Skiing in North America over Christmas - Do not want to go to Whistler. How about Fernie or Kirkwood?

in article , bdubya at
wrote on 10/6/03 12:55 PM:

On 6 Oct 2003 10:17:41 -0700, BW wrote:

Colorado: 50"+ (inches), best at 60" & over
Utah: 40"+, best at 50" & over
Calif.: 40"+, best at 50" or over
B.C.: 40"+, best at over 55". Whistler/Blackcomb are tall enough

WHAT???? When has Colorado EVER had more snow than any of the other areas
you
mentioned? Look at http://members.aol.com/crockeraf/ for details. You will
find
that CO typically has 2/3rd as much snow as anywhere else in the West at any
given time.

I think you misunderstood that post. IIRC, those figures were
estimates of minimum and optimal base for the skiing to be worthwhile
(i.e. deep enough that one could ski blue runs without suffering
multiple core-shots); thus, 40" would be adequate in the Wasatch, but
not in Colorado. I'm not sure I follow the logic (I woulda thought
Utah would need more depth than Cali, f'rinstance), but anyhow, I
don't think those figs were supposed to be comparative snowfall or
snowpack or whatever....


One of your sick buddies ( who can post to your private newsgroup) just
taunted a rape survivor. Got any comment on that filth?
Of course not.
Taunt rape survivors, you are welcome on rsa.terrorist. Tell the truth
about rsa.terrorist, and you are banned.

BoftheW wrote in message ...

I think you misunderstood that post. IIRC, those figures were
estimates of minimum and optimal base for the skiing

If that is what was meant, then it still does not make any sense. CO has the
most flat, grass covered terrain in the West.

Heck, you want flat and grass covered but skiable, c-mon out to Ski
Roundtop, Central PA any frosty morning after say, about November
15th. The last thing we do before we start blowing snow is to mow the
grass.

Crashj '1/4" frost on a 6" leaf mulch base, snow making in progress on
all trails' Johnson

In article , pigo says...
Not much flatter or grass covered than park ****ty. Alta is one thing,
park ****ty quite another. I've found that it takes about 100" for Alta
to have "pretty good" coverage. Meaning that you can get off of the runs
and begin to venture out to the rockier areas. But no matter how much
snow they get, I venture further and further "out". Areas that weren't
even a consideration with 200" are worth a look with 250". Then there
are still going to be some hidden edge rippers in those places. The main
difference between vain and park ****ty is that vain doesn't even have
the pitiful "steeps" that are jupiter. At least the flatish back bowls
of vain are long enough to link a few turns. It just better not get over
knee deep or you're going nowhere.

park ****ty is "skiable" with about 20". Nothing that I would pay for.
But for the tourist that comes on Thanksgiving? There's enough to slide
around on thanks to snowmaking and grass covered flats. The "bowls" need
80ish" but why bother for 5 boarder packed turns?


Dude, not that I'm an avid Park City proponent (Better stuff over in the
Cottonwoods) but what did the area ever do to you that you never cease to slam
it? Got run out of town? Bad blood with locals? Just curious why so much venom?
PC is what it is: a resort town for tourists, more like CO than UT. Instead, you
would live in SLC (or even Alta Canyon)? That bastion of enlightened thinking
and non-traditional life styles? I'll take PC and commuting to LCC any day over
living in the happy, smoggy valley.

BackoftheWasatch

in article , BoftheW at
wrote on 10/7/03 8:48 AM:

In article , pigo says...
Not much flatter or grass covered than park ****ty. Alta is one thing,
park ****ty quite another. I've found that it takes about 100" for Alta
to have "pretty good" coverage. Meaning that you can get off of the runs
and begin to venture out to the rockier areas. But no matter how much
snow they get, I venture further and further "out". Areas that weren't
even a consideration with 200" are worth a look with 250". Then there
are still going to be some hidden edge rippers in those places. The main
difference between vain and park ****ty is that vain doesn't even have
the pitiful "steeps" that are jupiter. At least the flatish back bowls
of vain are long enough to link a few turns. It just better not get over
knee deep or you're going nowhere.

park ****ty is "skiable" with about 20". Nothing that I would pay for.
But for the tourist that comes on Thanksgiving? There's enough to slide
around on thanks to snowmaking and grass covered flats. The "bowls" need
80ish" but why bother for 5 boarder packed turns?


Dude, not that I'm an avid Park City proponent (Better stuff over in the
Cottonwoods) but what did the area ever do to you that you never cease to slam
it? Got run out of town?

