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Hi
What is better for training, running or cycling? How long is a piece of string? :O) I find that I can recover much quicker when cycling because 1. Get more time in, hence better for endurance and 2. I get very little, if any, muscular soreness from intense sessions. It would seem though that running is the norm for dry land training amongst the quick guys. (maybe that's not right though....) If I do my Anaerobic Threshold efforts on the bike, will this translate well onto the skis? On the other hand, if I do my theshold efforts whilst running (say 2 times a week) and then ride the rest of the time, will my AT rise on the bike? (and at the same time on the skis). I like doing both running and cycling so I want to keep doing both but at the same time gain max. possible fitness. Do (m)any of the top guys forego the running for the bike and rollerskis? thanks Bob |
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Hands down.... running.
(It's a little boring in here lately, this should liven it up. ) JK "Bob Creasote" wrote in message ... Hi What is better for training, running or cycling? How long is a piece of string? :O) I find that I can recover much quicker when cycling because 1. Get more time in, hence better for endurance and 2. I get very little, if any, muscular soreness from intense sessions. It would seem though that running is the norm for dry land training amongst the quick guys. (maybe that's not right though....) If I do my Anaerobic Threshold efforts on the bike, will this translate well onto the skis? On the other hand, if I do my theshold efforts whilst running (say 2 times a week) and then ride the rest of the time, will my AT rise on the bike? (and at the same time on the skis). I like doing both running and cycling so I want to keep doing both but at the same time gain max. possible fitness. Do (m)any of the top guys forego the running for the bike and rollerskis? thanks Bob --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.507 / Virus Database: 304 - Release Date: 8/4/03 |
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Sorry to be so anal about the questions but why is running better?
If I have a high cycling lactate threshold will it take long to transfer this over to running? i.e. the specificty thing. But then again both running and cycling are not skiing. If you know what I mean... thanks Bob "Jeff Kalember" schrieb im Newsbeitrag ... Hands down.... running. (It's a little boring in here lately, this should liven it up. ) JK "Bob Creasote" wrote in message ... Hi What is better for training, running or cycling? How long is a piece of string? :O) I find that I can recover much quicker when cycling because 1. Get more time in, hence better for endurance and 2. I get very little, if any, muscular soreness from intense sessions. It would seem though that running is the norm for dry land training amongst the quick guys. (maybe that's not right though....) If I do my Anaerobic Threshold efforts on the bike, will this translate well onto the skis? On the other hand, if I do my theshold efforts whilst running (say 2 times a week) and then ride the rest of the time, will my AT rise on the bike? (and at the same time on the skis). I like doing both running and cycling so I want to keep doing both but at the same time gain max. possible fitness. Do (m)any of the top guys forego the running for the bike and rollerskis? thanks Bob --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.507 / Virus Database: 304 - Release Date: 8/4/03 |
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Running is better because it more closely mimics the classic motion in
skiing. Also, by carrying your body weight you actually burn more calories and work harder over a specific period of time. but, it is also makes you more prone to injuries... so kind of a trade off there... Personally, I just prefer running for its ease & simplicity. JK "Bob Creasote" wrote in message ... Sorry to be so anal about the questions but why is running better? If I have a high cycling lactate threshold will it take long to transfer this over to running? i.e. the specificty thing. But then again both running and cycling are not skiing. If you know what I mean... thanks Bob "Jeff Kalember" schrieb im Newsbeitrag ... Hands down.... running. (It's a little boring in here lately, this should liven it up. ) JK "Bob Creasote" wrote in message ... Hi What is better for training, running or cycling? How long is a piece of string? :O) I find that I can recover much quicker when cycling because 1. Get more time in, hence better for endurance and 2. I get very little, if any, muscular soreness from intense sessions. It would seem though that running is the norm for dry land training amongst the quick guys. (maybe that's not right though....) If I do my Anaerobic Threshold efforts on the bike, will this translate well onto the skis? On the other hand, if I do my theshold efforts whilst running (say 2 times a week) and then ride the rest of the time, will my AT rise on the bike? (and at the same time on the skis). I like doing both running and cycling so I want to keep doing both but at the same time gain max. possible fitness. Do (m)any of the top guys forego the running for the bike and rollerskis? thanks Bob --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.507 / Virus Database: 304 - Release Date: 8/4/03 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.507 / Virus Database: 304 - Release Date: 8/4/03 |
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I'd agree with both Jeff and Matt on
