Titlis

On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 16:03:05 +0100, Ian Spare
wrote:

On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 15:27:05 +0100, Johannes
wrote:


I don't live round Lake Geneva, but I do live in the Fribourg canton..

Ok from Fribourg is the Diablerets nearer as the Titlis.
Btw you can also go to Saas Fee. From the city Fribourg you have
3-3.25h i think.

Johannes

Thanks, I lied though :-) I don't actually live there until next week
but I figured it's close enough....

I'm going to be on the edge of the canton towards Murten, where else
is good in the area ?

Well you've got Adelbode/lenk (which actually links with the gstaad
area) probably 45-60 minutes away, plus the Interlaken resorts
(Wengen, Murren, Grindelwald) and you're close enough to get to
Flaine, Portes de Soleil, Chamonix, Verbier etc. in probably only two
hours or so.

Saas Fee, Crans, Zermatt would be perhaps 2.5 hours, depending on the
state of the traffic on the road up to the tunnel at Kandersteg and
how busy the train is.

Johannes will probably be along shortly with a much longer list, as
he's posted it before with approximate times from Basel. Actually, I
may as well quote it:


The List :-)

Central Switzerland:
Engelberg: www.titlis.ch 1.5h from Basel
Soerenberg www.soerenberg.ch 1.5 h.
Andermatt www.andermatt.ch 1.75 h from Basel. You can also go from
Andermatt to the Oberalp Pass. (The resort is Sedrun
www.sedrunbergbahnen.ch) ; It give Daytickets, Railway included.
Melchsee Frutt http://www.melchsee-frutt.ch/ 1.5H
Klewenalp www.klewenalp.ch 1h 20m
Lungern-Schönbühl http://www.panoramawelt.ch/ 1.75h

East Switzerland:
Flumserberg www.flumserberg.com 2 h
Bad Ragaz/Wengs www.pizol.com 2 h

Berner Oberland:
Adelboden www.adelboden.ch 1.75 h or Lenk www.lenk.ch 2.25 h; partial
the same aera.
Zweisimmen www.zweisimmen.ch 2 h or http://www.skigstaad.ch/
Meiringen/Hasliberg http://www.alpenregion.ch/frame_wint.html 2h
Grindelwald www.grindelwald.ch 2-2.25h
Wiriehorn-Diemtigtal http://www.wiriehornbahnen.ch/ 1.75h

West switzerland:
Villars/Gryon www.villars.ch
Leysin http://www.leysin.ch/
Port du Soleil http://www.portesdusoleil.com/ all are ca 2.25-2.5 h
from Basel.

Others within 2h:

Kt Schwyz:
Hoch Ybrig http://www.ybrig.ch/region_ybrig.htm
Mythen http://www.ski-mythen.ch/start.htm

Kt Freiburg:
Moleson http://www.moleson.ch/
Charmey http://www.charmey.ch/welcome.htm
Schwarzsee http://www.schwarzsee-tourismus.ch/

HTH
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Ski Club of Great Britain - http://www.skiclub.co.uk
All opinions expressed are personal and in no way represent those of the Ski Club.

On 29/10/2003 16:23, in article ,
"Ace" wrote:

Well you've got Adelbode/lenk (which actually links with the gstaad
area) probably 45-60 minutes away, plus the Interlaken resorts
(Wengen, Murren, Grindelwald) and you're close enough to get to
Flaine, Portes de Soleil, Chamonix, Verbier etc. in probably only two
hours or so.


As you can imagine I know exactly how far Chamonix and Flaine are :-) I've
been using a flat in Neuchatel since May and spending most weekends (that I
wasn't in Germany) over in Morillon or Chamonix since it was about 10'
cooler. From the office it takes 2hr 20m to Morillon 1100 and from the new
house around 2hr 10m which is fairly reasonable. The season pass, which I
bought on Saturday) being such a deal for the Grand Massif I'll be skiing
mostly over there but I'll be really keen to make the effort and try some
local hills.

The most local is Vue Des Alpes which is a few min's from the office and La
Roche is about 30km, but I've never personally heard of the place, anyone
been? I imagine it's just a small local hill.

