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  #11  
Old September 21st 10, 08:28 PM posted to rec.skiing.resorts.europe,rec.skiing.alpine
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On Sep 21, 1:26*pm, twobuddha wrote:
On Sep 21, 12:22*pm, Ace wrote:





On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 19:37:59 +0100, "Mike"


wrote:
"Mike Clark" wrote in message
c.uk...
In message
but I wouldn't want to spend too much time there for on piste
skiing. Part of the problem is the clientele that the resort attracts. I
spent too long standing in queues surrounded by fur clad, loud speaking,
americans, discussing their recent investments, corporate takeovers,
paychecks, tax bills, filmshoots etc etc.


So, 2 short visits and diss the resort for some encounter with some bankers.


Well, it's more than some people ;-) But yeah, this and BrittSki's
post do seem to be extrtapolating from a little experience.


I'm lucky enough to have not encountered such people, although there are the
usual southern Brit hoorays as in any decent resort,


Not all, but yes, in many of them.


and I've been to
Zermatt loads of times. Good town, good skiing on + off piste and some half
decent improvements over the past few seasons. Queues are long if you choose
them but plenty of alternatives once you know the resort. Klein Matterhorn
glacier area + Cervinia really only need to ski for a day or two,and, if
snow is good, happy to stay on Zermatt local pass. Reasonable hotels do
exist, check out the tourist website and reasonable places to eat (for a top
Swiss resort). Oh, and the scenary IS superb. HTH Mike


It's about as good as it comes, scenery-wise, for sure. The Matterhorn
is probably the most pictured mountain in the world, and the most
picturesque, for that matter.


I have to say I'm not a huge fan of the place, and share some of the
reservations of others. Queues are nothing like as bad as they used to
be, and connections between areas likewise, due to lift system
improvements over the last few years, but for me it's just got too
many people.


But TBH that's probably something it shares with most of the larger
resorts, and having got used to being in Engelberg I'm perhaps less
tolerant of lift queues and crowds than I used to be.


In its favour, Zermatt does have some decent, ski-accessibls
off-piste, but the best stuff (for me) is glacier terrain, much of
which is only really accessible by helicopter, and for that I'd much
rather stay on the Itlaian side, in Gressoney, for example, and enjoy
the 15km of off-piste tracks back there from Cervinia.


I do have a soft spot for the Hotel Julen, though, and have stayed
there a few times, summer, winter and autumn (the latter doing
BASI/BASP 1st aid courses). As an all-year Swiss Mountain Village
destination it's hard to beat.


Excuse me? *Are you so rude as to cross post an actual skiing post to
RSA?
Let us discuss Roger Tilsbury, a pathetic and laughable coward who has
defamed me for years, and lied to the Seattle Police Department over a
stupid newsgroup.
One of the most disgusting and transparent pathological liars I have
ever run across.
Not to mention the fact that he thinks jokes about raping children are
hilarious. *Do you think people should make sick jokes about molesting
children?
Stay the **** out of my newsgroup, or watch yours go into the sewer
too.
Fun, fun. *Asshole.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Repressed memories revisited
I am Scott Barak Abraham's brother. I started to write a long rebuttal
to his story in Backlash ("Repressed Memory Syndrome," The Backlash,
March 1995), but then I stopped. No matter what I say, some will
accept, some will not. But there is a thing that must be said. Scott
Barak Abraham was not, I repeat not, abused within our household.
Since this alleged abuse is one of the pivotal points of the article,
I feel it calls the validity of the whole article into question.
Mr. Abraham was a multiple substance abuser for over twenty years, I
have never used any drugs and haven't had a drink since I was 15 years
old, 27 years ago, and was never drunk even once. I bring this up not
for moral judgment, just for one point. Mr. Abraham poisoned his mind
and body for over twenty years with mind altering drugs and
substances, all of which have been scientifically proven to affect
intelligence, perception and memory.

Finally, as children, up to my 17th birthday Mr. Abraham molested me,
violently abused me almost daily, and to this day uses words of
derision and insult to attack and intimidate me. He denies this. If
nothing else, I remember him doing this, he denies it. He says both of
us were victims of multiple abusers, and I deny that with absolutely
no hesitation or reservation. Since the article says False Memory
Syndrome doesn't exist, he is quite wrong, as apparently one of us is
the victim of said syndrome.

