Checkerplay - safe or bold?

GNU Backgammon Position ID: ZN+CAVBsnuAHAA
Match ID : QQmvAAAAEAAA
+13-14-15-16-17-18------19-20-21-22-23-24-+ O: O (Cube: 2)
| X O O | O | O O O | 0 points
| X O | | O O |
| X | | O |
| X | | O |
| 6 | | O |
v| |BAR| | 5 point match
| | | |
| | | X |
| | | X |
| O | | X X X | Rolled 63
| O X | | X X X O | 2 points
+12-11-10--9--8--7-------6--5--4--3--2--1-+ X: X

X can play it safe with 13/4 or he can mix it up a bit by bringing down
two checkers, or maybe there's something else. What's your play and why?

//Walt

On Nov 3, 3:21*pm, Walt wrote:
*GNU Backgammon *Position ID: ZN+CAVBsnuAHAA
* * * * * * * * *Match ID * : QQmvAAAAEAAA
*+13-14-15-16-17-18------19-20-21-22-23-24-+ * * O: O (Cube: 2)
*| X * * * * * O *O | O | O *O * * O * * * | * * 0 points
*| X * * * * * * *O | * | O *O * * * * * * |
*| X * * * * * * * *| * | O * * * * * * * *|
*| X * * * * * * * *| * | O * * * * * * * *|
*| 6 * * * * * * * *| * | O * * * * * * * *|
v| * * * * * * * * *|BAR| * * * * * * * * *| * * 5 point match
*| * * * * * * * * *| * | * * * * * * * * *|
*| * * * * * * * * *| * | X * * * * * * * *|
*| * * * * * * * * *| * | X * * * * * * * *|
*| O * * * * * * * *| * | X * * X *X * * * | * * Rolled 63
*| O * * * * * X * *| * | X * * X *X * * O | * * 2 points
*+12-11-10--9--8--7-------6--5--4--3--2--1-+ * * X: X

X can play it safe with 13/4 or he can mix it up a bit by bringing down
two checkers, or maybe there's something else. *What's your play and why?

//Walt

X is ahead in points, ahead in pips, better position. Risk some of it
for many possible block combinations and the chance of gammon with
13-7, 6-3. The risk is O rolling 16, 26, 56, 52, or 53 (30%).

On 03/11/2010 23:21, Walt wrote:

GNU Backgammon Position ID: ZN+CAVBsnuAHAA
Match ID : QQmvAAAAEAAA
+13-14-15-16-17-18------19-20-21-22-23-24-+ O: O (Cube: 2)
| X O O | O | O O O | 0 points
| X O | | O O |
| X | | O |
| X | | O |
| 6 | | O |
v| |BAR| | 5 point match
| | | |
| | | X |
| | | X |
| O | | X X X | Rolled 63
| O X | | X X X O | 2 points
+12-11-10--9--8--7-------6--5--4--3--2--1-+ X: X

X can play it safe with 13/4 or he can mix it up a bit by bringing down
two checkers, or maybe there's something else. What's your play and why?

//Walt
If I've read it right X's home table is bottom right and O has one
checker on the bar ???

If so, my play would be one checker from 6 to 4 and one from 13 to 7.
X is well ahead imo and should play safe, both moves make "spare" pieces
available to cover another point in the home table, the only risk being
that if O then throws a 6 and either 1,2 or 5 then they can hit 7, but
the O home table isn't very strong so should be easy to get back on...

On 04/11/2010 08:51, Richard Henry wrote:
On Nov 3, 3:21 pm, wrote:
GNU Backgammon Position ID: ZN+CAVBsnuAHAA
Match ID : QQmvAAAAEAAA
+13-14-15-16-17-18------19-20-21-22-23-24-+ O: O (Cube: 2)
| X O O | O | O O O | 0 points
| X O | | O O |
| X | | O |
| X | | O |
| 6 | | O |
v| |BAR| | 5 point match
| | | |
| | | X |
| | | X |
| O | | X X X | Rolled 63
| O X | | X X X O | 2 points
+12-11-10--9--8--7-------6--5--4--3--2--1-+ X: X

X can play it safe with 13/4 or he can mix it up a bit by bringing down
two checkers, or maybe there's something else. What's your play and why?

