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ski poles 46"
Sorry to intrude with something about skiing here but I have to buy new
poles. Had a cheap pair of the 'goode' brand but if you ask me they're not so 'goode'. The rubber basket's actually screw on or push on, mine fell off a few times and I'm not going to buy them again. The leke's I looked at were lighter and made of graphite. What's better composite or graphite ? Should I worry about the graphite poles breaking or does the fact that they're a tiny bit lighter make them better ? The thing I didn't like about the lekes was the strap loop is real tight, bothered me when putting my hands in & out of the straps, you would think they would make the strap loops long enough to allow a little more room. The rossignols had cheap looking leather grips that would have shredded in 1 season with the abuse I would have given them. Ad to that I only want to spend about $50 and buying a pair of poles is becoming a burden. I know they're only poles but I guess I'm putting too much thought into this. |
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Ron - NY wrote:
Sorry to intrude with something about skiing here but I have to buy new poles. Had a cheap pair of the 'goode' brand but if you ask me they're not so 'goode'. The rubber basket's actually screw on or push on, mine fell off a few times and I'm not going to buy them again. The leke's I looked at were lighter and made of graphite. What's better composite or graphite ? Should I worry about the graphite poles breaking or does the fact that they're a tiny bit lighter make them better ? The thing I didn't like about the lekes was the strap loop is real tight, bothered me when putting my hands in & out of the straps, you would think they would make the strap loops long enough to allow a little more room. The rossignols had cheap looking leather grips that would have shredded in 1 season with the abuse I would have given them. Ad to that I only want to spend about $50 and buying a pair of poles is becoming a burden. I know they're only poles but I guess I'm putting too much thought into this. $.50 aluminum from the bin at a swap meet. Poles are everywhere, often free - just look around. 50 cent aluminum, $50 composite (epoxy with some kind of fiber for strength), $100 graphite (epoxy with graphite fiber for strength) - you'll never know the difference. Until you snap a pair of the fiber poles up on the steep by getting them stuck in some buried rocks and have to ski down with one pole; versus bending an aluminum pole in the same circumstance and bending them back so you can ski down with two poles. |
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Ron - NY wrote:
Sorry to intrude with something about skiing here but I have to buy new poles. Had a cheap pair of the 'goode' brand but if you ask me they're not so 'goode'. The rubber basket's actually screw on or push on, mine fell off a few times and I'm not going to buy them again. The leke's I looked at were lighter and made of graphite. What's better composite or graphite ? Should I worry about the graphite poles breaking or does the fact that they're a tiny bit lighter make them better ? The thing I didn't like about the lekes was the strap loop is real tight, bothered me when putting my hands in & out of the straps, you would think they would make the strap loops long enough to allow a little more room. The rossignols had cheap looking leather grips that would have shredded in 1 season with the abuse I would have given them. Ad to that I only want to spend about $50 and buying a pair of poles is becoming a burden. I know they're only poles but I guess I'm putting too much thought into this. If I may ask, Why are you buying poles in a retail store? Go to a used sporting good shop if you need them immediately, if you don't, go to a ski swap. Also, check with lost and found at your local ski area and see if anyone has found your lost poles. My poles started out as some ultra-light European poles that I thought would break the third time I used them. I traded with a friend who had a pair of the original Goode poles. These were intended as rentals and had a lifetime warranty and were adjustable for length. I had them extended out to 48" (I'm 6' tall). A female ski buddy had an identical pair except they were 48" when the handle was all the way down and she really needed 44" and so we traded. This last trade was in 1998 and I still have the same poles. I also have my theft-resistant pair. One orange shaft, one green shaft with similarly mis-matched handles. Aluminum. Ron, I've read your TR's and you seem like someone who skis, not postures. Don't spend (much) money on poles. Think of all the beer you can buy with that $50. Use crap poles. Replace them every year or get indestructible ones and use them forever. Basically poles is poles. You can used to any weight regardless of how they feel in the store with the retail droid selling you on low swing weight. Mine are so heavy I can break a snowboarder's knees with one blow. |
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lal_truckee wrote:
