Can Snowboarders and skiiers be friends?

How many of you ride with a friend who skis?

Occasionally I see a boarder and skiier together and with my son ready to
switch to boarding (mostly at my suggestion) I wonder if he really needs to;
I was thinking that he'd get bored on skis if he went with a boarding friend
who spent most of their time at the terrain parks instead of on the
trails/runs.

Bryan wrote:
How many of you ride with a friend who skis?

Occasionally I see a boarder and skiier together and with my son ready to
switch to boarding (mostly at my suggestion) I wonder if he really needs to;
I was thinking that he'd get bored on skis if he went with a boarding friend
who spent most of their time at the terrain parks instead of on the
trails/runs.




i ride with a skier. We usually race for fun down the mountain. It's no
big deal if the two are into the same kind of terrain.

Bryan wrote:

How many of you ride with a friend who skis?

Occasionally I see a boarder and skiier together and with my son ready to
switch to boarding (mostly at my suggestion) I wonder if he really needs to;
I was thinking that he'd get bored on skis if he went with a boarding friend
who spent most of their time at the terrain parks instead of on the
trails/runs.

Now and then I ride with a friend who boards (I'm a skier). Then again,
she doesn't make a habit of sitting down in the middle of runs

I tend to like boarders, they often have what I consider a good, and not
snotty, attitude.

Lisa

Lisa Horton wrote:

Bryan wrote:

How many of you ride with a friend who skis?

Occasionally I see a boarder and skiier together and with my son ready to
switch to boarding (mostly at my suggestion) I wonder if he really needs to;
I was thinking that he'd get bored on skis if he went with a boarding friend
who spent most of their time at the terrain parks instead of on the
trails/runs.


Now and then I ride with a friend who boards (I'm a skier). Then again,
she doesn't make a habit of sitting down in the middle of runs

I tend to like boarders, they often have what I consider a good, and not
snotty, attitude.

Lisa

My two mountain buddies are both skiers. Actually, it has been good for
me that they are quite advanced skiers in that they push me to the
limit. As far as I'm concerned, it doesn't matter what you ride down
the mountain as long as you aren't being a dick to others.

Rick

"Lisa Horton" wrote in message
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Bryan wrote:

How many of you ride with a friend who skis?

Occasionally I see a boarder and skiier together and with my son ready to
switch to boarding (mostly at my suggestion) I wonder if he really needs
to;
I was thinking that he'd get bored on skis if he went with a boarding
friend
who spent most of their time at the terrain parks instead of on the
trails/runs.

Now and then I ride with a friend who boards (I'm a skier). Then again,
she doesn't make a habit of sitting down in the middle of runs

I tend to like boarders, they often have what I consider a good, and not
snotty, attitude.

Lisa

Interesting. I had a girlfriend when I was young who didn't care that her
dormmate was a smoker on the idea that smokers wouldn't be bothered by her
sloppy living. I guess smokers aren't snotty. And why do boarders sit down
in the middle of runs?

Bryan wrote:
And why do boarders sit down in the middle of runs?

There are two questions: Why do they sit? Why do they sit in the middle
of runs?

After great consideration I've concluded that the answer is: Because
they can and standing still on a board is very difficult. Sitting with
skis probably isn't realistic which is why some skiers stand in the
middle of runs.

If you want to know why they sit in the middle of runs to socialize
rather than sitting on a side, that's probably because they are young
and aren't thinking. I don't see older boarders sitting in the middle of
runs. We go to the edge to sit and sooth our aching legs and wobbly
knees or to admire the view. I've had to tell kids at the top of hills,
"Guys, I have nowhere to go except over you to get down the hill." They
move. I say, "Thank you." Their parents aren't there to instruct them,
and a group of 13 year olds aren't going to make the greatest decisions
by themselves.

This winter I was going down a local expert hill. Unlike most of the
kids, I was not sideslipping down the hill. A group of young teens was
sitting in the middle. One looked back and saw me coming right at him.
There was plenty of time and room for me to go around, which is what I
did, but his eyes got wide and he quickly shuffled to one side.

Another time a young skier decided to stop and turn sideways. I had just
started a turn that would have taken me over her skis after she turned,
and I could not turn in a different direction quickly enough. Eleven
inches of new snow was on the ground, so I just dropped on my butt and
came to a soft and immediate stop to avoid a collision.