//Walt

X is ahead in points, ahead in pips, better position. Risk some of it
for many possible block combinations and the chance of gammon with
13-7, 6-3. The risk is O rolling 16, 26, 56, 52, or 53 (30%).

Goood analysis ! I meant 6-3 rather than 6-4 and forgot 52 and 53. We
should play sometime

On Nov 4, 9:25*am, BrritSki wrote:
On 04/11/2010 08:51, Richard Henry wrote:



On Nov 3, 3:21 pm, *wrote:
* GNU Backgammon *Position ID: ZN+CAVBsnuAHAA
* * * * * * * * * Match ID * : QQmvAAAAEAAA
* +13-14-15-16-17-18------19-20-21-22-23-24-+ * * O: O (Cube: 2)
* | X * * * * * O *O | O | O *O * * O * * * | * * 0 points
* | X * * * * * * *O | * | O *O * * * * * * |
* | X * * * * * * * *| * | O * * * * * * * *|
* | X * * * * * * * *| * | O * * * * * * * *|
* | 6 * * * * * * * *| * | O * * * * * * * *|
v| * * * * * * * * *|BAR| * * * * * * * * *| * * 5 point match
* | * * * * * * * * *| * | * * * * * * * * *|
* | * * * * * * * * *| * | X * * * * * * * *|
* | * * * * * * * * *| * | X * * * * * * * *|
* | O * * * * * * * *| * | X * * X *X * * * | * * Rolled 63
* | O * * * * * X * *| * | X * * X *X * * O | * * 2 points
* +12-11-10--9--8--7-------6--5--4--3--2--1-+ * * X: X

X can play it safe with 13/4 or he can mix it up a bit by bringing down
two checkers, or maybe there's something else. *What's your play and why?

//Walt

X is ahead in points, ahead in pips, better position. *Risk some of it
for many possible block combinations and the chance of gammon with
13-7, 6-3. *The risk is O rolling 16, 26, 56, 52, or 53 (30%).

Goood analysis ! *I meant 6-3 rather than 6-4 and forgot 52 and 53. We
should play sometime *

53 is a risk even after the "safe" play.

My style is to build a wall and block out one or two shooting for
gammons.

But, then again, I have never played for money.

On 11/4/2010 12:25 PM, BrritSki wrote:
On 04/11/2010 08:51, Richard Henry wrote:
On Nov 3, 3:21 pm, wrote:
GNU Backgammon Position ID: ZN+CAVBsnuAHAA
Match ID : QQmvAAAAEAAA
+13-14-15-16-17-18------19-20-21-22-23-24-+ O: O (Cube: 2)
| X O O | O | O O O | 0 points
| X O | | O O |
| X | | O |
| X | | O |
| 6 | | O |
v| |BAR| | 5 point match
| | | |
| | | X |
| | | X |
| O | | X X X | Rolled 63
| O X | | X X X O | 2 points
+12-11-10--9--8--7-------6--5--4--3--2--1-+ X: X

X can play it safe with 13/4 or he can mix it up a bit by bringing down
two checkers, or maybe there's something else. What's your play and
why?

X is ahead in points, ahead in pips, better position. Risk some of it
for many possible block combinations and the chance of gammon with
13-7, 6-3. The risk is O rolling 16, 26, 56, 52, or 53 (30%).

Goood analysis ! I meant 6-3 rather than 6-4 and forgot 52 and 53. We
should play sometime


Well, this problem was intended for rec.games.backgammon, not
rec.skiing.alpine - I posted it here by accident. Point your newsreader
over there for more analysis and the computer's answer (coming in a day
or so).

As for playing, I'm on FIBS occasionally - email me for more info.

