Carbon Pro boot question

This is my second season on Carbon Pro Boots. Last year, boots worked
fine; laces never loosened, no hot spots, etc. Thought they were the
best. This season, I have been suffereing with multiple problems, so
many I want to throw them into the Great Salt Lake. I have listed the
issues below.

1. The left boot now has a spot on the outside of the ankle, at the
bony prominence, they gets serious pressure. Skating for longer than 30
minutes leads to a huge bruise and the site is tender for days
afterward. The point is at the plastic "rivot" on the outside of the
boot. I have tried adjusting the heel velcro to change the pressure
point to no avail. I have also changed my insoles to change the height
of my foot relative to the "rivot", to no avail. The only thing that
helps is keeping the laces loose, which doesn't really work when
skating.

2. Is the lace tab supposed to rolled forward onto the laces or back
onto the material after the laces are tightened? When I move it
forward, the laces stay tight but I get horrible pressure from the
plastic lock on the top of my foot when I flex my ankle. If I leave it
back, the laces loosen up in about 5 minutes and this goes on for an
entire workout (tighten/loosen, and so on; helps with the ankle pain,
though).

3. With significant ankle flex, the plastic tongue digs into the top on
my foot. could this be a problem with trying to keep my boots laced too
tightly? Could all of these problems be from keeping the boots too
tightly laced?

I appreciate any help on this. I I donated my old skate boots this fall
based on last winter's experience with the Carbon Pro and now I am
beginning to regret it. With 4 marathons coming up, I'm hoping to not
have to solve this problem by getting new boots.

Dan Vargo
SLC, UT

I too have noticed that the lace lock can squeeze the instep of my
foot. This was not the case with the RS9.

I have found that the pressure point has been alleviated by moving the
lace lock to one side or the other. Perhaps this will help with your
other problem of self loosening lases. Hopefully then you can leave it
loose enough to alleviate the plastic pressure, and tight enough for
performance.

I had a problem like this with a pair of RS 9's a couple years ago
(which is why I got Carbons which don't have this problem for me). As
a temporary fix, I used a small piece of blue foam from an old
sleeping pad (about 1/2 an inch thick). I cut out a donut about 2" in
diameter with a 1" hole in the middle. Slide this inside your sock on
the outside so the bony prominence is in the donut hole. This should
relieve the pressure, it worked for me.

But, one shouldn't need such things ... so I went in search of new boots.

Brian

In article , Daniel Vargo wrote:
1. The left boot now has a spot on the outside of the ankle, at the
bony prominence, they gets serious pressure. Skating for longer than 30
minutes leads to a huge bruise and the site is tender for days
afterward. The point is at the plastic "rivot" on the outside of the
boot. I have tried adjusting the heel velcro to change the pressure
point to no avail. I have also changed my insoles to change the height
of my foot relative to the "rivot", to no avail. The only thing that
helps is keeping the laces loose, which doesn't really work when
skating.

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Hi Dan-
And then I said "hmmm..."
I'm wondering from your post if there's a problem with the Carbon Pro's having padding/lining that wears out and gets compressed faster than happened with the black/yellow boots, or with other boots. This particularly sounds like what's happening with the ankle issue. As a "fix" for that, you might try putting some mole-foam on the spot on your ankle that rubs, and if that works, put the mole foam in the boot. I've had pretty good luck with that with both the bumblebee boots (they fit me horribly!) and with tele-boots.
Has anyone else on the list had issues with the Carbon boot liners wearing out or compressing?

as far as the laces, over-tightening, etc, it seems that maybe you are over tightening them. My experience is that the boots fit so tight in the first place that I pretty much do the laces up just to keep them from flopping around. Maybe the boots are too big? (maybe because again, the liners are compressed?)

hmmmm.....

good luck-
Chris

Daniel Vargo wrote:
This is my second season on Carbon Pro Boots. Last year, boots worked
fine; laces never loosened, no hot spots, etc. Thought they were the
best. This season, I have been suffereing with multiple problems, so
many I want to throw them into the Great Salt Lake. I have listed the
issues below.

1. The left boot now has a spot on the outside of the ankle, at the
bony prominence, they gets serious pressure. Skating for longer than 30
minutes leads to a huge bruise and the site is tender for days
afterward. The point is at the plastic "rivot" on the outside of the
boot. I have tried adjusting the heel velcro to change the pressure
point to no avail. I have also changed my insoles to change the height
of my foot relative to the "rivot", to no avail. The only thing that
helps is keeping the laces loose, which doesn't really work when
skating.

