. I know Ontario in the summer and while it is pleasant and has some nice small towns such as Latchford, by Scottish and Norwegian standards it is fairly flat and distances are much greater than Europe. I haven't been in Quebec and I am wondering if we will get more variety of terrain there within in smaller distances? Thanks, Neil"Micheal Artindale" wrote in message news:hntyl.18565$Db2.14721@edtnps83... "Neil" wrote in message .. . Dear All, just back from an excellent ski tour in Norway. One of my first chores in returning from such trips is to plan the following years one. I might be in Ontario next February and I am exploring the possibility of a tour there and/or in Quebec and would welcome advice or websites that could give advice to help me plan the trip for a group. My first impressions are that back-country touring revolves around marked trails and pre-booked accommodation. Distance, basic maps, lack of drop-in huts/hostels and trees blocking GPS's are issues that we don't have to deal with. to the same extent, in Europe. Any way I would welcome any advice you can offer. Thanks, Neil Ok, as a former Ontarian, here are my suggestions: Hardwood Hillswww.hardwoodhills.ca Near Barrie/Toronto Algonquin Provinical Parkwww.algonquinpark.on.ca North Bay Nordicwww.northbaynordic.ca Sudbury Area:http://www.laurentiannordic.com/In Sudbury, and http://www.onapingfallsnordics.com/which is about an hour north of Sudbury And 2 nice gems:www.wasiski.com/just south of North Bay and www.temiskamingnordic.cawhich is near the "Tri Towns" Latchford. As far as places to stay... well, I have no idea your price range, and what amenities. There are numerious hotels/resorts close to each of these. However, since Latchford is a small town, you may have to travel up to 50km to it, but well worth it. Micheal- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - The Chic-Chocs area in Quebec's Gaspe peninsula (http://www.sepaq.com/ pq/gas/en/ ) are likely the best for country ski touring in Eastern Canada. They aren't flat: good for off-piste boarding, apline, telemark, and you need to be avalanche aware and trained if you head for some of the slopes there. There are huts that you can stay at and ski between you'll need to book in advance from SEPAQ. I have done a 5 day ski tour and stayed in three different huts there. Gatineau Park, in Quebec, near Ottawa has over-night stay huts and back country trails too, if you know where to go (not on the official maps) but it would be hard to put together a trip that's more than a couple of days, since the overnight stay huts are clustered close together in one sector of the park. In Ontario, Algonquin Park is the closest thing, AFAIK, but I'm not familiar with the hut system there. Parham. |
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On Mar 26, 12:49*pm, "Neil" wrote:
Thanks for the suggestion. I have read reports of tours in the Chic-Choc mountains that were quite promising, 2 Questions: do you need to prebook these huts and are there good maps of the area - I could only find basic road maps in wrote in message ... On Mar 26, 7:57 am, "Neil" wrote: Dear Michael, Thanks for your reply and suggestions, we are interested in ski-touring rather than cross-country racing, what Canadians seem to call back-country skiing. We have just toured in Norway going at one stage 5 days without seeing anyone else. We stayed at DNT and AST huts, which had quite good facilities, but were empty apart from us - and they operate on an honesty system. None of these huts were more than 10k from each other. My impression is that we will have to choose a base and do loops from there, perhaps changing our base for variety. I know Ontario in the summer and while it is pleasant and has some nice small towns such as Latchford, by Scottish and Norwegian standards it is fairly flat and distances are much greater than Europe. I haven't been in Quebec and I am wondering if we will get more variety of terrain there within in smaller distances? Thanks, Neil"Micheal Artindale" wrote in message news:hntyl.18565$Db2.14721@edtnps83... "Neil" wrote in message .. . Dear All, just back from an excellent ski tour in Norway. One of my first chores in returning from such trips is to plan the following years one. I might be in Ontario next February and I am exploring the possibility of a tour there and/or in Quebec and would welcome advice or websites that could give advice to help me plan the trip for