Ian

On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 16:51:21 +0100, Ian Spare
wrote:

On 29/10/2003 16:23, in article ,
"Ace" wrote:

Well you've got Adelbode/lenk (which actually links with the gstaad
area) probably 45-60 minutes away, plus the Interlaken resorts
(Wengen, Murren, Grindelwald) and you're close enough to get to
Flaine, Portes de Soleil, Chamonix, Verbier etc. in probably only two
hours or so.


As you can imagine I know exactly how far Chamonix and Flaine are :-)

The season pass, which I
bought on Saturday) being such a deal for the Grand Massif I'll be skiing
mostly over there

This'll be the first season for four years that I won't be repping
there at some point, but I'll probably try and get down for Easter
again - see all t'old faces, like. Starting the season with three
weeks in Andorra over xmyth and new year, which should be a laugh and
a gentle 'get fit' period for proper skiing later.

The most local is Vue Des Alpes which is a few min's from the office and La
Roche is about 30km, but I've never personally heard of the place, anyone
been? I imagine it's just a small local hill.

Never heard of it. Let us know when you give it a try.

--
Ace (bruce dot rogers at roche dot com)
Ski Club of Great Britain - http://www.skiclub.co.uk
All opinions expressed are personal and in no way represent those of the Ski Club.

On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 16:23:29 +0100, Ace wrote:

On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 16:03:05 +0100, Ian Spare
wrote:

Ok from Fribourg is the Diablerets nearer as the Titlis.
Btw you can also go to Saas Fee. From the city Fribourg you have
3-3.25h i think.

Johannes

Thanks, I lied though :-) I don't actually live there until next week
but I figured it's close enough....

I'm going to be on the edge of the canton towards Murten, where else
is good in the area ?

Well you've got Adelbode/lenk (which actually links with the gstaad
Lenk is not linked with Gsaad
But there is a liftticket vor the Berneroberland that include both
aera.

area) probably 45-60 minutes away, plus the Interlaken resorts
(Wengen, Murren, Grindelwald) and you're close enough to get to
Flaine, Portes de Soleil, Chamonix, Verbier etc. in probably only two
hours or so.

Saas Fee, Crans, Zermatt would be perhaps 2.5 hours, depending on the
state of the traffic on the road up to the tunnel at Kandersteg and
how busy the train is.

From Murten he goes rather over the lake geneva. (I think it takes
0.5-75 longer)
Because if you don't hit the train (all 30min) you have the same time
but the Train kost 25.- each direction.
Murten - Kandersteg 1h , train, Goppenstein - Saas Fee 1h


Johannes will probably be along shortly with a much longer list, as
he's posted it before with approximate times from Basel. Actually, I
may as well quote it:

The List :-)

Central Switzerland:
Engelberg: www.titlis.ch 1.5h from Basel
Soerenberg www.soerenberg.ch 1.5 h.
From Murten you drive a other route as from Basel.

Andermatt www.andermatt.ch 1.75 h from Basel. You can also go from
Andermatt to the Oberalp Pass. (The resort is Sedrun
www.sedrunbergbahnen.ch) ; It give Daytickets, Railway included.
Melchsee Frutt http://www.melchsee-frutt.ch/ 1.5H
Klewenalp www.klewenalp.ch 1h 20m
Lungern-Schönbühl http://www.panoramawelt.ch/ 1.75h

East Switzerland:
Flumserberg www.flumserberg.com 2 h
Bad Ragaz/Wengs www.pizol.com 2 h

Berner Oberland:
Adelboden www.adelboden.ch 1.75 h or Lenk www.lenk.ch 2.25 h; partial
the same aera.
Zweisimmen www.zweisimmen.ch 2 h or http://www.skigstaad.ch/
Chateau-d'Oex, Rougemont belong also to Ski Gstaad. There are 5
diverend spots.


Meiringen/Hasliberg http://www.alpenregion.ch/frame_wint.html 2h
From Murten you drive from Interlaken to Hasliberg not over the Brünig
Pass.

Grindelwald www.grindelwald.ch 2-2.25h
Wiriehorn-Diemtigtal http://www.wiriehornbahnen.ch/ 1.75h

West switzerland:
Villars/Gryon www.villars.ch
Leysin http://www.leysin.ch/
Port du Soleil http://www.portesdusoleil.com/ all are ca 2.25-2.5 h
from Basel.