A last thought. Mr. Abraham's behavior is nothing new, it hasn't
changed ever. He threatened and intimidated when he was six, he
threatened and intimidated when he was 15, he threatened and
intimidated when he was 25, he threatens and intimidates when he is
43.

I do not use my name at the request of the publisher.

Editor: Scott changed his name, so he and his brother no longer share
the same last name.
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Old September 21st 10, 08:48 PM posted to rec.skiing.resorts.europe,rec.skiing.alpine
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Hey, Euro assholes?
See what happens when you **** off one of Britski's (Roger Tilsbury)
buddies?
They repeat lies falsely accusing me of being a child molester. While
hiding in anonymity, of course. Sock puppeting a dead man.
Disgusting, isn't it? But it is pretty much the same thing that
Tilsbury did when he lied to AMerican law enforcement about me,
falsely accusing me of threatening him and others, lying to the cops
and committing felony perjury.
Same ****, different day.
I wouldn't be surprised if Tilsbury was the sockpuppet. There truly
is no limit on the vileness this coward is capable of committing.



On Sep 21, 1:28*pm, Mark Spittal wrote:
On Sep 21, 1:26*pm, twobuddha wrote:





On Sep 21, 12:22*pm, Ace wrote:


On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 19:37:59 +0100, "Mike"


wrote:
"Mike Clark" wrote in message
c.uk...
In message
but I wouldn't want to spend too much time there for on piste
skiing. Part of the problem is the clientele that the resort attracts. I
spent too long standing in queues surrounded by fur clad, loud speaking,
americans, discussing their recent investments, corporate takeovers,
paychecks, tax bills, filmshoots etc etc.


So, 2 short visits and diss the resort for some encounter with some bankers.


Well, it's more than some people ;-) But yeah, this and BrittSki's
post do seem to be extrtapolating from a little experience.


I'm lucky enough to have not encountered such people, although there are the
usual southern Brit hoorays as in any decent resort,


Not all, but yes, in many of them.


and I've been to
Zermatt loads of times. Good town, good skiing on + off piste and some half
decent improvements over the past few seasons. Queues are long if you choose
them but plenty of alternatives once you know the resort. Klein Matterhorn
glacier area + Cervinia really only need to ski for a day or two,and, if
snow is good, happy to stay on Zermatt local pass. Reasonable hotels do
exist, check out the tourist website and reasonable places to eat (for a top
Swiss resort). Oh, and the scenary IS superb. HTH Mike


It's about as good as it comes, scenery-wise, for sure. The Matterhorn
is probably the most pictured mountain in the world, and the most
picturesque, for that matter.


I have to say I'm not a huge fan of the place, and share some of the
reservations of others. Queues are nothing like as bad as they used to
be, and connections between areas likewise, due to lift system
improvements over the last few years, but for me it's just got too
many people.


But TBH that's probably something it shares with most of the larger
resorts, and having got used to being in Engelberg I'm perhaps less
tolerant of lift queues and crowds than I used to be.


In its favour, Zermatt does have some decent, ski-accessibls
off-piste, but the best stuff (for me) is glacier terrain, much of
which is only really accessible by helicopter, and for that I'd much
rather stay on the Itlaian side, in Gressoney, for example, and enjoy
the 15km of off-piste tracks back there from Cervinia.


I do have a soft spot for the Hotel Julen, though, and have stayed
there a few times, summer, winter and autumn (the latter doing
BASI/BASP 1st aid courses). As an all-year Swiss Mountain Village
destination it's hard to beat.


Excuse me? *Are you so rude as to cross post an actual skiing post to
RSA?
Let us discuss Roger Tilsbury, a pathetic and laughable coward who has
defamed me for years, and lied to the Seattle Police Department over a
stupid newsgroup.
One of the most disgusting and transparent pathological liars I have
ever run across.
Not to mention the fact that he thinks jokes about raping children are
hilarious. *Do you think people should make sick jokes about molesting
children?
Stay the **** out of my newsgroup, or watch yours go into the sewer
too.
Fun, fun. *Asshole.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Repressed memories revisited
I am Scott Barak Abraham's brother. I started to write a long rebuttal
to his story in Backlash ("Repressed Memory Syndrome," The Backlash,
March 1995), but then I stopped. No matter what I say, some will
accept, some will not. But there is a thing that must be said. Scott
Barak Abraham was not, I repeat not, abused within our household.
Since this alleged abuse is one of the pivotal points of the article,
I feel it calls the validity of the whole article into question.
Mr. Abraham was a multiple substance abuser for over twenty years, I
have never used any drugs and haven't had a drink since I was 15 years
old, 27 years ago, and was never drunk even once. I bring this up not
for moral judgment, just for one point. Mr. Abraham poisoned his mind
and body for over twenty years with mind altering drugs and
substances, all of which have been scientifically proven to affect
intelligence, perception and memory.

