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Does Such a Ski Exist?
I'm looking for advice on skis to demo this year for the kind of
skiing that I do. I'm 53 years old and started skiing 5 years ago. I ski about 20 days per year, mostly in Utah - Alta, Snowbird, Brighton & Solitude. I ski with some buddies from my ski club, who are mostly better skiers than I am. I ski almost exclusively on single-black ungroomed runs. While I do encounter some deep snow, I spend a lot of time in tracked bumps with at least some powder component. I skis relatively slowly through the bumps, picking my way, not blasting through them. This is what I like to do. I own a pair of 170cm Rossignol Bandit B1's that I bought when I began skiing 5 years ago, and have been on them since. I would like to buy a new pair of skis this year that will enhance my experience in this type of snow, and perhaps help me to advance a bit. Can you suggest some skis that I might demo on my first trip out this year? Something like a K2 Apache Xplorer seems to fit in some ways - mid-fat and reasonable turn radius, but I have heard that I should be looking at a "softer" ski. Should I be looking more at "front-side" skis because I spend much time in the bumps? What length? Any advice will be appreciated. Thanks, Jack |
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By the way...I'm 5' 10" and 170 lbs.
Jack On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 21:01:07 -0400, Jack O wrote: I'm looking for advice on skis to demo this year for the kind of skiing that I do. I'm 53 years old and started skiing 5 years ago. I ski about 20 days per year, mostly in Utah - Alta, Snowbird, Brighton & Solitude. I ski with some buddies from my ski club, who are mostly better skiers than I am. I ski almost exclusively on single-black ungroomed runs. While I do encounter some deep snow, I spend a lot of time in tracked bumps with at least some powder component. I skis relatively slowly through the bumps, picking my way, not blasting through them. This is what I like to do. I own a pair of 170cm Rossignol Bandit B1's that I bought when I began skiing 5 years ago, and have been on them since. I would like to buy a new pair of skis this year that will enhance my experience in this type of snow, and perhaps help me to advance a bit. Can you suggest some skis that I might demo on my first trip out this year? Something like a K2 Apache Xplorer seems to fit in some ways - mid-fat and reasonable turn radius, but I have heard that I should be looking at a "softer" ski. Should I be looking more at "front-side" skis because I spend much time in the bumps? What length? Any advice will be appreciated. Thanks, Jack |
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I am 55 185 lbs been skiing 50 yrs. I really prefer an all mountain ski for
the kind of skiing you describe. Rossignol are good. My favorite bar none Atomic Metrons..easy turing pretty good in the slow bumps and good in powder also. And do they carve carve carve....at medium speeds, a real treat and easy.... "Jack O" wrote in message ... I'm looking for advice on skis to demo this year for the kind of skiing that I do. I'm 53 years old and started skiing 5 years ago. I ski about 20 days per year, mostly in Utah - Alta, Snowbird, Brighton & Solitude. I ski with some buddies from my ski club, who are mostly better skiers than I am. I ski almost exclusively on single-black ungroomed runs. While I do encounter some deep snow, I spend a lot of time in tracked bumps with at least some powder component. I skis relatively slowly through the bumps, picking my way, not blasting through them. This is what I like to do. I own a pair of 170cm Rossignol Bandit B1's that I bought when I began skiing 5 years ago, and have been on them since. I would like to buy a new pair of skis this year that will enhance my experience in this type of snow, and perhaps help me to advance a bit. Can you suggest some skis that I might demo on my first trip out this year? Something like a K2 Apache Xplorer seems to fit in some ways - mid-fat and reasonable turn radius, but I have heard that I should be looking at a "softer" ski. Should I be looking more at "front-side" skis because I spend much time in the bumps? What length? Any advice will be appreciated. Thanks, Jack |
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Stuart wrote:
I am 55 185 lbs been skiing 50 yrs. I really prefer an all mountain ski for the kind of skiing you describe. Rossignol are good. My favorite bar none Atomic Metrons..easy turing pretty good in the slow bumps and good in powder also. And do they carve carve carve....at medium speeds, a real treat and easy.... Be careful. I own and heart my Metrons completely. However the 'flavor' Metrons I have are M11-B5 from two years ago. These are heavy (the worst part is carrying them to the lift) and some say unforgiving. I tend to go for skis which are stiff. This is probably due to my size and weight. I'm 6' tall and weigh 215 and am 66 years old(quiet Horvie). A few years ago I had Volkl 6 Stars and thought they were wimpy when others thought they were a handful. Metrons are a full line of All Mountain Skis. You will probably like some of them and dislike others. There are other skis which are outstanding and will do nicely what you desire. Salomon X-wing line comes to mind. Now, I occasionally (not nearly enough) ski your western mountains. By my handle, you can see I generally ski eastern ice (scratch that) hardpack. When I get out to your high mountains and 'real' snow, it seems to matter little what is on my feet. At Mt Baker, I stop at the Glacier Ski Shop and rent high end Salomons and love them (I've quit lugging my skis across the country). At Tahoe, I rent junk ($9.95 per day) rental slabs and find those quite adequate except when going gets 'firm'. Length? I use 170's most of the time. I have a pair of 159's for spring conditions. For your size and weight, I wouldn't get anything bigger than 165. "Jack O" wrote in message ... I'm looking for advice on skis to demo this year for the kind of skiing that I do. I'm 53 years old and started skiing 5 years ago. I ski about 20 days per year, mostly in Utah - Alta, Snowbird, Brighton & Solitude. I ski with some buddies from my ski club, who are mostly better skiers than I am. I ski almost exclusively on single-black ungroomed runs. While I do encounter some deep snow, I spend a lot of time in tracked bumps with at least some powder component. I skis relatively slowly through the bumps, picking my way, not blasting through them. This is what I like to do. I own a pair of 170cm Rossignol Bandit B1's that I bought when I began skiing 5 years ago, and have been on them since. I would like to buy a new pair of skis this year that will enhance my experience in this type of snow, and perhaps help me to advance a bit. Can you suggest some skis that I might demo on my first trip out this year? Something like a K2 Apache Xplorer seems to fit in some ways - mid-fat and reasonable turn radius, but I have heard that I should be looking at a "softer" ski. Should I be looking more at "front-side" skis because I spend much time in the bumps? What length? Any advice will be appreciated. Thanks, Jack |
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Jack O wrote:
I'm looking for advice on skis to demo this year for the kind of skiing that I do. I ski almost exclusively on single-black ungroomed runs. While I do encounter some deep snow, I spend a lot of time in tracked bumps with at least some powder component. I skis relatively slowly through the bumps, picking my way, not blasting through them. This is what I like to do. You don't go fast or ski on hardpack. So you don't need a stiff ski with lots of edge grip for carving high speed turns on the hard, you want something soft that can be slid around the bumps, crud, and junk and that has floatation for the powder. Look at the K2 XPlorer, the Volkl Gotama, the Dynastar Mythic Rider along with a newer version of the Rossi Bandit. You should also demo a couple of twin-tips like the Dynastar Trouble Maker or Salomon TenEighty. The important thing is Demo demo demo. It's your opinion that matters, not anybody else's. //Walt |
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VtSkier wrote:
Length? I use 170's most of the time. I have a pair of 159's for spring conditions. For your size and weight, I wouldn't get anything bigger than 165. Heh |
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lal_truckee wrote:
VtSkier wrote: Length? I use 170's most of the time. I have a pair of 159's for spring conditions. For your size and weight, I wouldn't get anything bigger than 165. Heh retro |
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VtSkier wrote:
I own and heart my Metrons completely. However the 'flavor' Metrons I have are M11-B5 from two years ago. These are heavy (the worst part is carrying them to the lift) and some say unforgiving. I tend to go for skis which are stiff. This is probably due to my size and weight. I'm 6' tall and weigh 215 and am 66 years old(quiet Horvie). I ski the cascades and also find that stiff, heavy and short skis like the K2 recon are a good compromise. On powder days, everything is so easy that I seem to forget about the skis -- until I have to schlep them to the car, that is. Stuart wrote: Can you suggest some skis that I might demo on my first trip out this year? Something like a K2 Apache Xplorer seems to fit in some ways - mid-fat and reasonable turn radius, but I have heard that I should be looking at a "softer" ski. The recons bend well enough in the bumps. I find soft skis intolerable when the snow warms up a bit. But don't listen to me. Keep your Bandits until demo day and try everything for yourself. -- Mike Treseler |