this. And, the running IS much more specific than cycling, especially if you run up hills with XC poles and try to emulate ski tech. If you will do more cycling because you don't like to run, then I think that mtn biking is much better for skiers than road biking, or at least that climbing on the bike is better than the flats.... Erik Brooks, Seattle, who does a some of each, but mostly road biking just because it's how I get to work, and it's easy to add on very pleasant extra mileage along the way... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Morency" To: "Multiple recipients of list NORDIC-SKI" Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2003 8:41 AM Subject: Running or Cycling Rollerskiing is much more ski specific than either running or cycling. However, I would recommend doing what you enjoy. If you do not enjoy training you are less likely to train and more likely to quit training completely. --Matt "Bob Creasote" wrote in message ... Sorry to be so anal about the questions but why is running better? If I have a high cycling lactate threshold will it take long to transfer this over to running? i.e. the specificty thing. But then again both running and cycling are not skiing. If you know what I mean... thanks Bob "Jeff Kalember" schrieb im Newsbeitrag .. .. Hands down.... running. (It's a little boring in here lately, this should liven it up. ) JK "Bob Creasote" wrote in message ... Hi What is better for training, running or cycling? How long is a piece of string? :O) I find that I can recover much quicker when cycling because 1. Get more time in, hence better for endurance and 2. I get very little, if any, muscular soreness from intense sessions. It would seem though that running is the norm for dry land training amongst the quick guys. (maybe that's not right though....) If I do my Anaerobic Threshold efforts on the bike, will this translate well onto the skis? On the other hand, if I do my theshold efforts whilst running (say 2 times a week) and then ride the rest of the time, will my AT rise on the bike? (and at the same time on the skis). I like doing both running and cycling so I want to keep doing both but at the same time gain max. possible fitness. Do (m)any of the top guys forego the running for the bike and rollerskis? thanks Bob --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.507 / Virus Database: 304 - Release Date: 8/4/03 |
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If I have a high cycling lactate threshold will it take long to transfer
this over to running? In my experience you should give yourself 2 weeks. It always seems to take my body 1-2 weeks to "make the conversion". I'm not a racer and I don't study training methods but I've done a lot of different things and have had to "make the conversion" many times. For example, I was running about a 5:40 pace when I went into a period of not running for 6 months but I was jumping rope 5 days a week. When I started running again every training run for the 1st week felt like crap but was a PB (no rythm, quads felt slow - calves felt fast). The 2nd week the runs started to feel better and I continued to set new PB's. By the end of the 2 weeks I was running 5:20's. That's almost 2 min. off my training runs. Anyway your conditioning will transfer from one to the other!!! |
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Running is much less expensive than biking and that matters for some
of us here. I think that everyone here can afford to run, whereas others cannot afford the equipment for biking. So I think for one who is choosing one or the other from a financial perspective running is a better value. While some, for example sknyski, have preached about the advantages of not having a job, the above kind of thinking is a disadvantage of such a situation. Of course, exercise makes life's problems more bareable. --Matt "Bob Creasote" wrote in message ... Hi What is better for training, running or cycling? How long is a piece of string? :O) I find that I can recover much quicker when cycling because 1. Get more time in, hence better for endurance and 2. I get very little, if any, muscular soreness from intense sessions. It would seem though that running is the norm for dry land training amongst the quick guys. (maybe that's not right though....) If I do my Anaerobic Threshold efforts on the bike, will this translate well onto the skis? On the other hand, if I do my theshold efforts whilst running (say 2 times a week) and then ride the rest of the time, will my AT rise on the bike? (and at the same time on the skis). I like doing both running and cycling so I want to keep doing both but at the same time gain max. possible fitness. Do (m)any of the top guys forego the running for the bike and rollerskis? thanks Bob |
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Matt Morency wrote:
Running is much less expensive than biking and that matters for some of us here. I think that everyone here can afford to run, whereas others cannot afford the equipment for biking. Unless you are a techhead (well, aren't we all?), a servicable used bike can be had at garage sales for $25. You won't win your local crit, but climbing hills with the extra weight and rolling resistance of a more pedestrian machine (pardon the pun) is good training as well. . . Jim Farrell |
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I suppose I should qualify my statement
more - I should have said that I think that XC skiers benefit more from biking where you are out of the saddle a lot and using your arms and core muscles lots, as opposed to rides where you stay on the seat and do most of the work with your legs. I think that most mtn bike rides naturally are more 'whole-body' rides, but that's not always the case. Erik ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Goldenfeld" To: "Multiple recipients of list NORDIC-SKI" Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 9:14 PM Subject: Running or Cycling Why is mtn biking better? That's pretty arbitrary, since mtn biking tends to offer more of one kind of workout, namely hard. Those are valuable and, as Ken S. might attest, fill in well when lots of hilly rollerskiing or other extended hill work is not accessible. I think it helps to distinguish between specific training and general conditioning. Road biking allows a range of intensities, and thus can serve as, say, an easy 1.5 hr prelude to a hard rollerski the next day, a 2 hour recovery workout the day after doing something hard, or, with the right terrain, a long hard or easy workout in itself. The 50K club folks notwithstanding, more than two hours on rollerskis is not easy and for most people technique starts breaking down by then, if not earlier. Road biking offers one alternative for endurance conditioning that can't be gotten in other ways and, if properly used, will over time make rollerskiing and other workouts a lot easier. Gene Erik Brooks wrote: I'd agree with both Jeff and Matt on this. And, the running IS much more specific than cycling, especially if you run up hills with XC poles and try to emulate ski tech. If you will do more cycling because you don't like to run, then I think that mtn biking is much better for skiers than road biking, or at least that climbing on the bike is better than the flats.... Erik Brooks, Seattle, who does a some of each, but mostly road biking just because it's how I get to work, and it's easy to add on very pleasant extra mileage along the way... |
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