Finally, as children, up to my 17th birthday Mr. Abraham molested me,
violently abused me almost daily, and to this day uses words of
derision and insult to attack and intimidate me. He denies this. If
nothing else, I remember him doing this, he denies it. He says both of
us were victims of multiple abusers, and I deny that with absolutely
no hesitation or reservation. Since the article says False Memory
Syndrome doesn't exist, he is quite wrong, as apparently one of us is
the victim of said syndrome.

A last thought. Mr. Abraham's behavior is nothing new, it hasn't
changed ever. He threatened and intimidated when he was six, he
threatened and intimidated when he was 15, he threatened and
intimidated when he was 25, he threatens and intimidates when he is
43.

I do not use my name at the request of the publisher.

Editor: Scott changed his name, so he and his brother no longer share
the same last name.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


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Old September 22nd 10, 07:05 AM posted to rec.skiing.resorts.europe,rec.skiing.alpine
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On 21/09/2010 22:48, twobuddha wrote:

Hey, how did you get out of my killfile - been tossed by another ISP ?

... But it is pretty much the same thing that
Tilsbury did when he lied to AMerican law enforcement about me,
falsely accusing me of threatening him and others, lying to the cops
and committing felony perjury.


No, I didn't do any of those things.

Same ****, different day.
I wouldn't be surprised if Tilsbury was the sockpuppet.


No, I've always posted as BrritSki (apart from a couple of occasions as
jokes) and always linked to my *real* name.

Unlike you, bobaloobob, Al Weinstein.

Don't bother to reply, you're plonked again.
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Old September 22nd 10, 07:11 AM posted to rec.skiing.resorts.europe
BrritSki
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On 21/09/2010 21:22, Ace wrote:
On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 19:37:59 +0100, "Mike"
wrote:

"Mike wrote in message
.uk...
In message7cednTfr3qSrFwvRnZ2dnUVZ7rOdnZ2d@brightvie w.co.uk
but I wouldn't want to spend too much time there for on piste
skiing. Part of the problem is the clientele that the resort attracts. I
spent too long standing in queues surrounded by fur clad, loud speaking,
americans, discussing their recent investments, corporate takeovers,
paychecks, tax bills, filmshoots etc etc.

So, 2 short visits and diss the resort for some encounter with some bankers.


Well, it's more than some people ;-) But yeah, this and BrittSki's
post do seem to be extrtapolating from a little experience.


Hold on, I listed many of the things that were worth it in Z, but if
you're not a great off-piste skier the skiing is NOT that great and the
lift system sucks, even if you do know your way round it. We had a day
with a guide in our week there, and we spent about 20% of the day with
him queuing !

Anyway, it seems that you agree about this aspect in your reply. Ski
there once by all means, and then make your own mind up. I have, and
there are lots of other places I prefer, including Gressoney that you
mention, La Thuile and my own personal favourite Courchevel.

I'm lucky enough to have not encountered such people, although there are the
usual southern Brit hoorays as in any decent resort,


Not all, but yes, in many of them.

and I've been to
Zermatt loads of times. Good town, good skiing on + off piste and some half
decent improvements over the past few seasons. Queues are long if you choose
them but plenty of alternatives once you know the resort. Klein Matterhorn
glacier area + Cervinia really only need to ski for a day or two,and, if
snow is good, happy to stay on Zermatt local pass. Reasonable hotels do
exist, check out the tourist website and reasonable places to eat (for a top
Swiss resort). Oh, and the scenary IS superb. HTH Mike


It's about as good as it comes, scenery-wise, for sure. The Matterhorn
is probably the most pictured mountain in the world, and the most
picturesque, for that matter.

I have to say I'm not a huge fan of the place, and share some of the
reservations of others. Queues are nothing like as bad as they used to
be, and connections between areas likewise, due to lift system
improvements over the last few years, but for me it's just got too
many people.

