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klaus wrote:
AstroPax wrote: P.S., just thought I would warn you that an alleged member of the "vast right-wing conspiracy" would be in the general vicinity of your neighborhood. There's no conspiracy, Neither side has the knowledge or guts to actually put an effective one together. Au contraire, mon vieux! -- Cheers, Bev *********************************************** "A complete lack of evidence is the surest sign that the conspiracy is working." -- Tanuki |
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The Real Bev wrote:
MoonMan wrote: The Real Bev wrote: MoonMan wrote: The Real Bev wrote: snip You can set the broken leg of somebody you'd rather see dead if that's your job. I wish I'd watched more than one episode of 'Yes, Minister.' From what I saw, the Minister was an appointed dolt and the real work was done by the professional staff. I would guess, based on other political appointments (ambassadors who don't speak the language of their host country, etc.), that we use the same system. The point of Yes Minister was that whatever the elected polititian tried to do was frustrated by the permanent staff. sometimes because it was a bad idea, sometimes because "we don't do it that way", but usually because it was not in the interest of the civil service. I see. Just like here. Ministers are elected? Well, yes (usually) and no A Minister is Usually an MP and therefore elected to parliment, but appointed a minister. but A Peer (Lord) can also be a Appointed as a Minister and Peers are either appointed (by one of the political parties or for doing good works or long service) or Hereditary (only a few of these are left, and they are elected by the other "Herieditory" Peers) In the case of "Yes Minister" The Minister is an MP apointed by his party leader who is the current PM. though of course in the sequel series Yes Prime minister he has been elected leader of his party, and as his party has a majority in the house of Commons is therefore Prime Minister. There clear as Mud So we might then assume that a Minister has at least some sort of expertise at something, even if it's only getting elected, right? Cronyism wouldn't play a huge part then, right? And a Ministry wouldn't normally be regarded as a sinecure, right? How about Ambassadorships? Ambassadors are as far as I am aware career Civil servants who have worked thier way up through the Diplomatic service. I may be wrong though We do refer to people as "Tony's Cronies" but to get into office as a minister they still have to get elected before they can be appointed. Chris *:-) |
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