a group. My first impressions are that back-country touring revolves around marked trails and pre-booked accommodation. Distance, basic maps, lack of drop-in huts/hostels and trees blocking GPS's are issues that we don't have to deal with. to the same extent, in Europe. Any way I would welcome any advice you can offer. Thanks, Neil Ok, as a former Ontarian, here are my suggestions: Hardwood Hillswww.hardwoodhills.caNear Barrie/Toronto Algonquin Provinical Parkwww.algonquinpark.on.ca North Bay Nordicwww.northbaynordic.ca Sudbury Area:http://www.laurentiannordic.com/InSudbury, and http://www.onapingfallsnordics.com/whichis about an hour north of Sudbury And 2 nice gems:www.wasiski.com/justsouth of North Bay and www.temiskamingnordic.cawhichis near the "Tri Towns" Latchford. As far as places to stay... well, I have no idea your price range, and what amenities. There are numerious hotels/resorts close to each of these. However, since Latchford is a small town, you may have to travel up to 50km to it, but well worth it. Micheal- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - The Chic-Chocs area in Quebec's Gaspe peninsula (http://www.sepaq.com/ pq/gas/en/ ) are likely the best for country ski touring in Eastern Canada. *They aren't flat: good for off-piste boarding, apline, telemark, and you need to be avalanche aware and trained if you head for some of the slopes there. There are huts that you can stay at and ski between you'll need to book in advance from SEPAQ. *I have done a 5 day ski tour and stayed in three different huts there. Gatineau Park, in Quebec, near Ottawa has over-night stay huts and back country trails too, if you know where to go (not on the official maps) but it would be hard to put together a trip that's more than a couple of days, since the overnight stay huts are clustered close together in one sector of the park. In Ontario, Algonquin Park is the closest thing, AFAIK, but I'm not familiar with the hut system there. Parham.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - You can find all topo maps of canada at: http://atlas.nrcan.gc.ca/site/english/maps/topo/map Search for map# 22B16 to get a fix for the relevant Chic-chocs maps. You do need to book the huts in advance. They are harder to get in March, but not too bad in Feb. You can contact SEPAQ. The relevant info, including a park map is at: http://www.sepaq.com/pq/gas/en/ Drop me a line if you need more. Parham. |
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Thanks Parham, That was very helpful, I'll pass it on to my friends.
Neil wrote in message ... On Mar 26, 12:49 pm, "Neil" wrote: Thanks for the suggestion. I have read reports of tours in the Chic-Choc mountains that were quite promising, 2 Questions: do you need to prebook these huts and are there good maps of the area - I could only find basic road maps in wrote in message ... On Mar 26, 7:57 am, "Neil" wrote: Dear Michael, Thanks for your reply and suggestions, we are interested in ski-touring rather than cross-country racing, what Canadians seem to call back-country skiing. We have just toured in Norway going at one stage 5 days without seeing anyone else. We stayed at DNT and AST huts, which had quite good facilities, but were empty apart from us - and they operate on an honesty system. None of these huts were more than 10k from each other. My impression is that we will have to choose a base and do loops from there, perhaps changing our base for variety. I know Ontario in the summer and while it is pleasant and has some nice small towns such as Latchford, by Scottish and Norwegian standards it is fairly flat and distances are much greater than Europe. I haven't been in Quebec and I am wondering if we will get more variety of terrain there within in smaller distances? Thanks, Neil"Micheal Artindale" wrote in message news:hntyl.18565$Db2.14721@edtnps83... "Neil" wrote in message .. . Dear All, just back from an excellent ski tour in Norway. One of my first chores in returning from such trips is to plan the following years one. I might be in Ontario next February and I am exploring the possibility of a tour there and/or in Quebec and would welcome advice or websites that could give advice to help me plan the trip for a group. My first impressions are that back-country touring revolves around marked trails and pre-booked accommodation. Distance, basic maps, lack of drop-in huts/hostels and trees blocking GPS's are issues that we don't have