But TBH that's probably something it shares with most of the larger
resorts, and having got used to being in Engelberg I'm perhaps less
tolerant of lift queues and crowds than I used to be.

In its favour, Zermatt does have some decent, ski-accessibls
off-piste, but the best stuff (for me) is glacier terrain, much of
which is only really accessible by helicopter, and for that I'd much
rather stay on the Itlaian side, in Gressoney, for example, and enjoy
the 15km of off-piste tracks back there from Cervinia.

I do have a soft spot for the Hotel Julen, though, and have stayed
there a few times, summer, winter and autumn (the latter doing
BASI/BASP 1st aid courses). As an all-year Swiss Mountain Village
destination it's hard to beat.


  #15  
Old September 22nd 10, 08:22 AM posted to rec.skiing.resorts.europe
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On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 12:26:58 -0700 (PDT), twobuddha
wrote:

Excuse me? Are you so rude as to cross post an actual skiing post to
RSA?


Christ, Bruce, why the cross-post to RSA (now removed)? I'd forgotten
what an asylum that ran over there...
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  #16  
Old September 22nd 10, 02:57 PM posted to rec.skiing.resorts.europe
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On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 09:22:14 +0100, Champ wrote:

On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 12:26:58 -0700 (PDT), twobuddha
wrote:

Excuse me? Are you so rude as to cross post an actual skiing post to
RSA?


Christ, Bruce, why the cross-post to RSA (now removed)? I'd forgotten
what an asylum that ran over there...


Brittski implied that he'd posted his reply there, so I thought I'd
put mine there too...

Perhaps it was a mistake.
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Old September 22nd 10, 03:04 PM posted to rec.skiing.resorts.europe
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On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 09:11:10 +0200, BrritSki
wrote:

On 21/09/2010 21:22, Ace wrote:
On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 19:37:59 +0100, "Mike"
wrote:


So, 2 short visits and diss the resort for some encounter with some bankers.


Well, it's more than some people ;-) But yeah, this and BrittSki's
post do seem to be extrtapolating from a little experience.


Hold on, I listed many of the things that were worth it in Z, but if
you're not a great off-piste skier the skiing is NOT that great and the


Well of course, if you're not into off-piste, I'd agree - the on-piste
skiing is only average. Then again, I rarely stick to pistes, so am
not always the best person to comment on that ;-)

lift system sucks, even if you do know your way round it. We had a day
with a guide in our week there, and we spent about 20% of the day with
him queuing !


I really don't think it's any worse than most other large resorts. It
used to be a lot worse, but it's improved over recent years.

Anyway, it seems that you agree about this aspect in your reply. Ski
there once by all means, and then make your own mind up. I have, and
there are lots of other places I prefer, including Gressoney that you
mention, La Thuile and my own personal favourite Courchevel.


Oh yeah, sure, and I wouldn't/don't often ski Zermatt, but I do think
there's something special about it, so it should be on everyone's
"must ski" list.

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Old September 22nd 10, 05:17 PM posted to rec.skiing.resorts.europe,rec.skiing.alpine
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On Sep 22, 12:05*am, BrritSki wrote:
On 21/09/2010 22:48, twobuddha wrote:

Hey, how did you get out of my killfile - been tossed by another ISP ?

... *But it is pretty much the same thing that
Tilsbury did when he lied to AMerican law enforcement about me,
falsely accusing me of threatening him and others, lying to the cops
and committing felony perjury.


No, I didn't do any of those things.

Outright lie. You have bragged about doing so. You are nothing but a
psychopathic pathological liar, dickless coward, and an all around
asshole.
Lie some more.

Same ****, different day.
I wouldn't be surprised if Tilsbury was the sockpuppet.


No, I've always posted as BrritSki (apart from a couple of occasions as
jokes) and always linked to my *real* name.


Turns out it was your buddy Thompson. Got anything to say about him
falsely accusing me of molesting children?
Of course not. Pretty blatant double standard, wouldn't you say?
Damn, forgot. There is one standard for stalking psychopaths and
another standard for decent people who see you for what you are, eh,
asshole?


Unlike you, bobaloobob, Al Weinstein.

Don't bother to reply, you're plonked again.


