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What are these equipment for?
I got for Xmas:
Atomic TM:X skis Atomic TM:22 skis Dynafit TLT Comfort bindings (2 pairs) Garmont Mega Ride boots Are all these equipment compatible? Exactly what kind of skiing are they suitable for? What is a good place to use this equipment? I'm in Texas. What kind of poles do I need? This is not a joke. I'm an experienced cross-country skier and an OK alpine skier as well. This stuff seems like a cross between the two. Right? Thanks for enlightening me! PS. No, I cannot return or sell them but I can exchange or supplement the equipment. Please don't ask why... :-) |
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"Peter Steppe" wrote in message
... I got for Xmas: Atomic TM:X skis Atomic TM:22 skis Dynafit TLT Comfort bindings (2 pairs) Garmont Mega Ride boots Are all these equipment compatible? Exactly what kind of skiing are they suitable for? What is a good place to use this equipment? I'm in Texas. What kind of poles do I need? This is not a joke. I'm an experienced cross-country skier and an OK alpine skier as well. This stuff seems like a cross between the two. Right? Thanks for enlightening me! PS. No, I cannot return or sell them but I can exchange or supplement the equipment. Please don't ask why... :-) This alpine touring gear. Sometimes called randonee gear. It is used for backcountry skiing away from lift served areas and track-set/groomed Nordic areas. It's useless in Texas. Send it to me. BobT |
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In article , Peter Steppe wrote: I got for Xmas: Atomic TM:X skis Atomic TM:22 skis Dynafit TLT Comfort bindings (2 pairs) Garmont Mega Ride boots Are all these equipment compatible? _ Yes, somebody likes you a lot.... Those are all very nice bits of gear. You can learm more about all of them here http://www.telemarkski.com/html/rvw_gar01_G1703203.html Exactly what kind of skiing are they suitable for? _ Climb up a mountain and ski down it. You can use them as resort skis if you want, in particular that would be a good setup for places where you hike or climb beyond the lifts. If you don't bash moguls or huck off cliffs Dynafits can be a reasonable resort binding. What is a good place to use this equipment? I'm in Texas. _ Closest is probably Upper New Mexico, anywhere in the mountains of Colorado or Utah would be fine as well. What kind of poles do I need? _ Regular alpine poles will work fine. This is not a joke. I'm an experienced cross-country skier and an OK alpine skier as well. This stuff seems like a cross between the two. Right? - -Exactly. I'd suggest you check out http://www.couloirmag.com/resources/faq.htm http://www.wildsnow.com/ http://www.telemarktips.com/ There's a lot more you need to learn before you can really use that gear effectively and safely. _ Booker C. Bense -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBQd2Pb2TWTAjn5N/lAQFlDAP+KKMqLnp4oVeU3fhOacLVK6BBEU+CbVFP prY1DdNN1LLFHuXOCzcaXezUkhUjMnlT/aSzCbrGxCIig7j9dRRtcKNQvEwFJ6BD Eal60sTqlZuV2X2r/plU+tzwUpmUJAMziPoexBASuzM+nOdihfPjB2Z9m0DgkhRK EJQy4I4Id+g= =mdXI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
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"Booker C. Bense" bbense+rec.skiing.backcountry.Jan.06.05@telemark. slac.stanford.edu wrote in message ... -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- _ Yes, somebody likes you a lot.... Those are all very nice bits of gear. You can learm more about all of them here http://www.telemarkski.com/html/rvw_gar01_G1703203.html Somebody needs company. :-) _ Climb up a mountain and ski down it. You can use them as resort skis if you want, in particular that would be a good setup for places where you hike or climb beyond the lifts. If you don't bash moguls or huck off cliffs Dynafits can be a reasonable resort binding. Are they also intended for backcountry touring where there is deep snow and no tracks? What is a good place to use this equipment? I'm in Texas. _ Closest is probably Upper New Mexico, anywhere in the mountains of Colorado or Utah would be fine as well. Close enough for me. _ Regular alpine poles will work fine. - -Exactly. I'd suggest you check out http://www.couloirmag.com/resources/faq.htm http://www.wildsnow.com/ http://www.telemarktips.com/ There's a lot more you need to learn before you can really use that gear effectively and safely. Thanks a million Booker! Where do I start learning? Any ski schools around for this stuff? Are you talking about the dangers of mountain skiing in general or is there something tricky about this particular kind of equipment/style of skiing? I was also thinking about taking a pair with me when I go trekking to Saariselkä in finnish Lappland in March. http://www.saariselka.fi/eng/ Thanks again. |
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"Peter Steppe" wrote in message ... Thanks a million Booker! Where do I start learning? Any ski schools around for this stuff? Are you talking about the dangers of mountain skiing in general or is there something tricky about this particular kind of equipment/style of skiing? I was also thinking about taking a pair with me when I go trekking to Saariselkä in finnish Lappland in March. http://www.saariselka.fi/eng/ Lappland looks pretty flat -- lots of rolling hills. You could get by with skinny XC skis on trails (and I bet there are a lot of set tracks up there), maybe wider touring skis in unbroken snow. The skis you got are probably too heavy and inflexible for touring in Lappland, if you care to keep up with anybody. Check with a resort up there -- they may be able to rent you all the stuff you need. |
