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On Tue, 2 Dec 2003 15:04:22 CST, lal_truckee
wrote: Wait - let me try to understand. Are you suggesting we guide the inquisitive to your side of the hill? Hah! I suspect that you will probably get the typical response of "not in my back yard" from that one. -Astro |
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Bob Lee wrote:
The ease and the quality of an experience are often inversely proportional. Is that why usenet posts maintain such high quality prose? |
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AstroPax wrote:
Hah! I suspect that you will probably get the typical response of "not in my back yard" from that one. Actually, given the situation here, I've never really had a problem with the folks I meet up there. The only real anomoly to the whole scene is when Alta runs their snowcat to the top, since that tends to bring in somewhat different clientel. Well, that and the endless photogs in Wolverine mislabeling their shots as being at Alta or LCC. But, in general, the people that are up in my backyard are friendly, considerate, and looking for a different experience than what they would get in LCC.., which is, of course, why they are there. And as long as the access is not changed, that's how it will stay. But that experience isn't what people, in general, want. And that's fine by me. Just like I'm sure it's fine by you that people prefer Park City. At the same time, I'm sure you wouldn't want Park City type development in Alta. -klaus |
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lal_truckee wrote in message ...
Monique Y. Herman wrote: On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 at 20:00 GMT, Chester Bullock penned: Monique Y. Herman wrote: ObSki: at what point is base damage too severe to be repaired? If parts of the core are falling out or gouged horribly, then you may be at the limit. Otherwise, just go to Reliable or Tognar's website and get a ptex gun. Really severe core shots might benefit from some epoxy filling before ptexing. In fact I had some fav powder skis which I gave up on the base and just every once in awhile filled every deep shot with polyurethane glue, filed it off, and waxed it. Worked fine till I finally broke the last Emory binding toe piece I had in the junk box. Ouch, that would be scary. Nah, just some gouges in the base. I guess I'll bring them to a ski shop and see what they can do =) Maybe I'll wait for a few more snow storms first, though ... Ptex candle for $1.00 - much cheaper than a ptex gun. Give you an idea if you want to deal with self repairs before you invest in a gun. Speaking of, how do gouges actually affect skiing? Will I find myself suddenly dragged off course or something? Gouges right along the edge undefoot will give you a severe case of the rails making the ski feel weird and hard to turn. Just swapping ski sides so the gouge is on the outside edge will make a great improvement. Monique: If you have a digital camera, maybe you could take a couple of photos and make them available to those of us who know about DIY repair. We could look at the photos and give an opinion if they could be done by an amateur(sp?) or would need professional repairs to be done. My experience with gouges is that home repairs usually work ok if the gouges are cleaned out carefully before the ptex is dripped into the gouge. There is no way to color match, if the skiis are bright yellow, for example, but who cares as long as the bottoms are reasonably smooth. I highly recommend getting the Tognar catalog, or at least viewing it on the web. It will give you a good idea of what tools are available for making repairs, and you can get somewhat of a feeling for what repairs might actually cost the shop doing the repairs. Hope this helps, stay away from the rocks at Keystone and Breck. :-) H. R.(Bob) Hofmann |
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"Monique Y. Herman" wrote in message
... On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 at 20:52 GMT, Chester Bullock penned: Buy Seth's book and learn to do it yourself. I bought that book back in the late 80's and it helped me immensely. I still do all of my own repair work. http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/AS...010467-2915010 I'd be pretty worried about flubbing it. But I may take a look. Jumping in a little late here, but I have to comment. Some gouges in your bases is no big deal for Colorado skiing. Since (ideally) the snow is kind of soft and you're not racing, it's very unlikely that you would even notice. As others have mentioned, it's when you have core exposed, especially near an edge or sidewall damage that things should be addressed immediately. Or a base wound that allows you to catch the edge with you fingernail in the same direction that a rock might hit it (going from the center of the base toward the edge). If that's the case, you may want to get it fixed (or switch skis so it becomes an inside edge - that's the quick fix). That little catch could tear off or at damage an edge under the right circumstances. The big problem is when moisture gets between the laminated layers of the ski that it will start to make the ski fall apart. Just about any other damage is not a big deal. Edge burs matter when the snow is firm and make almost no difference in powder/chowder. I only repair my skis about once a year, or more if I have a "ski threatening" wound. Sometimes I'll get a ptex piece that creates noticeable drag. The fix? cut it off with a knife and keep skiing. I think most ski repairs are a scam and totally unnecessary. Matt |
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"Monique Y. Herman" wrote in message .. .