Actually, yes.

Bad blood with locals?

There are a lot of people in Park City who think he's an asshole. I know a
few of them, former customers who didn't appreciate the crappy cocaine he
sold them.

Just curious why so much
venom?
PC is what it is: a resort town for tourists, more like CO than UT. Instead,
you
would live in SLC (or even Alta Canyon)? That bastion of enlightened thinking
and non-traditional life styles? I'll take PC and commuting to LCC any day
over
living in the happy, smoggy valley.


Same here. PC is sure a precious community, overeducated with incredibly
ridiculous expectations of government and the resorts....but at least it is
reasonably sophisticated.
Personally, I think Bob is a closet Mormon, getting ready to stop using
drugs and drinking and devote his life to his mission, spreading the word to
snowboarders at Brighton.

"BoftheW" wrote in message
...
In article , pigo says...
Not much flatter or grass covered than park ****ty. Alta is one
thing,
park ****ty quite another. I've found that it takes about 100" for
Alta
to have "pretty good" coverage. Meaning that you can get off of the
runs
and begin to venture out to the rockier areas. But no matter how much
snow they get, I venture further and further "out". Areas that
weren't
even a consideration with 200" are worth a look with 250". Then there
are still going to be some hidden edge rippers in those places. The
main
difference between vain and park ****ty is that vain doesn't even
have
the pitiful "steeps" that are jupiter. At least the flatish back
bowls
of vain are long enough to link a few turns. It just better not get
over
knee deep or you're going nowhere.

park ****ty is "skiable" with about 20". Nothing that I would pay
for.
But for the tourist that comes on Thanksgiving? There's enough to
slide
around on thanks to snowmaking and grass covered flats. The "bowls"
need
80ish" but why bother for 5 boarder packed turns?


Dude, not that I'm an avid Park City proponent (Better stuff over in
the
Cottonwoods) but what did the area ever do to you that you never cease
to slam
it? Got run out of town? Bad blood with locals? Just curious why so
much venom?
PC is what it is: a resort town for tourists, more like CO than UT.
Instead, you
would live in SLC (or even Alta Canyon)? That bastion of enlightened
thinking
and non-traditional life styles? I'll take PC and commuting to LCC any
day over
living in the happy, smoggy valley.

Where do you see slamming? Other than "park ****ty"? *YOU* spoke of
Colorado as if it was flat and grass covered as though Utah was not.
Jupiter *is* short. That's just the way it is. Not slamming.

I took pc for 17 years. For the past 7 SLC. I wouldn't trade SLC for pc
in the 80's or early 90's. Now? Gladly. How does one get run out of town
anyway? I took the money and ran. Is that what you mean?

I put my house up the day that they announced that pc was allowing
snowboards. Closed 2 weeks later. I lived right behind mainstreet. There
was enough petty theft and noise as it was. I didn't need to be there
when the gangster poser wannabe's had there first beer and thought it
would be fun to spraypaint the side of my house. That seems like pretty
sound thinking to me.

"Kurt Knisely" wrote in message
...
In article , BoftheW says...

Dude, not that I'm an avid Park City proponent (Better stuff over in
the
Cottonwoods) but what did the area ever do to you that you never
cease to slam
it? Got run out of town? Bad blood with locals? Just curious why so
much venom?
PC is what it is: a resort town for tourists, more like CO than UT.
Instead, you
would live in SLC (or even Alta Canyon)? That bastion of enlightened
thinking
and non-traditional life styles? I'll take PC and commuting to LCC
any day over
living in the happy, smoggy valley.

BackoftheWasatch

It's no use, I asked the same question years ago, and received more
venom in
return.

Maybe if you could point out the "venom"? My post was an accurate reply
to his characterization that CO. was grassy and flat and UT was not.
park****ty is a pretty common slang term for pc. Not particularly
"venemous".

I heard he's unemployed and still living off the $ he made from
selling
his place in PC.

I don't work 40 hrs/wk. Should I? I have money from the pc place. So? I
work when the job is right. It gets boring not to. As a matter of fact
I'm working near pc. I can't use any of the pc contractors though.
They're about double in price. About the only reason I go into town is
to empty my rat traps:-)

There are trust funders and people who don't have to work on
USENET. Take what they have to say w/ a grain of salt.

What would a persons parents hard work, or their own, have to do with
what they say on usenet?

pigo

On 7 Oct 2003 08:48:54 -0700, BoftheW
wrote:

I'll take PC and commuting to LCC any day over
living in the happy, smoggy valley.

