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Anyone fancy helping with my ski choice?
Hi,
I am sure I am going about this the wrong way, trying to buy a some skis without trying them, but it will be a load easier this way. Thanks in advance for any help, ASAP is good as I want to get them in the next day or so. Me - I can manage without much difficulty all the groomed slopes I have been on in the western US. I enjoy fast carving turns. I am interested in getting into off piste stuff, but I am not sure I am going to get out there. I am planing on skiing for the next 3 weeks or so in the tahoe area. I am male, 5'6" high, 190 lb (it is not all fat ;-). The skis I am looking at - Atomic Beta 9.18 Blue 160cm $180 ex-demo Dynastar Omecarve 07 Speed 162cm $260 new, including bindings 2003 Salomon CrossMax 700 160cm $175 ex-demo Rossignol Rebel 160cm $95 private sale, used 6 times Head iSL 160cm $350 private sale, 1 season old and skiied eight days Salomon X-Scream 163cm $200ish, private sale I am tempted by the Head iSL, but have some doubts that they may be too advanced for me. I do not know what this means exactly, but I guess I am willing to learn (both what it means, and how to deal with advanced skis). Any thoughts (ASAP) greatly appreciated. |
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So you do not rate the Head iSL? They sound to me like a high end
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lal_truckee wrote: VtSkier wrote: wrote: Hi, I am sure I am going about this the wrong way, trying to buy a some skis without trying them, but it will be a load easier this way. Thanks in advance for any help, ASAP is good as I want to get them in the next day or so. Me - I can manage without much difficulty all the groomed slopes I have been on in the western US. I enjoy fast carving turns. I am interested in getting into off piste stuff, but I am not sure I am going to get out there. I am planing on skiing for the next 3 weeks or so in the tahoe area. I am male, 5'6" high, 190 lb (it is not all fat ;-). The skis I am looking at - Atomic Beta 9.18 Blue 160cm $180 ex-demo Dynastar Omecarve 07 Speed 162cm $260 new, including bindings 2003 Salomon CrossMax 700 160cm $175 ex-demo Rossignol Rebel 160cm $95 private sale, used 6 times Head iSL 160cm $350 private sale, 1 season old and skiied eight days Salomon X-Scream 163cm $200ish, private sale I am tempted by the Head iSL, but have some doubts that they may be too advanced for me. I do not know what this means exactly, but I guess I am willing to learn (both what it means, and how to deal with advanced skis). Any thoughts (ASAP) greatly appreciated. Just off the top of my head, I'd go for the X-Screams. The Cross Max might be second choice.Oops, they are 700's. Forget it. You'd want 10 or 100's or 1000's whatever. Foprget the Rebels, or anything else that's really a low end carving ski. Go for a high end mid-fat for what you are thinking about. Seen very good results from XScream users - but 163 is too short for a 190lb man in that ski, IMO. 178 would be closer. Do you think? Whenever I go to a hire place, they recomend between 150 - 160. I was using Volkl T50 154's (hire skis) last weekend, and I thought they were good. I really do not have the experience to tell whether they are "right" though. OP: what's wrong with your current skis? - off piste doesn't take some magic ski formulation; what it takes is arcing a decent carve in whatever conditions there are - you say you can carve; just do it in the crud on your current skis to start with. My comment: Get boots. I do not have skis at the moment. I have finally got my own boots close to the right shape (with streaching). I have decided it is time to get skis. I want them mostly for on piste stuff. I think it will be cheaper to buy them than hire them for 3 weeks. |
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lal_truckee wrote: My much smaller (than you) wife skied the XScream at 178. Within a ski line the manufacturer changes the flex with length to match the skier's weight and strength. Big strong skiers match the longer ski. It's not just a length preference issue - it's a performance issue. In different lines a particular length might be too short in one line, too long in another; it depends on the design. For instance in a slalom race ski 155cm might match a 150lb racer's strength but be too stiff (i.e. too long) for you; while in a carving ski a 175 might be too soft for 190lbs (i.e. too short.) Since each ski line is made differently for different purpose, there is no proper length for a particular person that applies accross different skis consistently. Often rental shops cater to beginners who fear length - who think longer skis are more difficult to turn or control (not so, but...) so the rental shop will just automatically recommend a short ski. Since rental fleet skis (as opposed to demo skis) are already soft flexing skis, the intermediate improving skier is often limited by his skis; makes learning anything a bitch. If you're serious about improving rent demo skis. Some mountains have demo programs were you can come in repeatedly to exchange skis - it might be instructive to try the same ski in several lengths one run after another. That is a really interesting discusion of what length to go for. So how do you decide? It would appear that the X Scream are not available anyway, so does anyone have any thoughts on the Head iSL? There are very few references to them on the web, so I guess they are not popular. They really do sound like good skis to me though. |
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Thanks all for the help. I guess I kind of went with the advice, esp.
the last one. I got the Head iSL's for $300. They are heavier than I expected, but are the sort of shape I was looking for, and are nearly new. We shall see. |
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