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In article , Peter Steppe wrote: Are they also intended for backcountry touring where there is deep snow and no tracks? _ Yes, you can use them for that although the boots anyway are a bit on the heavy side. Basically, with backcountry skiing you have to make compromises in gear between going up, across and down. That gear is really good for going down, reasonable for up and marginal for across. _ Or more explictly and very roughly, light and short works best for climbing up, long and skinny works best for covering ground and fat and heavy works best for making turns on the way down. _ You'd need either climbing skins or kick wax and if you're used to XC gear, it's very slow and heavy for traveling across the country. It's way more fun on the downhills though, basically those are Alpine skis that allow you to release the heel for walking around with. - -Exactly. I'd suggest you check out http://www.couloirmag.com/resources/faq.htm http://www.wildsnow.com/ http://www.telemarktips.com/ There's a lot more you need to learn before you can really use that gear effectively and safely. Thanks a million Booker! Where do I start learning? Any ski schools around for this stuff? _ Generally, the best place to start would be some kind of backcountry skiing festival. Most mountain guide services will offer classes in backcountry skiing. I'm not very familiar with what's available in Colorado, but I'm sure there are some. Contact Neptune Mountaineering in Boulder, CO to find out more. If you're heading anywhere in the Rockies with that gear it is imperative to get some avalanche education first. Here's a link I found to the kind of classes you should consider: http://www.cmschool.com/avi_skimtn.asp _ I have no experience with that guiding service, but the list is very typical of the kinds of classes offered. _ Another way to started would be to head to somewhere like Taos that has a lot of hike to ski terrain and seeing if you like that kind of thing is a relatively controlled environment. Are you talking about the dangers of mountain skiing in general or is there something tricky about this particular kind of equipment/style of skiing? _ A little of both, mostly a lot of the first. Between the couloir FAQ and www.wildsnow.com, I think most of the basics are covered. I was also thinking about taking a pair with me when I go trekking to Saariselkä in finnish Lappland in March. _ It really depends on the terrain. There is a lot of variablity in the weight/stiffness of boots and the MegaRides are on the stiff/heavy end of the scale. Really good for making turns, but not so good for covering ground. The TM 22 is a great all round ski and the TM X a good crud/powder ski. Dynafits are the lightest AT binding available. _ Booker C. Bense -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBQd3FSmTWTAjn5N/lAQHqNQP/dahzWYOWYPqRlxiKgSy8v7Yxb6QfRA+s V3WM6Hx80og4NW0NpJdIxLKh/l9vRAQ2V799/IIl8R3C4UkNpSt13WuVcY3TxjGJ 2U/aOSemR5a3wDVp4ax7FgPjcd+JHPzdnh5zvWnEA6ZJOy/WS1jN9laiTyS3EROH jQTQTwyWh5g= =LFY0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
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"H.W. Stockman" wrote in message nk.net... http://www.saariselka.fi/eng/ Lappland looks pretty flat -- lots of rolling hills. You could get by with skinny XC skis on trails (and I bet there are a lot of set tracks up there), maybe wider touring skis in unbroken snow. The skis you got are probably too heavy and inflexible for touring in Lappland, if you care to keep up with anybody. Check with a resort up there -- they may be able to rent you all the stuff you need. In fact, follow your own link to he http://www.saariselka.fi/eng/skiing.html http://www.saariselka.fi/eng/skiingtips.html The terrain is one of gentle rolling hills. The resort has something like 200 km of XC trails, at least 98 with set tracks. There is some downhill, so you'll have to decide what you want to do (enough to make the Finns ski-jumping champs). Many of the tracks are illuminated. I'm sure there is a service to tell you if you can rent gear; I'd be damn surprised if there were not. Take a cell phone, and check if you can get coverage on your service; Finland (Nokia!) has ~ 98% coverage. |
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[ Booker C. Bense ]
In article , Peter Steppe wrote: What kind of poles do I need? _ Regular alpine poles will work fine. In loose snow you want bigger baskets, though, so that the pole doesn't just go straight through the snow. I really like leather baskets, but they can be hard to find. Swix makes some that fits on Gipron poles with a bit of persuation, I was delighted to find a few weeks ago. You might also want to consider adjustable poles so that you can hike up with long poles and ski down with short. I hike with 1.35-1.40 m (or more) poles (I XC ski with 1.50), and ski down with 1.23. But you don't _need_ anything other than your regular alpine poles for the first few tests of your new gear. :-) Martin -- "An ideal world is left as an exercise to the reader." -Paul Graham, On Lisp |
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I think I got it. :-)
Looks like this is physically challenging compared to most other forms of skiing and I can't wait to get started. YEEEEEHAAAAA!!! |
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I use Black Diamond telescoping poles with whippets, which are mini ice-axes
built into the grips so you can self arrest if you start sliding on steep hard snow or ice. Coming from a mountaineering background, these are a huge psychological belay, as well as effective. www.bdel.com FWIW, my poles are shorter on the ascent, longer skiing... but everyone works that out for him.herself Scott |
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