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Can I set my own bindings?
bumpfreaq wrote:
On Feb 14, 9:20 am, Walt wrote: bumpfreaq wrote: On Feb 13, 5:24 pm, Walt wrote: Yeah, like tattoos, haircuts, and appendectomies, you don't want to do it yourself and you don't want to go to the cheapest guy in town. Hey, what's wrong with cutting my own hair? Well, it seems like an unnecessary effort for one. http://www.frappr.com/?a=photo&gid=381229&pid=363620&src=flash_slidet... //Walt Hooohooo! To the contrary, it's a necessary effort to cut lots and lots of my hairs a few times a week in order to maintain that clean and shiny look. Chris 3 more days of work 4 more days 'til I'm driving west 5 more days 'til sliding down that slippery slope And.... it's snowing in CO SnowsnowsnowsnowsnowsnowsnowsnowsnowSnowsnowsnowsn owsnowsnowsnowsnowsnow Snowsnowsnowsnowsnowsnowsnowsnowsnowbeercheeseands now Clearly a terminal case of short-timer syndrome. |
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Can I set my own bindings?
On Feb 14, 1:31 pm, VtSkier wrote:
bumpfreaq wrote: On Feb 14, 9:20 am, Walt wrote: bumpfreaq wrote: On Feb 13, 5:24 pm, Walt wrote: Yeah, like tattoos, haircuts, and appendectomies, you don't want to do it yourself and you don't want to go to the cheapest guy in town. Hey, what's wrong with cutting my own hair? Well, it seems like an unnecessary effort for one. http://www.frappr.com/?a=photo&gid=381229&pid=363620&src=flash_slidet... //Walt Hooohooo! To the contrary, it's a necessary effort to cut lots and lots of my hairs a few times a week in order to maintain that clean and shiny look. Chris 3 more days of work 4 more days 'til I'm driving west 5 more days 'til sliding down that slippery slope And.... it's snowing in CO SnowsnowsnowsnowsnowsnowsnowsnowsnowSnowsnowsnowsn owsnowsnowsnowsnowsnow Snowsnowsnowsnowsnowsnowsnowsnowsnowbeercheeseands now Clearly a terminal case of short-timer syndrome. Short-timer? |
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Can I set my own bindings?
Well, lots of good advice. BUT, unless the "expert" you choose uses
the device that actually pops the boot out of the binding to check the release torque, you might as well do it your self. I haven't seen any rental shop that does anything more than set the DIN. In fact, I haven't seen any retail stores that do anything more. I have seen only one "expert" shop that used the device I mentioned. Just my opinion, jimbo Suanne Lippman wrote: I just bought a pair of Fischer skis and bindings over the internet for my wife. (actually everyone local was out of stock for the year!) The system is such that mounting the bindings and setting them for the boot size is pretty foolproof. She is a very conservative skier, so setting the adjustments at the very bottom of the scale (4) like her old skis should be fine. I am able to pop the boots out with what seems like a reasonable amount of force Is there any compelling reason to have an "expert" check this over; are brand new binding likely to be really far off? If it were for me I wouldn't worry about it, but I would hate to see someone else get hurt because I would spring for a prudent expense. Thanks. |
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Can I set my own bindings?
"jimbo" wrote in message . .. Well, lots of good advice. BUT, unless the "expert" you choose uses the device that actually pops the boot out of the binding to check the release torque, you might as well do it your self. I haven't seen any rental shop that does anything more than set the DIN. In fact, I haven't seen any retail stores that do anything more. I have seen only one "expert" shop that used the device I mentioned. Just my opinion, jimbo I seen a few places do the binding test at others I haven't because it was done in a room that you have no access to. The tool goes in side the boot and has a gauge similar to a torque wrench but when the boot pops out it hold the reading. I believe most shops have the tool but generally it is kept out of sight. JQ Dancing on the edge |
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Can I set my own bindings?
You ought to use my shop.
I brought a case of beer and four pairs of skis this year, all I needed was a base grinds. They checked the binders on each pair, for free, with that little torque doohickey. You gotta know how to treat a shop rat.... Two Buddha Vail: Where skis never need to be tuned. -- ---------------------------------------------------- This mailbox protected from unsolicited email by Spam Alarm from Dignity Software http://www.dignitysoftware.com "jimbo" wrote in message . .. Well, lots of good advice. BUT, unless the "expert" you choose uses the device that actually pops the boot out of the binding to check the release torque, you might as well do it your self. I haven't seen any rental shop that does anything more than set the DIN. In fact, I haven't seen any retail stores that do anything more. I have seen only one "expert" shop that used the device I mentioned. Just my opinion, jimbo Suanne Lippman wrote: I just bought a pair of Fischer skis and bindings over the internet for my wife. (actually everyone local was out of stock for the year!) The system is such that mounting the bindings and setting them for the boot size is pretty foolproof. She is a very conservative skier, so setting the adjustments at the very bottom of the scale (4) like her old skis should be fine. I am able to pop the boots out with what seems like a reasonable amount of force Is there any compelling reason to have an "expert" check this over; are brand new binding likely to be really far off? If it were for me I wouldn't worry about it, but I would hate to see someone else get hurt because I would spring for a prudent expense. Thanks. ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 100,000 Newsgroups ---= East/West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- |
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Can I set my own bindings?
jimbo wrote:
Well, lots of good advice. BUT, unless the "expert" you choose uses the device that actually pops the boot out of the binding to check the release torque, you might as well do it your self. I haven't seen any rental shop that does anything more than set the DIN. In fact, I haven't seen any retail stores that do anything more. I have seen only one "expert" shop that used the device I mentioned. I set my own bindings, but during a slow time I asked the tech at my favorite hill a lot of questions, got a lot of useful information, and he torque-tested my bindings for free. I put $5 in the tip jar and we parted friends. Yeah, I'd done it right. -- Cheers, Bev --------------------------------------------------- Don't you just KNOW that there is more than one Sierra Club member who is absolutely sure that the dinosaurs died out because of something humans did? |
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Can I set my own bindings?