Another time three teen girl skiers two chairs in front of my chair got
off. One fell. One stood by and watched right in the exit path while the
other tried to help the fallen girl up. The one helping threw her poles
down in the only place left to exit the chair. I barely missed running
over the poles. I told her to move them and she could not comprehend
why. I told her they were blocking the exit and her response was, "But
I'm helping my friend get up." She never considered placing the poles
behind her so they'd be out of the way.

The common element is "young" and "inexperienced". Vans pull into the
resorts, kids get out, and the vans leave. The ski patrol is not a
substitute for parental supervision and training.

Dean

Dean wrote:
Bryan wrote:
And why do boarders sit down in the middle of runs?

There are two questions: Why do they sit? Why do they sit in the
middle
of runs?

After great consideration I've concluded that the answer is: Because
they can and standing still on a board is very difficult. Sitting
with
skis probably isn't realistic which is why some skiers stand in the
middle of runs.

If you want to know why they sit in the middle of runs to socialize
rather than sitting on a side, that's probably because they are young
and aren't thinking. The common element is "young" and
"inexperienced". Vans pull into the
resorts, kids get out, and the vans leave. The ski patrol is not a
substitute for parental supervision and training.

Dean

I agree with Dean here on the main points. First it is extremely
difficult to stand still on a slope. Second snowboard in general is
more physically demanding becuase the rider must use constant energy
just to maintain their balance (like when standing still on a slope)
where as a skiier can easily keep their body upright will minimal
effort.

As I mentioned in my other posts, most of the things people attribute
to snowboarders really should be attributed to young/inexperienced
riders who don't know better. They are simply unconscious of the world
and other people around them until someone tells them "hey we should
sit to the side of the trail away from the drops so someone doesn't
crash into us."

I should mention that this is only a "generalization" about youth AND
that plenty of adults fail to obey proper mountain etiquette as well.
Actually "park-inexperienced" adults tend to ignore proper park/pipe
etiquette more than younger skiiers/riders (there are 3 basic rules)
but that's another story.

"lonerider" wrote in message ups.com...
Actually "park-inexperienced" adults tend to ignore proper park/pipe
etiquette more than younger skiiers/riders (there are 3 basic rules)
but that's another story.

Doesn't matter. What are the basic rules?

"Dean" wrote in message ...
Bryan wrote:
And why do boarders sit down in the middle of runs?

There are two questions: Why do they sit? Why do they sit in the middle
of runs?

After great consideration I've concluded that the answer is: Because
they can and standing still on a board is very difficult. Sitting with
skis probably isn't realistic which is why some skiers stand in the
middle of runs.

If you want to know why they sit in the middle of runs to socialize
rather than sitting on a side, that's probably because they are young
and aren't thinking. I don't see older boarders sitting in the middle of
runs. We go to the edge to sit and sooth our aching legs and wobbly
knees or to admire the view. I've had to tell kids at the top of hills,

The common element is "young" and "inexperienced". Vans pull into the
resorts, kids get out, and the vans leave. The ski patrol is not a
substitute for parental supervision and training.

Dean

Nice answer!

On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 07:24:03 GMT, "Bryan"
wrote:


"Dean" wrote in message ...
Bryan wrote:
And why do boarders sit down in the middle of runs?

There are two questions: Why do they sit? Why do they sit in the middle
of runs?

After great consideration I've concluded that the answer is: Because
they can and standing still on a board is very difficult. Sitting with
skis probably isn't realistic which is why some skiers stand in the
middle of runs.

If you want to know why they sit in the middle of runs to socialize
rather than sitting on a side, that's probably because they are young
and aren't thinking. I don't see older boarders sitting in the middle of
runs. We go to the edge to sit and sooth our aching legs and wobbly
knees or to admire the view. I've had to tell kids at the top of hills,


I board, I ski. I learnt skiing first, I learnt boarding afterwards. I
always do a bit of both when I go away. I kinda feel I can be
subjective on this.

IME snowboards don't sit in the middle any more than skiers stand in
the middle. However, the skiers 'tut' because they somehow see
something more lazy about them sitting rather than standing. Boarders
*have* to sit down to stay still when on anything like an incline
because they don't have poles and cannot balance on one edge. IME most
skiers who have never boarded do not appreciate this and get all het
up about nothing. It'd be like asking a skier to hold their position
on a slope whilst facing down in a snow plough position and with no
poles - let's see how long you can hold that before the lactic builds
in your thighs!

Experienced boarders try to come to a stop so as to build up a little
snow under their board as a kind of perch to rest on - but it rarely
works and depends largely on the conditions as to whether it's
possible.


andyt