Yeah, but your friends here get to see what a pathetic, laughable,
transparent freak you are. What a fraud!!!!!!!!!
Hey, if you are going to give me **** about eleven years ago, how
about criticizing your drinking and ski buddy Bob Thompson for going
sockpuppet and falsely accusing me of molesting children?
What's that you say? Nothing? Geez, what a ridiculous double
standard. It seems you never have any criticism for anyone who
defames me. Including yourself.

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Old September 22nd 10, 05:18 PM posted to rec.skiing.resorts.europe
Mike Clark[_2_]
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In message
Ace wrote:

On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 09:11:10 +0200, BrritSki
wrote:

On 21/09/2010 21:22, Ace wrote:
On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 19:37:59 +0100, "Mike"
wrote:


So, 2 short visits and diss the resort for some encounter with some bankers.

Well, it's more than some people ;-) But yeah, this and BrittSki's
post do seem to be extrtapolating from a little experience.


Hold on, I listed many of the things that were worth it in Z, but if
you're not a great off-piste skier the skiing is NOT that great and the


Well of course, if you're not into off-piste, I'd agree - the on-piste
skiing is only average. Then again, I rarely stick to pistes, so am
not always the best person to comment on that ;-)


In my two skiing trips to Zermatt I've probably clocked up about four
days skiing, all of them off-piste skiing but using the pistes to link
up routes or get back down to the valley at the end of the day.

(I've also visited several times for summer alpine mountaineering.)

The scenary is spectacular and there is a certain charm to the village.
There are also a couple of decent bars and restaurants that I enjoyed
visiting. But it certainly wouldn't be near the top of my list for a
place to spend a week of on-piste skiing.

lift system sucks, even if you do know your way round it. We had a
day with a guide in our week there, and we spent about 20% of the
day with him queuing !


I really don't think it's any worse than most other large resorts. It
used to be a lot worse, but it's improved over recent years.


For early season on piste skiing I usually end up somewhere in areas
such as Espace Killy, the Three Valleys, or Paradiski.

Later on when I'm touring I often pass through a lot of resorts, many of
them much smaller. If the weather conditions are not right you may
end up spending a few days on piste waiting for an improvement in
the off-piste. I've had some pleasant times in Jean St Luke, Morzine,
Arolla, Saas-Fee, Lauterbrunnen, Kandersteg, Andermatt, La Fouly, Bourg
Saint-Bernard and in some larger resorts such as Grand Bornand,
Courmayeur, Verbier and Grindelwald. My touring is often based
(beginning and end) around Argentiere, more recently staying in the
village of Le Buet, so I've got to know the slopes of Le Tour and Les
Grands Montets very well.

Queuing generally hasn't been a big problem in these resorts because
often I'm there when the weather is sub-optimal and many skiers
choose to stay indoors, or in the villages!

Anyway, it seems that you agree about this aspect in your reply. Ski
there once by all means, and then make your own mind up. I have, and
there are lots of other places I prefer, including Gressoney that you
mention, La Thuile and my own personal favourite Courchevel.


Oh yeah, sure, and I wouldn't/don't often ski Zermatt, but I do think
there's something special about it, so it should be on everyone's
"must ski" list.


Definitely it's a great place for scenic beauty in the mountains.

Mike
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Old September 22nd 10, 08:42 PM posted to rec.skiing.resorts.europe,rec.skiing.alpine
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On Sep 22, 12:05*am, BrritSki wrote:
On 21/09/2010 22:48, twobuddha wrote:

Hey, how did you get out of my killfile - been tossed by another ISP ?


Make up another lie, and brag about lying to ISP's, all in one line.
You really are proud of how your defamations worked, eh, freak?


... *But it is pretty much the same thing that
Tilsbury did when he lied to AMerican law enforcement about me,
falsely accusing me of threatening him and others, lying to the cops
and committing felony perjury.


No, I didn't do any of those things.


Outright lie. You participated in a criminal campaign that
deliberately lied to American LE and an American judge.
You committed perjury. You whined that you were so terrified of me
that you could not visit America. As if you and I were going to bump
into each other at one of the three hundred or so US ski resorts.
Considering I have never met you, don't know what you look like,
didn't know where you would be, etc.
How pathetic. How cowardly. How dishonest. How Roger Tilsbury.


Don't bother to reply, you're plonked again.


And of course, no comment on your friend Bob Thompson using a
sockpuppet of a dead man to falsely accuse me of molesting children.
How amoral. How disgusting. How normal for you.

 




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