You're little commute from PC to LCC just happens to contribute to
this "smoggy valley" effect. But the smog isn't in your back yard, so
I guess it's OK.

Personally, I don't want to live in an over-rated, over-developed, and
over-priced tourist ski town where the skiing and snow sucks, nor do I
like the idea of driving down a canyon, then up a canyon, then back
down a canyon, and finally back up a canyon every ski day.

PC was a unique place 30 some years ago....the skiing was worth ****
then, and it's worth **** now....but to make matters even worse, all
the assholes from California started to move in.

-Astro

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in article , pigo at
wrote on 10/7/03 10:23 AM:


"BoftheW" wrote in message
...
In article , pigo says...
Not much flatter or grass covered than park ****ty. Alta is one
thing,
park ****ty quite another. I've found that it takes about 100" for
Alta
to have "pretty good" coverage. Meaning that you can get off of the
runs
and begin to venture out to the rockier areas. But no matter how much
snow they get, I venture further and further "out". Areas that
weren't
even a consideration with 200" are worth a look with 250". Then there
are still going to be some hidden edge rippers in those places. The
main
difference between vain and park ****ty is that vain doesn't even
have
the pitiful "steeps" that are jupiter. At least the flatish back
bowls
of vain are long enough to link a few turns. It just better not get
over
knee deep or you're going nowhere.

park ****ty is "skiable" with about 20". Nothing that I would pay
for.
But for the tourist that comes on Thanksgiving? There's enough to
slide
around on thanks to snowmaking and grass covered flats. The "bowls"
need
80ish" but why bother for 5 boarder packed turns?


Dude, not that I'm an avid Park City proponent (Better stuff over in
the
Cottonwoods) but what did the area ever do to you that you never cease
to slam
it? Got run out of town? Bad blood with locals? Just curious why so
much venom?
PC is what it is: a resort town for tourists, more like CO than UT.
Instead, you
would live in SLC (or even Alta Canyon)? That bastion of enlightened
thinking
and non-traditional life styles? I'll take PC and commuting to LCC any
day over
living in the happy, smoggy valley.

Where do you see slamming? Other than "park ****ty"? *YOU* spoke of
Colorado as if it was flat and grass covered as though Utah was not.
Jupiter *is* short. That's just the way it is. Not slamming.

I took pc for 17 years. For the past 7 SLC. I wouldn't trade SLC for pc
in the 80's or early 90's. Now? Gladly. How does one get run out of town
anyway? I took the money and ran. Is that what you mean?

Took the profits from his drug dealing and ran, he means.

I put my house up the day that they announced that pc was allowing
snowboards. Closed 2 weeks later. I lived right behind mainstreet. There
was enough petty theft and noise as it was. I didn't need to be there
when the gangster poser wannabe's had there first beer and thought it
would be fun to spraypaint the side of my house. That seems like pretty
sound thinking to me.

Strange how this asshole loves to post my address and encourage the gansta
poser wannabes to visit ME. But recruiting others to do his violence for
him is standard Bob Thompson behavior.

Amazing. A pathological liar and terrorist has the gall to call people from
California "assholes".
Hey, Assholepax? Is everybody in Park City a psychopath like you, a person
without any decency, ethics, and morals, a self-centered bozo who thinks
skiing at Alta makes him special?
Personally, I've met more assholes at Alta than at any other area in Utah.
No wonder this dip**** skis there.

in article , AstroPax at
wrote on 10/7/03 8:46 PM:

On 7 Oct 2003 08:48:54 -0700, BoftheW
wrote:

I'll take PC and commuting to LCC any day over
living in the happy, smoggy valley.

You're little commute from PC to LCC just happens to contribute to
this "smoggy valley" effect. But the smog isn't in your back yard, so
I guess it's OK.

Personally, I don't want to live in an over-rated, over-developed, and
over-priced tourist ski town where the skiing and snow sucks, nor do I
like the idea of driving down a canyon, then up a canyon, then back
down a canyon, and finally back up a canyon every ski day.

PC was a unique place 30 some years ago....the skiing was worth ****
then, and it's worth **** now....but to make matters even worse, all
the assholes from California started to move in.

-Astro

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maximum exposure f/2.8
http://www.xmission.com/~hound/astro/03-04/index.htm
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in article , Kurt Knisely at
se wrote on 10/8/03 7:26 AM:

It will snow someday and then we won't be discussing this crap...


No, you'll just be falsely accusing me of molesting children and making up
more gross and defamatory lies, like usual.