On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 at 20:52 GMT, Chester Bullock penned: Buy Seth's book and learn to do it yourself. I bought that book back in the late 80's and it helped me immensely. I still do all of my own repair work. http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/AS...010467-2915010 I'd be pretty worried about flubbing it. But I may take a look. It's really not that difficult. Like Chester said, check out Tognar. Get them to send you their catalog. There's a lot of useful information in there. Check out their alpha tune kit: http://tognar.com/kits.html For the price of a couple of tune ups, you can do it yourself. I usually get a complete tune up at the begining of the season then just do maintenance myself. The ptex gun is your best bet but a bit pricey. The next best option is a ptex iron and 'det cord' (see tognar). Candles work fine but stink up the house/garage pretty bad. Plus, if you have clear/white bases, it can be hard to keep the burn marks out. Besides, if you and the fiancée are nice to me and by me a few beers, I may just let you use my ptex gun. snoig |
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My advice: spend the time talking and - more importantly, listening - to
you son. Twelve years is a cusp. John Smith wrote: OK, it's a done deal. I'm taking my 12 year old son to Alta in January or February 2004. We've never experienced powder deeper than our ankles and only a couple of times at that. Nonetheless, my son loves going through the trees and through anything resembling powder (until he gets tired). So, this year I'm going to smarten up and get him a helmet. And I'm going to take him to Alta for a surprise ski trip. Anyone care to share the who what when where why's and how's of creating the potential for a perfect Alta ski vacation (just a couple of days). Does it involve CAT rides, guides, lessons, special ski clothes and gear, what, what does it take for a first timer, intermediate skier, at best, to have a great powder experience at Alta? Looking forward to comments, suggestions, etc. |
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On Fri, 05 Dec 2003 at 03:27 GMT, snoig penned:
Besides, if you and the fiancée are nice to me and by me a few beers, I may just let you use my ptex gun. Where are you, again? My fiancé is male and probably would prefer to be known as such =) (No extra e on the end.) -- monique |
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On Thu, 04 Dec 2003 at 16:47 GMT, H. R. Bob Hofmann penned:
Monique: If you have a digital camera, maybe you could take a couple of photos and make them available to those of us who know about DIY repair. We could look at the photos and give an opinion if they could be done by an amateur(sp?) or would need professional repairs to be done. My experience with gouges is that home repairs usually work ok if the gouges are cleaned out carefully before the ptex is dripped into the gouge. There is no way to color match, if the skiis are bright yellow, for example, but who cares as long as the bottoms are reasonably smooth. I highly recommend getting the Tognar catalog, or at least viewing it on the web. It will give you a good idea of what tools are available for making repairs, and you can get somewhat of a feeling for what repairs might actually cost the shop doing the repairs. Thank you for the offer! I just dragged the skis into the living room to prep them for their first gig as models ... but upon closer inspection, the damage really isn't that bad; not nearly as deep as I'd remembered. The S.O.'s are the ones with worse damage, and he says he isn't bothered by it, so I guess I have nothing to report. Hope this helps, stay away from the rocks at Keystone and Breck. :-) I guess it just surprised me that Keystone, tourist mecca and hence presumably posh and protective (go alliteration, go!) would bust up my skis, while A-Basin left no more of a mark than would a chamois cloth. I guess that goes to prove what they say about assumption! It makes an ass out of me and umption! -- monique |
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