Ron - NY wrote: Sorry to intrude with something about skiing here but I have to buy new poles. Had a cheap pair of the 'goode' brand but if you ask me they're not so 'goode'. The rubber basket's actually screw on or push on, mine fell off a few times and I'm not going to buy them again. The leke's I looked at were lighter and made of graphite. What's better composite or graphite ? Should I worry about the graphite poles breaking or does the fact that they're a tiny bit lighter make them better ? The thing I didn't like about the lekes was the strap loop is real tight, bothered me when putting my hands in & out of the straps, you would think they would make the strap loops long enough to allow a little more room. The rossignols had cheap looking leather grips that would have shredded in 1 season with the abuse I would have given them. Ad to that I only want to spend about $50 and buying a pair of poles is becoming a burden. I know they're only poles but I guess I'm putting too much thought into this. $.50 aluminum from the bin at a swap meet. Poles are everywhere, often free - just look around. 50 cent aluminum, $50 composite (epoxy with some kind of fiber for strength), $100 graphite (epoxy with graphite fiber for strength) - you'll never know the difference. Until you snap a pair of the fiber poles up on the steep by getting them stuck in some buried rocks and have to ski down with one pole; versus bending an aluminum pole in the same circumstance and bending them back so you can ski down with two poles. Ah, yes, but this needs to be the cheap aluminum variety. The expensive aluminum that are super light will snap even quicker than the composite. |
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Ron - NY wrote:
Sorry to intrude with something about skiing here but I have to buy new poles. My $.02 If you just use the cheap poles they're less likely to get stolen, and you won't feel so bad if they do. I would never ski the east (i.e. anywhere within a four hour drive of NYC) with expensive poles. I always lock up my skis, but I haven't figured out how to lock up my poles yet. //Walt |
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On Mon, 23 Mar 2009 16:57:55 -0400, "Ron - NY"
wrote this crap: Sorry to intrude with something about skiing here but I have to buy new poles. Had a cheap pair of the 'goode' brand but if you ask me they're not becoming a burden. I know they're only poles My advice is to go the cafeteria, plunder the cashbox, and use the loot to buy the best poles you can get. Go to the ski store, and always remember that when dealing with merchants, have a sack of gold in one hand, and a mighty sword in the other. If the merchant deals fairly he shall acquire the gold. If not, plunge your sword into him. And vote for Palin-Ahhnold in 2012. A mighty Hungarian warrior The blood of Attila runs through me |
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On Mon, 23 Mar 2009 17:11:05 -0400, VtSkier wrote
this crap: Basically poles is poles. You can used to any weight regardless of how they feel in the store with the retail droid selling you on low swing weight. Mine are so heavy I can break a snowboarder's knees with one blow. Now that's what I'm talking about. Whatever you have in your hands can be used a weapon. Train your men that way. That's what leadership is all about. How are you with hitting accordion players? And vote for Palin-Ahhnold in 2012. A mighty Hungarian warrior The blood of Attila runs through me |
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Ron - NY wrote:
The leke's I looked at were lighter and made of graphite. What's better composite or graphite ? I don't think I could raise my butt out of the snow with either of those. The thing I didn't like about the lekes was the strap loop is real tight, bothered me when putting my hands in & out of the straps, you would think they would make the strap loops long enough to allow a little more room. I don't use the straps. It takes too much time. The rossignols had cheap looking leather grips I prefer the cheap plastic grips. -- Mike Treseler |
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ski poles 46"
"VtSkier" wrote in message ... Ron - NY wrote: Sorry to intrude with something about skiing here but I have to buy new poles. Had a cheap pair of the 'goode' brand but if you ask me they're not so 'goode'. The rubber basket's actually screw on or push on, mine fell off a few times and I'm not going to buy them again. The leke's I looked at were lighter and made of graphite. What's better composite or graphite ? Should I worry about the graphite poles breaking or does the fact that they're a tiny bit lighter make them better ? The thing I didn't like about the lekes was the strap loop is real tight, bothered me when putting my hands in & out of the straps, you would think they would make the strap loops long enough to allow a little more room. The rossignols had cheap looking leather grips that would have shredded in 1 season with the abuse I would have given them. Ad to that I only want to spend about $50 and buying a pair of poles is becoming a burden. I know they're only poles but I guess I'm putting too much thought into this. If I may ask, Why are you buying poles in a retail store? Go to a used sporting good shop if you need them immediately, if you don't, go to a ski swap. Also, check with lost and found at your local ski area and see if anyone has found your lost poles. My poles started out as some ultra-light European poles that I thought would break the third time I used them. I traded with a friend who had a pair of the original Goode poles. These were intended as rentals and had a lifetime warranty and were adjustable for length. I had them extended out to 48" (I'm 6' tall). A female ski buddy had an identical pair except they were 48" when the handle was all the way down and she really needed 44" and so we traded. This last trade was in 1998 and I still have the same poles. I also have my theft-resistant pair. One