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Wanna do a 14ner this New Years Eve or Da
foot2foot wrote:
Sell the tent, boots and crampons and get an avalanch beacon. Make sure your partners do the same. Besides that, get the Avalung, and the inflatable ballon backpack thing. Failing those last two, at least get a probe as well. There's only *one* thing you *really* need, and that's a beacon. The other things you really need are a probe and a shovel. Clothes are but a luxury. Whoa, let's slow down a little here. An avy beacon is useless if 1) your partner doesn't have one (and is proficient using it), and 2) your beacon-proficient partner doesn't have a shovel. The probe is a close third, but again, if your partner doesn't have a shovel, the probe won't be much good - except maybe as a marker for the body-recovery crew. The avalung and inflatable balloon backpack thing are debatable items. Hey, how about an avy-rescue dog? Those are handy. But let's back up a little for OP Ken. The partners/beacons/shovels/probes kit (and practice) could be a good idea if the approach covers or passes under ground that exceeds 20 degrees in slope. I'm not that familiar with all the '14ners' but there might be some you could get to without going through avy terrain. Keeping in mind that Colorado is some of the most avalanche-prone terrain in the US, Ken and his potential partners would do well to be trained a bit about avalanches and terrain before they go (and maybe they are), but it sounds like a lovely way to spend NYE. Also Ken, I'll x-post your question in rec.skiing.backcountry. Bob "Ken Reed" wrote in message om... I would like very much to join a team that is planning to do a 14ner this New Year's Eve or Day. I have done 17 14ners so far, but they have all been summer ascents. I have done some bigger mountains(Pico de Orizaba(18,700 feet), Mexico; Chopicalqui(20,828 feet), Peru) that required snow and ice work. I am also an avid 5.9-5.10 sport climber. I have read of epic climbs of the Diamond on Long's New Year's Day. That is NOT what I am looking for. I'm thinking something relatively easy and safe, like Quandry or Shavano(hopefully something I haven't already done). I have most of the equipment I need, including a Walrus Expedition tent, snow shovel, ice axe, plastic boots, crampons, etc. I lack snow shoes, skiis, and a zero degree fahrenheit bag. I am hoping we won't need avalanche beacons 'cause the route will be so safe. If you have a team or want to form one, please contact me. Thanks, Ken Reed paka.reed@p... |
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On Tue, 30 Sep 2003, Bob Lee wrote:
avalung and inflatable balloon backpack thing are debatable items. Hey, how about an avy-rescue dog? Those are handy. Too funny... Every once in a blue moon I ski with my roomate; his Husky is quite proficient as a rescue dog (or so I've been assured). Problem is: the damned thing hates me, so I doubt its utility. |
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B. Cooke typed: On Tue, 30 Sep 2003, Bob Lee wrote: avalung and inflatable balloon backpack thing are debatable items. Hey, how about an avy-rescue dog? Those are handy. Too funny... Every once in a blue moon I ski with my roomate; his Husky is quite proficient as a rescue dog (or so I've been assured). Problem is: the damned thing hates me, so I doubt its utility. Sorry to be an ignorant Brit, but what is a 14ner, apart from a very succseful conker? -- Chris *:-) Downhill Good, Uphill BAD! www.suffolkvikings.org.uk |
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B. Cooke wrote:
Too funny... Every once in a blue moon I ski with my roomate; his Husky is quite proficient as a rescue dog (or so I've been assured). Problem is: the damned thing hates me, so I doubt its utility. i don't believe in the rescue qualities of a husky. they're good for 2 things: running and eating ;-) in andermatt because of their resistence they tried to train them as rescue dogs, but they didn't learn anything. greetings, ulrich |
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MoonMan wrote:
In , B. Cooke typed: On Tue, 30 Sep 2003, Bob Lee wrote: avalung and inflatable balloon backpack thing are debatable items. Hey, how about an avy-rescue dog? Those are handy. Too funny... Every once in a blue moon I ski with my roomate; his Husky is quite proficient as a rescue dog (or so I've been assured). Problem is: the damned thing hates me, so I doubt its utility. Sorry to be an ignorant Brit, but what is a 14ner, apart from a very succseful conker? A 14ner is one of the 14,000 foot peaks in the contiguous United States. (I believe "contiguous" is part of the definition - usually the Alaskan and Hawaiian 14,000+ peaks are not included? Correct?) BTW Collyradicans misbelieve that they have cornered the market on 14ners, and so assume when speaking of 14ners - as usual, they are incorrect. |
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"Kurt Knisely" wrote I can visualize the headlines now... "Man rescued by dog, bleeds to death from bites" Or how about... climber found dead beneath mound of yellow snow? DMT |
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lal_truckee wrote:
A 14ner is one of the 14,000 foot peaks in the contiguous United States. (I believe "contiguous" is part of the definition - usually the Alaskan and Hawaiian 14,000+ peaks are not included? Correct?) BTW Collyradicans misbelieve that they have cornered the market on 14ners, and so assume when speaking of 14ners - as usual, they are incorrect. Just like Texans. They never talk about Alaska either. -Mike |
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Dingus Milktoast wrote:
"Kurt Knisely" wrote I can visualize the headlines now... "Man rescued by dog, bleeds to death from bites" Or how about... climber found dead beneath mound of yellow snow? And she said, with a tear in her eye "Watch out where the huskies go" |
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On Wed, 1 Oct 2003 17:44:56 GMT, Mike Garrison
wrote: lal_truckee wrote: A 14ner is one of the 14,000 foot peaks in the contiguous United States. (I believe "contiguous" is part of the definition - usually the Alaskan and Hawaiian 14,000+ peaks are not included? Correct?) BTW Collyradicans misbelieve that they have cornered the market on 14ners, and so assume when speaking of 14ners - as usual, they are incorrect. Just like Texans. They never talk about Alaska either. Telling Coloradans they are just like Texans in some way should get amusing. Happy trails, Gary (net.yogi.bear) ------------------------------------------------ at the 51st percentile of ursine intelligence Gary D. Schwartz, Needham, MA, USA Please reply to: garyDOTschwartzATpoboxDOTcom |
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"Bob Lee" wrote in message ... MoonMan wrote: Sorry to be an ignorant Brit, but what is a 14ner, apart from a very succseful conker? No problem with the Brit-ness, and now that lal answered your question, what's a conker? Bob I bet I already know...I just want to see what you say. Well, I don't, so thank you for asking so I don't have to look ignorant. |
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