2. Is the lace tab supposed to rolled forward onto the laces or back
onto the material after the laces are tightened? When I move it
forward, the laces stay tight but I get horrible pressure from the
plastic lock on the top of my foot when I flex my ankle. If I leave it
back, the laces loosen up in about 5 minutes and this goes on for an
entire workout (tighten/loosen, and so on; helps with the ankle pain,
though).

3. With significant ankle flex, the plastic tongue digs into the top on
my foot. could this be a problem with trying to keep my boots laced too
tightly? Could all of these problems be from keeping the boots too
tightly laced?

I appreciate any help on this. I I donated my old skate boots this fall
based on last winter's experience with the Carbon Pro and now I am
beginning to regret it. With 4 marathons coming up, I'm hoping to not
have to solve this problem by getting new boots.

Dan Vargo
SLC, UT





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Funny. I am having the same issues. First year no problems with laces or
pressure on outside of ankle.This year,number2, lace loosening and ankle
pain. Frontrunner took care of my lace problem.
Fitzgerald
"Daniel Vargo" wrote in message
. ..
This is my second season on Carbon Pro Boots. Last year, boots worked
fine; laces never loosened, no hot spots, etc. Thought they were the
best. This season, I have been suffereing with multiple problems, so
many I want to throw them into the Great Salt Lake. I have listed the
issues below.

1. The left boot now has a spot on the outside of the ankle, at the
bony prominence, they gets serious pressure. Skating for longer than 30
minutes leads to a huge bruise and the site is tender for days
afterward. The point is at the plastic "rivot" on the outside of the
boot. I have tried adjusting the heel velcro to change the pressure
point to no avail. I have also changed my insoles to change the height
of my foot relative to the "rivot", to no avail. The only thing that
helps is keeping the laces loose, which doesn't really work when
skating.

2. Is the lace tab supposed to rolled forward onto the laces or back
onto the material after the laces are tightened? When I move it
forward, the laces stay tight but I get horrible pressure from the
plastic lock on the top of my foot when I flex my ankle. If I leave it
back, the laces loosen up in about 5 minutes and this goes on for an
entire workout (tighten/loosen, and so on; helps with the ankle pain,
though).

3. With significant ankle flex, the plastic tongue digs into the top on
my foot. could this be a problem with trying to keep my boots laced too
tightly? Could all of these problems be from keeping the boots too
tightly laced?

I appreciate any help on this. I I donated my old skate boots this fall
based on last winter's experience with the Carbon Pro and now I am
beginning to regret it. With 4 marathons coming up, I'm hoping to not
have to solve this problem by getting new boots.

Dan Vargo
SLC, UT

In case you didn't see the earlier thread, wrap excess lace around the
laces below the base of the plastic tightening thing-a-mabob (technical
term) after tightening. This will prevent them from loosening up.

The FrontRunner

"FITZGERALD" wrote in message
...
Funny. I am having the same issues. First year no problems with laces or
pressure on outside of ankle.This year,number2, lace loosening and ankle
pain. Frontrunner took care of my lace problem.
Fitzgerald
"Daniel Vargo" wrote in message
. ..
This is my second season on Carbon Pro Boots. Last year, boots worked
fine; laces never loosened, no hot spots, etc. Thought they were the
best. This season, I have been suffereing with multiple problems, so
many I want to throw them into the Great Salt Lake. I have listed the
issues below.

1. The left boot now has a spot on the outside of the ankle, at the
bony prominence, they gets serious pressure. Skating for longer than 30
minutes leads to a huge bruise and the site is tender for days
afterward. The point is at the plastic "rivot" on the outside of the
boot. I have tried adjusting the heel velcro to change the pressure
point to no avail. I have also changed my insoles to change the height
of my foot relative to the "rivot", to no avail. The only thing that
helps is keeping the laces loose, which doesn't really work when
skating.

2. Is the lace tab supposed to rolled forward onto the laces or back
onto the material after the laces are tightened? When I move it
forward, the laces stay tight but I get horrible pressure from the
plastic lock on the top of my foot when I flex my ankle. If I leave it
back, the laces loosen up in about 5 minutes and this goes on for an
entire workout (tighten/loosen, and so on; helps with the ankle pain,
though).

3. With significant ankle flex, the plastic tongue digs into the top on
my foot. could this be a problem with trying to keep my boots laced too
tightly? Could all of these problems be from keeping the boots too
tightly laced?

I appreciate any help on this. I I donated my old skate boots this fall
based on last winter's experience with the Carbon Pro and now I am
beginning to regret it. With 4 marathons coming up, I'm hoping to not
have to solve this problem by getting new boots.

Dan Vargo
SLC, UT