Others within 2h:

Kt Schwyz:
Hoch Ybrig http://www.ybrig.ch/region_ybrig.htm
Mythen http://www.ski-mythen.ch/start.htm

Kt Freiburg:
Moleson http://www.moleson.ch/
Charmey http://www.charmey.ch/welcome.htm
Schwarzsee http://www.schwarzsee-tourismus.ch/

From Bern you got 1h less to the Berneroberland and West Switzerland
as from Basel.
Btw for West Switzerland you take bettter the country Road till
Fribourg north and than the freeway till Vevey so you miss the traffic
around Lausanne.

Johannes

On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 21:44:31 +0100, Johannes
wrote:

On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 16:23:29 +0100, Ace wrote:

Well you've got Adelbode/lenk (which actually links with the gstaad

Lenk is not linked with Gsaad

Well, it is, sort of. If you're in Gstaad then the areas themselves
are not 'linked' as such, so car/bus/train transprt between them is
required. In that sense Lenk is equally linked, as it's only a short
drive or train ride further up the valley from Zweisimmen/St. Stephan.

So it would be possible to ski from Adelboden over to Lenk, then take
the bus to one of the Gstaad areas, ski there, then get back to
Adelboden in a single day, if you really wanted to.

--
Ace (bruce dot rogers at roche dot com)
Ski Club of Great Britain - http://www.skiclub.co.uk
All opinions expressed are personal and in no way represent those of the Ski Club.

On 30/10/2003 09:46, in article ,
"Ace" wrote:

On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 21:44:31 +0100, Johannes
wrote:

On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 16:23:29 +0100, Ace wrote:

Well you've got Adelbode/lenk (which actually links with the gstaad

Lenk is not linked with Gsaad

Well, it is, sort of. If you're in Gstaad then the areas themselves
are not 'linked' as such, so car/bus/train transprt between them is
required. In that sense Lenk is equally linked, as it's only a short
drive or train ride further up the valley from Zweisimmen/St. Stephan.

So it would be possible to ski from Adelboden over to Lenk, then take
the bus to one of the Gstaad areas, ski there, then get back to
Adelboden in a single day, if you really wanted to.

I'll go and see, a guy I know takes a place there each winter.

On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 09:46:35 +0100, Ace wrote:

On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 21:44:31 +0100, Johannes
wrote:

On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 16:23:29 +0100, Ace wrote:

Well you've got Adelbode/lenk (which actually links with the gstaad

Lenk is not linked with Gsaad

Well, it is, sort of. If you're in Gstaad then the areas themselves
are not 'linked' as such, so car/bus/train transprt between them is
required. In that sense Lenk is equally linked, as it's only a short
drive or train ride further up the valley from Zweisimmen/St. Stephan.
Right. But you should read exchange with other Regions. It depend on
the Ticket you got. The www.skigstaad.ch site is more informativ as
the Adelboden site. But it's from last season.


So it would be possible to ski from Adelboden over to Lenk, then take
the bus to one of the Gstaad areas, ski there, then get back to
Adelboden in a single day, if you really wanted to.

If you like a "world travel" you can do that. :-

Johannes

On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 18:39:07 +0100, Johannes
wrote:

On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 09:46:35 +0100, Ace wrote:

So it would be possible to ski from Adelboden over to Lenk, then take
the bus to one of the Gstaad areas, ski there, then get back to
Adelboden in a single day, if you really wanted to.

If you like a "world travel" you can do that. :-

Heh. I didn't say I'd advise it, just that it was possible...

--
Ace (bruce dot rogers at roche dot com)
Ski Club of Great Britain - http://www.skiclub.co.uk
All opinions expressed are personal and in no way represent those of the Ski Club.

Yn erthygl , sgrifennodd
Ace :
Normally early season has four or five official runs open and
sometimes the unpisted black to cut back to the middle station is
skiable, which can offer some significantly interesting :-) off-piste
variations.

Ah, THAT black! The only piste I've baulked at (excluding icy patches)
in recent years. I imagine it's probably safer when it's got softer
snow on it before it officially opens!

Adrian
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Yn erthygl , sgrifennodd
Johannes :
But there is a liftticket vor the Berneroberland that include both
aera.

There is? Does it include all the resorts in the Berner Oberland (Jungfrau
included)? I didn't find out about this last year, though if I had have,
I'd have probably bought one.

Adrian
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