JQ wrote:
"jimbo" wrote: Well, lots of good advice. BUT, unless the "expert" you choose uses the device that actually pops the boot out of the binding to check the release torque, you might as well do it your self. I haven't seen any rental shop that does anything more than set the DIN. In fact, I haven't seen any retail stores that do anything more. I have seen only one "expert" shop that used the device I mentioned. Just my opinion, jimbo I seen a few places do the binding test at others I haven't because it was done in a room that you have no access to. The tool goes in side the boot and has a gauge similar to a torque wrench but when the boot pops out it hold the reading. I believe most shops have the tool but generally it is kept out of sight. It seems like it might not be all that difficult to make your own out of a shoe tree and a torque wrench. -- Cheers, Bev ************************************************* Never argue with a woman holding a torque wrench. |
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Can I set my own bindings?
bumpfreaq wrote:
On Feb 14, 1:31 pm, VtSkier wrote: bumpfreaq wrote: On Feb 14, 9:20 am, Walt wrote: bumpfreaq wrote: On Feb 13, 5:24 pm, Walt wrote: Yeah, like tattoos, haircuts, and appendectomies, you don't want to do it yourself and you don't want to go to the cheapest guy in town. Hey, what's wrong with cutting my own hair? Well, it seems like an unnecessary effort for one. http://www.frappr.com/?a=photo&gid=381229&pid=363620&src=flash_slidet... //Walt Hooohooo! To the contrary, it's a necessary effort to cut lots and lots of my hairs a few times a week in order to maintain that clean and shiny look. Chris 3 more days of work 4 more days 'til I'm driving west 5 more days 'til sliding down that slippery slope And.... it's snowing in CO SnowsnowsnowsnowsnowsnowsnowsnowsnowSnowsnowsnowsn owsnowsnowsnowsnowsnow Snowsnowsnowsnowsnowsnowsnowsnowsnowbeercheeseands now Clearly a terminal case of short-timer syndrome. Short-timer? You are so invested in getting out of where you are to go on to the next thing that you are incapable of doing any real work where you are now. |
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Can I set my own bindings?
jimbo wrote:
Well, lots of good advice. BUT, unless the "expert" you choose uses the device that actually pops the boot out of the binding to check the release torque, you might as well do it your self. I haven't seen any rental shop that does anything more than set the DIN. In fact, I haven't seen any retail stores that do anything more. I have seen only one "expert" shop that used the device I mentioned. If the "expert" doesn't use the release check device, don't pay him. Just my opinion, jimbo Suanne Lippman wrote: I just bought a pair of Fischer skis and bindings over the internet for my wife. (actually everyone local was out of stock for the year!) The system is such that mounting the bindings and setting them for the boot size is pretty foolproof. She is a very conservative skier, so setting the adjustments at the very bottom of the scale (4) like her old skis should be fine. I am able to pop the boots out with what seems like a reasonable amount of force Is there any compelling reason to have an "expert" check this over; are brand new binding likely to be really far off? If it were for me I wouldn't worry about it, but I would hate to see someone else get hurt because I would spring for a prudent expense. Thanks. |
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Can I set my own bindings?
The Real Bev wrote:
JQ wrote: "jimbo" wrote: Well, lots of good advice. BUT, unless the "expert" you choose uses the device that actually pops the boot out of the binding to check the release torque, you might as well do it your self. I haven't seen any rental shop that does anything more than set the DIN. In fact, I haven't seen any retail stores that do anything more. I have seen only one "expert" shop that used the device I mentioned. Just my opinion, jimbo I seen a few places do the binding test at others I haven't because it was done in a room that you have no access to. The tool goes in side the boot and has a gauge similar to a torque wrench but when the boot pops out it hold the reading. I believe most shops have the tool but generally it is kept out of sight. It seems like it might not be all that difficult to make your own out of a shoe tree and a torque wrench. That is essentially the Vermont Safety Research system. 1) you need to be able to read the torque wrench at the instant of release. To do this, the VSR wrench has a little plastic sliding thingy (technical term) that moves with the indicator and stays put when the indicator pops back to zero. I don't know if VSR puts the plastic thingy on the wrench or if the wrench comes that way. 2) with those two items you can now test lateral release at the toepiece. 3) to test forward release (more important IMO, because my ONLY releases in the last 10 years were sticking my skis into a mogul and having a double eject), you will need a "leg" for the shoe tree. The torque settings depend on the length of the "leg" and the leg has to be firmly attached to the boot. To me this is the larger problem. 4) your torque wrench needs to be calibrated in newton-meters (European standard) not foot-pounds (US standard). Not a difficult problem, but will avoid a lot of math since the tables for binding torque values are all listed in Newton- meters. |
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