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Ping Mr. Robert Lee
Phlubarb wrote:
I wound up watching the Discovery Channel's thing about a super eruption of Yellowstone. My question is (besides do we need to kiss our collective asses goodbye) has your agency been paying attention to any info we haven't heard or is it just the usual media hype about something that is a long way off? Yellowstone is a long time off. Long Valley (Mammoth) is much sooner. Yellowstone will take out much of the country. Long Valley will only take out the West. No kidding. The town of Mammoth Lakes deliberately built an alternate escape road in case the main exit is blocked by lava or something. Occasionally the earthquake rate in Long Valley crescendos and property values temporarily drop - interested (and patient) skiers can sometimes find bargain property, and may even be able to close escrow before a lava bomb falls on their newly acquired property. (Up here at Truckee we only have to worry about floods and earthquakes. Over by the lake they also have to worry about tsunamis [I am absolutely not ****ting you - tsunamis on the lake!] From earthquake induced landslides - the evidence is there for previous events!) |
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On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 22:01:09 -0700, Ted Waldron
wrote: You have to worry about the 8.0 or more that San Andreas Fault will release, in Geological Terms, it is imminent. We just have wimpy 6.8 earthquakes 30 miles under the ground up here. -ted We don't even have those, although I did feel the 6/10/87 SE Illinois quake (5.0) all the way up in Kalamazoo, which was interesting - felt like somebody grabbed a leg on my chair and gave it a brief, gentle lift. OTOH, I hope to be far away when New Madrid slips again; that's a scary one (but also a great Uncle Tupelo tune). bw |
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Ted Waldron wrote:
In article , lal_truckee wrote: Phlubarb wrote: I wound up watching the Discovery Channel's thing about a super eruption of Yellowstone. My question is (besides do we need to kiss our collective asses goodbye) has your agency been paying attention to any info we haven't heard or is it just the usual media hype about something that is a long way off? Yellowstone is a long time off. Long Valley (Mammoth) is much sooner. Yellowstone will take out much of the country. Hopefully just Wyoming and Eastern Idaho, and every Sinclair Station along the way Long Valley will only take out the West. Probably just Inyo county, if can take out Vancouver, then I will be impress. The explosion would have to be equal to Krakatoa in the 1880s, if it is going to take out the West. I don't think you quite have the scale of the Long Valley caldera, or the even larger Yellowstone if you mention such pips as Krakatoa. Think Toba in Indonesia, and Taupo in New Zealand for comparisons. Think 2000 cubic kilometers of tuff produced by the last Yellowstone eruption and 600 for LV. No kidding. The town of Mammoth Lakes deliberately built an alternate escape road in case the main exit is blocked by lava or something. Probably ash, lots of rock, but not much lava. I assume the USGS has monitors set up in the lava vents, but outside of places like the Big Island of Hawaii, it is going to be rock, ash and a small part of molten rock. What will kill everyone will be the noxious gasses and mudslides, especially if Mammoth Mtn erupts compare to other calderas in the Long Valley region. The Long Valley IS the caldera - Mammoth Mtn is a remnent of the rim. Occasionally the earthquake rate in Long Valley crescendos and property values temporarily drop - interested (and patient) skiers can sometimes find bargain property, and may even be able to close escrow before a lava bomb falls on their newly acquired property. I would start packing when the lava domes starts forming, or all the snow melts away from Mammoth Mountain, and there is bulge showing, and it isn't from eating curly fries at Hooters, like what happened to St. Helens in 1980. Uh, the dome is expanding - that is what's causing the swarms of little quakes. Nothing bothers the skiers, though. They just keep on coming. Our Nightmare up here in the Puget Sound is called Rainier, 2 million people around it. The largest Glacial System in the Lower 48 states, ready to become the largest purveyor of wet cement if it explodes to Olympia, Tacoma (which should be eradicated, it would help it aesthetically) Southern King County