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Does Combi skiing work very well?
My bro often puts kickwax on his skate skis so he can both skate and
kick on our often narrow homestyle trails around here. His method seems to work fairly OK. But he often flounders on uphills. Still, he can get in some kick-DP when it gets too narrow to skate. I'm wondering if actual Combi skis would work better. Or maybe classic skis with just a little kick wax work better as skate skis than skaters work as classic (no wax pocket?). Any tricks? Reports? Thanks, JP |
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Does Combi skiing work very well?
My thinking is that a classic ski skates better than a skate ski works for
classic. I doubt that there are any good combi skis these days. At least I haven't heard of any. Years ago I and many other skiers used a Peltonen Combi ski that was gray and blue. I did a bunch of marathons with them and thought that they were good even if the base wasn't the most porous. I think that these were popular with Ski-O folks too. I look forward to following this thread as I'd be interested in a good combi ski. Gary Jacobson Rosendale, NY where we've had two days of snow totaling .25 inches. wrote in message oups.com... My bro often puts kickwax on his skate skis so he can both skate and kick on our often narrow homestyle trails around here. His method seems to work fairly OK. But he often flounders on uphills. Still, he can get in some kick-DP when it gets too narrow to skate. I'm wondering if actual Combi skis would work better. Or maybe classic skis with just a little kick wax work better as skate skis than skaters work as classic (no wax pocket?). Any tricks? Reports? Thanks, JP |
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Does Combi skiing work very well?
Gary Jacobson wrote: I doubt that there are any good combi skis these days. At least I haven't heard of any. Same here. Years ago I and many other skiers used a Peltonen Combi ski that was gray and blue. I did a bunch of marathons with them and thought that they were good even if the base wasn't the most porous. I think that these were popular with Ski-O folks too. Are you referring to the old Peltonen Quasar combi ski? We somehow stumbled onto these up at High Peaks in Lake Placid and found them to be quite useful for some ski-O meets. I had a pair of the gray ones and then replaced them with the newer yellow ones, which are still in my rock ski collection. Probably going to use them tomorrow in fact. I remember one particularly strange race where I took 2nd place in the NY State Ski-O Champs on these skis. There was a big dump of snow the night before the race and no grooming. However the park roads running up the middle of the area were plowed but still covered with hard snow, so quite skatable. It was a beautiful blue hard-wax day, so I waxed up the kick section with several layers of swix extra blue and headed for the start. At the gun the pack sprinted down the road in an all-out skate for a mile or so until turning left onto the first untracked trail. I was just barely hanging onto the rear of the lead pack. Into the woods for the first couple of controls and then a long leg to another section of the map for #3. I didn't like the way the leaders went on that one, looked like many fewer contour lines to climb by taking a different route that crossed the road earlier. So I cut off by myself across the road and had to break trail by myself all the way to the control. But I still managed to get there first by a couple minutes! It was a long course that day and eventually 2 of the leaders from the pack caught me back up. The 3 of us duked it out for quite a while until one made a tactical error and left the other 2 of us to sprint it out for the win. That was a really fun race and the combi skis were just about perfect for the deep, soft snow, where a high wax pocket just makes it that much harder to get a good classic kick. That said, it's actually rare these days to race ski-O like that. Most days you just make up your mind before you go out whether you're going to ski classic or skate/DP and stick with you choice. The choice is mostly determined by terrain, snow/grooming/trail conditions, fitness level, and your confidence (or lack thereof) in your ability to climb hills without kick wax, regardless of track width. -Mitch |
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Does Combi skiing work very well?
The answer to your question,,,,,,,,,,,is NO,,,,,,,combi skis do not
work,,that is why nobody sells them anymore. If you are going to do classic, and skate,,you are better off investing in a pair for classic,,,,,,,,,,,and a pair for skate, The reason your brother flounders up the hill,,,,is the kick wax he put on his skate skis, is holding back his glide, if not stopping it all together,,,,,,,,,,,,, |
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Does Combi skiing work very well?
Jeff, back in the stone ages before I actually had skate skis and we
both posted on r.b.r as active riders, I occasionally would try to do both by just putting kick wax on the outside flat of my 'classic' skis (no diff anyhow). I wouldn't say it worked great, but it would suffice for hacking around the golf course. Striding yesterday, I was demoing skate for a couple of friends on my classic skis. If your wax isn't too thick, it works OK. Not as good as a skate ski, but a whole lot better glide than a skate ski w/kickwax. Besides, do you really want to scuff up the base on a skate ski enough to hold wax? Marsh wrote: My bro often puts kickwax on his skate skis so he can both skate and kick on our often narrow homestyle trails around here. His method seems to work fairly OK. But he often flounders on uphills. Still, he can get in some kick-DP when it gets too narrow to skate. I'm wondering if actual Combi skis would work better. Or maybe classic skis with just a little kick wax work better as skate skis than skaters work as classic (no wax pocket?). Any tricks? Reports? Thanks, JP |
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Does Combi skiing work very well?
Anyone remember the Kneissel ski that had an internal cable that you could adjust ski camber with by fiddling with cable tension? This was pre- skate, but it might have made a good combi ski. That ski was paired with Trek spring loaded poles. You know- energy return theory (or should I say farce). Gary Jacobson Rosendale, NY "Marsh Jones" wrote in message . .. Jeff, back in the stone ages before I actually had skate skis and we both posted on r.b.r as active riders, I occasionally would try to do both by just putting kick wax on the outside flat of my 'classic' skis (no diff anyhow). I wouldn't say it worked great, but it would suffice for hacking around the golf course. Striding yesterday, I was demoing skate for a couple of friends on my classic skis. If your wax isn't too thick, it works OK. Not as good as a skate ski, but a whole lot better glide than a skate ski w/kickwax. Besides, do you really want to scuff up the base on a skate ski enough to hold wax? Marsh wrote: My bro often puts kickwax on his skate skis so he can both skate and kick on our often narrow homestyle trails around here. His method seems to work fairly OK. But he often flounders on uphills. Still, he can get in some kick-DP when it gets too narrow to skate. I'm wondering if actual Combi skis would work better. Or maybe classic skis with just a little kick wax work better as skate skis than skaters work as classic (no wax pocket?). Any tricks? Reports? Thanks, JP |
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