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Thank you all for your thoughts. I think I have an idea now of what
to try out. December in the Cottonwood Canyons isn't that far away... Jack On Tues, 28 Jul 2009 21:01:07 -0400, Jack O wrote: I'm looking for advice on skis to demo this year for the kind of skiing that I do. I'm 53 years old and started skiing 5 years ago. I ski about 20 days per year, mostly in Utah - Alta, Snowbird, Brighton & Solitude. I ski with some buddies from my ski club, who are mostly better skiers than I am. I ski almost exclusively on single-black ungroomed runs. While I do encounter some deep snow, I spend a lot of time in tracked bumps with at least some powder component. I skis relatively slowly through the bumps, picking my way, not blasting through them. This is what I like to do. I own a pair of 170cm Rossignol Bandit B1's that I bought when I began skiing 5 years ago, and have been on them since. I would like to buy a new pair of skis this year that will enhance my experience in this type of snow, and perhaps help me to advance a bit. Can you suggest some skis that I might demo on my first trip out this year? Something like a K2 Apache Xplorer seems to fit in some ways - mid-fat and reasonable turn radius, but I have heard that I should be looking at a "softer" ski. Should I be looking more at "front-side" skis because I spend much time in the bumps? What length? Any advice will be appreciated. Thanks, Jack |
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I have the M3 168 cm. Not too heavy. I did have Salomon EWquipe GS but was
very disappointed in their logevity. I treated them nicely and one went dead at two seasons. The Volkyl line of all mountain skis are also excellent but pricey. I laso liked my old crud cutters the Volant Epic T6 but the top cover blew off. "VtSkier" wrote in message ... Stuart wrote: I am 55 185 lbs been skiing 50 yrs. I really prefer an all mountain ski for the kind of skiing you describe. Rossignol are good. My favorite bar none Atomic Metrons..easy turing pretty good in the slow bumps and good in powder also. And do they carve carve carve....at medium speeds, a real treat and easy.... Be careful. I own and heart my Metrons completely. However the 'flavor' Metrons I have are M11-B5 from two years ago. These are heavy (the worst part is carrying them to the lift) and some say unforgiving. I tend to go for skis which are stiff. This is probably due to my size and weight. I'm 6' tall and weigh 215 and am 66 years old(quiet Horvie). A few years ago I had Volkl 6 Stars and thought they were wimpy when others thought they were a handful. Metrons are a full line of All Mountain Skis. You will probably like some of them and dislike others. There are other skis which are outstanding and will do nicely what you desire. Salomon X-wing line comes to mind. Now, I occasionally (not nearly enough) ski your western mountains. By my handle, you can see I generally ski eastern ice (scratch that) hardpack. When I get out to your high mountains and 'real' snow, it seems to matter little what is on my feet. At Mt Baker, I stop at the Glacier Ski Shop and rent high end Salomons and love them (I've quit lugging my skis across the country). At Tahoe, I rent junk ($9.95 per day) rental slabs and find those quite adequate except when going gets 'firm'. Length? I use 170's most of the time. I have a pair of 159's for spring conditions. For your size and weight, I wouldn't get anything bigger than 165. "Jack O" wrote in message ... I'm looking for advice on skis to demo this year for the kind of skiing that I do. I'm 53 years old and started skiing 5 years ago. I ski about 20 days per year, mostly in Utah - Alta, Snowbird, Brighton & Solitude. I ski with some buddies from my ski club, who are mostly better skiers than I am. I ski almost exclusively on single-black ungroomed runs. While I do encounter some deep snow, I spend a lot of time in tracked bumps with at least some powder component. I skis relatively slowly through the bumps, picking my way, not blasting through them. This is what I like to do. I own a pair of 170cm Rossignol Bandit B1's that I bought when I began skiing 5 years ago, and have been on them since. I would like to buy a new pair of skis this year that will enhance my experience in this type of snow, and perhaps help me to advance a bit. Can you suggest some skis that I might demo on my first trip out this year? Something like a K2 Apache Xplorer seems to fit in some ways - mid-fat and reasonable turn radius, but I have heard that I should be looking at a "softer" ski. Should I be looking more at "front-side" skis because I spend much time in the bumps? What length? Any advice will be appreciated. Thanks, Jack |
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