orange shaft, one green shaft with similarly mis-matched handles. Aluminum. Ron, I've read your TR's and you seem like someone who skis, not postures. Don't spend (much) money on poles. Think of all the beer you can buy with that $50. Use crap poles. Replace them every year or get indestructible ones and use them forever. Basically poles is poles. You can used to any weight regardless of how they feel in the store with the retail droid selling you on low swing weight. Mine are so heavy I can break a snowboarder's knees with one blow. It has more to do with comfort than anything and If I don't like a product I go out of my way NOT to buy it again. I take my straps on & off a LOT , because I ski long days with lots of runs. I HATE fumbling around at the top of the mountain trying to get my gloves through the straps. The 2nd problem was, I have a hard enough time skiing moguls as it is, but when you plant your pole into a mogul and the pole goes into a soft spot and dissapears into the mound about 3 feet, picture the scenario, you have to yank the sucker out which breaks your momentum, spins you around and crash bang. Then you have to chase your skis, put them back on, take your gloves off and try to put the little basket piece back on. Except one day the little sucker gets lost in a mogul and you can't find. Plus you have to listen to your girlfriend saying , cmon , cmom old man, your wasting time , let's go let's go. Then you have to ski the last few runs of the day with 1 1/2 poles wondering if the pole is going to plant right. Sorry you asked ? :-) |
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ski poles 46"
Ron - NY wrote:
"VtSkier" wrote in message ... Ron - NY wrote: Sorry to intrude with something about skiing here but I have to buy new poles. Had a cheap pair of the 'goode' brand but if you ask me they're not so 'goode'. The rubber basket's actually screw on or push on, mine fell off a few times and I'm not going to buy them again. The leke's I looked at were lighter and made of graphite. What's better composite or graphite ? Should I worry about the graphite poles breaking or does the fact that they're a tiny bit lighter make them better ? The thing I didn't like about the lekes was the strap loop is real tight, bothered me when putting my hands in & out of the straps, you would think they would make the strap loops long enough to allow a little more room. The rossignols had cheap looking leather grips that would have shredded in 1 season with the abuse I would have given them. Ad to that I only want to spend about $50 and buying a pair of poles is becoming a burden. I know they're only poles but I guess I'm putting too much thought into this. If I may ask, Why are you buying poles in a retail store? Go to a used sporting good shop if you need them immediately, if you don't, go to a ski swap. Also, check with lost and found at your local ski area and see if anyone has found your lost poles. My poles started out as some ultra-light European poles that I thought would break the third time I used them. I traded with a friend who had a pair of the original Goode poles. These were intended as rentals and had a lifetime warranty and were adjustable for length. I had them extended out to 48" (I'm 6' tall). A female ski buddy had an identical pair except they were 48" when the handle was all the way down and she really needed 44" and so we traded. This last trade was in 1998 and I still have the same poles. I also have my theft-resistant pair. One orange shaft, one green shaft with similarly mis-matched handles. Aluminum. Ron, I've read your TR's and you seem like someone who skis, not postures. Don't spend (much) money on poles. Think of all the beer you can buy with that $50. Use crap poles. Replace them every year or get indestructible ones and use them forever. Basically poles is poles. You can used to any weight regardless of how they feel in the store with the retail droid selling you on low swing weight. Mine are so heavy I can break a snowboarder's knees with one blow. It has more to do with comfort than anything and If I don't like a product I go out of my way NOT to buy it again. I take my straps on & off a LOT , because I ski long days with lots of runs. I HATE fumbling around at the top of the mountain trying to get my gloves through the straps. The 2nd problem was, I have a hard enough time skiing moguls as it is, but when you plant your pole into a mogul and the pole goes into a soft spot and dissapears into the mound about 3 feet, picture the scenario, you have to yank the sucker out which breaks your momentum, spins you around and crash bang. Then you have to chase your skis, put them back on, take your gloves off and try to put the little basket piece back on. Except one day the little sucker gets lost in a mogul and you can't find. Plus you have to listen to your girlfriend saying , cmon , cmom old man, your wasting time , let's go let's go. Then you have to ski the last few runs of the day with 1 1/2 poles wondering if the pole is going to plant right. Sorry you asked ? :-) Sounds like you need wider baskets - couple of decades ago baskets were wider; another advantage of old cheap poles. These days you seldom see wide baskets in shops except on backcountry poles. Re your lost basket, when I have a basket that's prone to departure I tear some duct tape to about 1/2 in width and wrap that around the pole under the basket; never lost a basket that's so treated, and they can still be removed if need be. |
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