//Walt

On Nov 4, 11:20*am, Walt wrote:
On 11/4/2010 12:25 PM, BrritSki wrote:



On 04/11/2010 08:51, Richard Henry wrote:
On Nov 3, 3:21 pm, *wrote:
* GNU Backgammon *Position ID: ZN+CAVBsnuAHAA
* * * * * * * * * Match ID * : QQmvAAAAEAAA
* +13-14-15-16-17-18------19-20-21-22-23-24-+ * * O: O (Cube: 2)
* | X * * * * * O *O | O | O *O * * O * * * | * * 0 points
* | X * * * * * * *O | * | O *O * * * * * * |
* | X * * * * * * * *| * | O * * * * * * * *|
* | X * * * * * * * *| * | O * * * * * * * *|
* | 6 * * * * * * * *| * | O * * * * * * * *|
v| * * * * * * * * *|BAR| * * * * * * * * *| * * 5 point match
* | * * * * * * * * *| * | * * * * * * * * *|
* | * * * * * * * * *| * | X * * * * * * * *|
* | * * * * * * * * *| * | X * * * * * * * *|
* | O * * * * * * * *| * | X * * X *X * * * | * * Rolled 63
* | O * * * * * X * *| * | X * * X *X * * O | * * 2 points
* +12-11-10--9--8--7-------6--5--4--3--2--1-+ * * X: X

X can play it safe with 13/4 or he can mix it up a bit by bringing down
two checkers, or maybe there's something else. *What's your play and
why?
X is ahead in points, ahead in pips, better position. *Risk some of it
for many possible block combinations and the chance of gammon with
13-7, 6-3. *The risk is O rolling 16, 26, 56, 52, or 53 (30%).

Goood analysis ! *I meant 6-3 rather than 6-4 and forgot 52 and 53. We
should play sometime *

Well, this problem was intended for rec.games.backgammon, not
rec.skiing.alpine - I posted it here by accident. *Point your newsreader
over there for more analysis and the computer's answer (coming in a day
or so).

As for playing, I'm on FIBS occasionally - email me for more info.

//Walt

I play the "MSN Internet Backgammon Server" most days from this
computer (Windows XP). Those are all 3-point games with anonymous
opponents.

On 04/11/2010 19:16, Richard Henry wrote:
On Nov 4, 9:25 am, wrote:
On 04/11/2010 08:51, Richard Henry wrote:



On Nov 3, 3:21 pm, wrote:
GNU Backgammon Position ID: ZN+CAVBsnuAHAA
Match ID : QQmvAAAAEAAA
+13-14-15-16-17-18------19-20-21-22-23-24-+ O: O (Cube: 2)
| X O O | O | O O O | 0 points
| X O | | O O |
| X | | O |
| X | | O |
| 6 | | O |
v| |BAR| | 5 point match
| | | |
| | | X |
| | | X |
| O | | X X X | Rolled 63
| O X | | X X X O | 2 points
+12-11-10--9--8--7-------6--5--4--3--2--1-+ X: X

X can play it safe with 13/4 or he can mix it up a bit by bringing down
two checkers, or maybe there's something else. What's your play and why?

//Walt

X is ahead in points, ahead in pips, better position. Risk some of it
for many possible block combinations and the chance of gammon with
13-7, 6-3. The risk is O rolling 16, 26, 56, 52, or 53 (30%).

Goood analysis ! I meant 6-3 rather than 6-4 and forgot 52 and 53. We
should play sometime

53 is a risk even after the "safe" play.

My style is to build a wall and block out one or two shooting for
gammons.

A good approach

But, then again, I have never played for money.

A friend and I played a lot for a couple of years for a penny a point
and I nearly always won over the course of a couple of hours. We stopped
playing after he threw the board up in the air and scattered pieces all
over the pub after another loss

On 11/5/2010 5:07 AM, BrritSki wrote:
On 04/11/2010 19:16, Richard Henry wrote:
On Nov 4, 9:25 am, wrote:

But, then again, I have never played for money.

A friend and I played a lot for a couple of years for a penny a point
and I nearly always won over the course of a couple of hours. We stopped
playing after he threw the board up in the air and scattered pieces all
over the pub after another loss

I don't play for money either. Match play is much more complicated and
interesting.

On 05/11/2010 14:42, Walt wrote:
On 11/5/2010 5:07 AM, BrritSki wrote:
On 04/11/2010 19:16, Richard Henry wrote:
On Nov 4, 9:25 am, wrote:

But, then again, I have never played for money.

A friend and I played a lot for a couple of years for a penny a point
and I nearly always won over the course of a couple of hours. We stopped
playing after he threw the board up in the air and scattered pieces all
over the pub after another loss

I don't play for money either. Match play is much more complicated and
interesting.



I don't know how match play works, but backgammon without the doubling
cube and a small stake is boring, as I know when I play waife or kids...