to deal with. to the same extent, in Europe. Any way I would welcome any advice you can offer. Thanks, Neil Ok, as a former Ontarian, here are my suggestions: Hardwood Hillswww.hardwoodhills.caNear Barrie/Toronto Algonquin Provinical Parkwww.algonquinpark.on.ca North Bay Nordicwww.northbaynordic.ca Sudbury Area:http://www.laurentiannordic.com/InSudbury, and http://www.onapingfallsnordics.com/whichis about an hour north of Sudbury And 2 nice gems:www.wasiski.com/justsouth of North Bay and www.temiskamingnordic.cawhichis near the "Tri Towns" Latchford. As far as places to stay... well, I have no idea your price range, and what amenities. There are numerious hotels/resorts close to each of these. However, since Latchford is a small town, you may have to travel up to 50km to it, but well worth it. Micheal- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - The Chic-Chocs area in Quebec's Gaspe peninsula (http://www.sepaq.com/ pq/gas/en/ ) are likely the best for country ski touring in Eastern Canada. They aren't flat: good for off-piste boarding, apline, telemark, and you need to be avalanche aware and trained if you head for some of the slopes there. There are huts that you can stay at and ski between you'll need to book in advance from SEPAQ. I have done a 5 day ski tour and stayed in three different huts there. Gatineau Park, in Quebec, near Ottawa has over-night stay huts and back country trails too, if you know where to go (not on the official maps) but it would be hard to put together a trip that's more than a couple of days, since the overnight stay huts are clustered close together in one sector of the park. In Ontario, Algonquin Park is the closest thing, AFAIK, but I'm not familiar with the hut system there. Parham.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - You can find all topo maps of canada at: http://atlas.nrcan.gc.ca/site/english/maps/topo/map Search for map# 22B16 to get a fix for the relevant Chic-chocs maps. You do need to book the huts in advance. They are harder to get in March, but not too bad in Feb. You can contact SEPAQ. The relevant info, including a park map is at: http://www.sepaq.com/pq/gas/en/ Drop me a line if you need more. Parham. |
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On 2009-03-26, Neil wrote:
Dear Michael, Thanks for your reply and suggestions, we are interested in ski-touring rather than cross-country racing, what Canadians seem to call back-country skiing. We have just toured in Norway going at one stage 5 days without seeing anyone else. We stayed at DNT and AST huts, which had quite good facilities, but were empty apart from us - and they operate on an honesty system. None of these huts were more than 10k from each other. My impression is that we will have to choose a base and do loops from there, perhaps changing our base for variety. I know Ontario in the summer and while it is pleasant and has some nice small towns such as Latchford, by Scottish and Norwegian standards it is fairly flat and distances are much greater than Europe. I haven't been in Quebec and I am wondering if we will get more variety of terrain there within in smaller distances? Thanks, Neil [--Snip--] Hello Neil, If you want remote and challenging skiing i would consider The Mont Vallins (Saguenay Lac-St-Jean region) as well as the "Traversée de Charlevoix" (North of the St-Lawrence, east of Quebec City). See the SEPAQ web site (www.sepaq.com) for the first. A bit less known than the Chic-Chocs but interresting if you have the required skiing skills. Sylvain Montreal, Qc, Canada fauvel at emt dot inrs dot ca |
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The "Charlevoix Ride" is a great backcountry trail to do (http://
www.traverseedecharlevoix.qc.ca/) by camping or going from shelter to shelter. The luggages can even be carried form shelter to shelter for a less demanding trip. I did it about 10 years ago and it has been one of my best memorable backcountry ski trip. Rock |
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The "Charlevoix ride" (http://www.traverseedecharlevoix.qc.ca/) is a
tremendous 105 km 5-7 day backcountry ski ride. I enjoyed it a lot when I was a "wildskier". They can even carry your luggages from shelter to shelter if your back does not follw your skis. Now, that I have come back on the tracks I really miss skiing backcountry.Winter's too short here in QC... Rock |
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