are right in the path of any major mudflows. Luckily at this moment, it isn't St. Helens. (Up here at Truckee we only have to worry about floods and earthquakes. Over by the lake they also have to worry about tsunamis [I am absolutely not ****ting you - tsunamis on the lake!] From earthquake induced landslides - the evidence is there for previous events!) You have to worry about the 8.0 or more that San Andreas Fault will release, in Geological Terms, it is imminent. We just have wimpy 6.8 earthquakes 30 miles under the ground up here. Ah, actually the Tahoe basin has it's own faults (San Andreas is 150+ miles west) good for a 7 plus. The really neat thing is while the tsunami is predicted to be up to 30 feet just from a quake (much bigger if a big slide happens (and it has - there is debris on the lake floor) the waves don't subside - they slosh back and forth for nearly a day. Should be a sight to behold for the survivors. |
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Ted Waldron wrote:
In article , lal_truckee wrote: CLIP http://lvo.wr.usgs.gov/Outlook.html I don't see any predictions of an eruption in the Long Valley Caldera ready to take out the west? or repeat of its colossal eruption 760k years ago? Nuts - it's an Chinese anti-proverb; we live in uninteresting times. CLIP Given that I have been one of those skiers, Mammoth's high winds are a bigger deterrent from keeping people away, especially when they close the top. Right about that - Mammoth is known for the quality of its refreshing breezes. |
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Phlubarb wrote:
I wound up watching the Discovery Channel's thing about a super eruption of Yellowstone. ah ha. we over this bit of the world, meantime, are keeping a close eye on Krakatoa, and Toba! ant |
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Ted Waldron wrote:
Our Nightmare up here in the Puget Sound is called Rainier, 2 million people around it. The largest Glacial System in the Lower 48 states, ready to become the largest purveyor of wet cement if it explodes to Olympia, Tacoma (which should be eradicated, it would help it aesthetically) Southern King County are right in the path of any major mudflows. Luckily at this moment, it isn't St. Helens. Just be sure not to feed it curly fries from Hooters, and you should be OK. ant |
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ant wrote:
Phlubarb wrote: I wound up watching the Discovery Channel's thing about a super eruption of Yellowstone. ah ha. we over this bit of the world, meantime, are keeping a close eye on Krakatoa, and Toba! Forget Krakatoa, add NZ Taupo. Let the worries commence. (My wife's granmother remembered Krakatoa - lived in Indonesia at the time.) |
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lal_truckee wrote:
ant wrote: Phlubarb wrote: I wound up watching the Discovery Channel's thing about a super eruption of Yellowstone. ah ha. we over this bit of the world, meantime, are keeping a close eye on Krakatoa, and Toba! Forget Krakatoa, add NZ Taupo. Let the worries commence. remember a few years back, the NZ ski season was completely buggered by a volcano going off... actually it might have been Taupo, come to think of it. (My wife's granmother remembered Krakatoa - lived in Indonesia at the time.) changed the weather for quite some time, they reckon. Good for snow, not so good for growing food though. ant |
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"ant" wrote in message ... lal_truckee wrote: ant wrote: Phlubarb wrote: I wound up watching the Discovery Channel's thing about a super eruption of Yellowstone. ah ha. we over this bit of the world, meantime, are keeping a close eye on Krakatoa, and Toba! Forget Krakatoa, add NZ Taupo. Let the worries commence. remember a few years back, the NZ ski season was completely buggered by a volcano going off... actually it might have been Taupo, come to think of it. That was near Taupo, on Mt Ruapehu.. I doubt the season on the south island was affected however |
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On Fri, 15 Apr 2005 14:17:08 +0900, tm wrote this
crap: (My wife's granmother remembered Krakatoa - lived in Indonesia at the time.) New Zealand? Yellowstone? Krakatoa? Mt St Helens? Small time bull****. Mt Fuji's threatening to erupt. Imagine how that will impact on my commute. Fuji's been dead for a long time. My T-shirt says, "This shirt is the ultimate power in the universe." |
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