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Tua Grande Neige MX vs. Tua Cirque MX
Hello,
What are the main differences? I have the opportunity to buy them cheap... For backcountry (SNS_BC+Salomon_Raid) and telemarking in rolling terrain... TA |
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Peter Clinch wrote: [...] Yep. But I have only choice between TUA Cirque MX, Tua Grande Neige MX and Tua Montet MX. There are Viper MX too, but they were racing skis for hardpack snow - definitely not for backcountry... All of them are unused and cost 10 quid for a pair. According to my researches - Montets require plastic boots so I am thinking rather about Cirque and Grande Neige... Another question is - how to choose the right lenght? I am 182cm/75kg plus backpack (10-15kg). What were the rules 6-7 years ago - mind they are old skis Grande Neige MX are 200cm only. Cirque - 192 and 200cm. Help me, ObiWan, you're my only hope... Regards TA |
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In article , wrote: In article , Peter Clinch wrote: [...] Yep. But I have only choice between TUA Cirque MX, Tua Grande Neige MX and Tua Montet MX. There are Viper MX too, but they were racing skis for hardpack snow - definitely not for backcountry... All of them are unused and cost 10 quid for a pair. _ Pounds or Euros? 10 Euros sounds about right for an unmounted still in the wrapper pair of these skis. According to my researches - Montets require plastic boots so I am thinking rather about Cirque and Grande Neige... _ If I remember correctly, Montets would be okay with a reasonable 3 pin leather boot and cables if you can find such a beast these days. I certainly remember plenty of people skiing on such a setup. Another question is - how to choose the right lenght? I am 182cm/75kg plus backpack (10-15kg). What were the rules 6-7 years ago - mind they are old skis Grande Neige MX are 200cm only. Cirque - 192 and 200cm. _ I think you'd be happier on the shorter skis for making turns. The Cirque was a very highly regarded ski in it's day as well as the Montet MX. The Grande Neige I can remember nothing about. I don't think you could really go too far wrong with any of these skis, they are much more similar than different. Especially in comparision to what's currently in vogue for telemark skis. _ You might try poking around www.archive.org and looking for old reviews on the www.couloir-mag.com website. _ If all else fails buy the red ones, red is always faster... _ Booker C. Bense -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBRGPAkmTWTAjn5N/lAQG2UAQAlbYJSOm8QAc+OVJNZKvfO4LZ5d/F9wQp U2kfaWCSbeM6lLbW/LyQEJfcvu87MCLTmmXwq8MpF2Fo6XWB+DvBB7AcO6qxQuMT h5MRMd8ExctjZXwD/Gf0r6bepp9zr13aOSF7sdaKF1Kf5BtH9tbZdT4J0amZrur6 ND0c7Za8C4E= =If0z -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
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Booker C. Bense bbense+rec.skiing.backcountry.May.11.06@telemark. slac.stanford.edu wrote: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- In article , wrote: Yep. But I have only choice between TUA Cirque MX, Tua Grande Neige MX and Tua Montet MX. There are Viper MX too, but they were racing skis for hardpack snow - definitely not for backcountry... All of them are unused and cost 10 quid for a pair. _ Pounds or Euros? 10 Euros sounds about right for an unmounted still in the wrapper pair of these skis. Euros. But it seems to be dirty cheap anyway... According to my researches - Montets require plastic boots so I am thinking rather about Cirque and Grande Neige... _ If I remember correctly, Montets would be okay with a reasonable 3 pin leather boot and cables if you can find such a beast these days. As I said before - I have spare Salomon_Raids and Salomon_X-Adv_8 with SNS_BC bindings... Another question is - how to choose the right lenght? I am 182cm/75kg plus backpack (10-15kg). What were the rules 6-7 years ago - mind they are old skis Grande Neige MX are 200cm only. Cirque - 192 and 200cm. _ I think you'd be happier on the shorter skis for making turns. Are you sure? In those days I did use 200cm downhill skis. And those TUA are (technologically) like downhill skis from the beginning of the 90. And they are thinner than downhill skis... I'm just asking... The other thing is I want to buy these TUA just for the light backcountry... The Cirque was a very highly regarded ski in it's day as well as the Montet MX. The Grande Neige I can remember nothing about. I don't think you could really go too far wrong with any of these skis, they are much more similar than different. Especially in comparision to what's currently in vogue for telemark skis. _ You might try poking around www.archive.org and looking for old reviews on the www.couloir-mag.com website. I spent last few days on browsing and reading dozens of opinnions. And I still know nothing... :-( I think I'll take Cirque MX - 192... _ If all else fails buy the red ones, red is always faster... I see :-( Regards TA |
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The other thing is I want to buy these TUA just for the light backcountry... Though they were never made for that, so despite them being very cheap I think you'd be better off putting your tenner towards something that will do the job you want to do much better. Probably nothing chunkier than E109s, plus that will hold kick wax. Maybe pick up the Cirques as a pair of don't-matter rock-skis to practice downhill on relatively (by current standards) narrow planks. That what I use mine for (original spec, not the MX). Pete. -- Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK net http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/ |
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In article , wrote: As I said before - I have spare Salomon_Raids and Salomon_X-Adv_8 with SNS_BC bindings... Grande Neige MX are 200cm only. Cirque - 192 and 200cm. _ I think you'd be happier on the shorter skis for making turns. Are you sure? In those days I did use 200cm downhill skis. And those TUA are (technologically) like downhill skis from the beginning of the 90. And they are thinner than downhill skis... I'm just asking... The other thing is I want to buy these TUA just for the light backcountry... _ Definitely go short if you are using SNS_BC boots. Shape and turn wise these skis are very similar to Fischer's current Boundless or Outtabounds. I've got 10Kg on you and I find that my 189 Boundless are plenty of ski for my NNN/BC boots. _ At it's best systems binding/boots offer about an order of magnitude less support and control than even the sloppiest softest plastic alpine boot. Given the boots and intended use, I would get the shortest[1] skinniest pair of Tua's in the shop. InterAlps would be ideal, but they don't seem to be on the list. _ Booker C. Bense [1]- Well probably not shorter than 180cm, but you get the idea. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBRGSNTGTWTAjn5N/lAQH3LQQAj3ELyBCtDXl4XsZHJoAWgPXOoHGH/sYJ UBp5C7JnUOs6kAfU807iK0jlEKwUGwXICRtoEmFNYSCPorWYmi ErbsfDKZVJOJyD CMKke7MTNKzIl+eYoFsT0gnpbL+X8esZ0Rs+dyW5SbzdeTCrJ3 tLB/l1l+wCJ4z9 vGHZgJMk5ZY= =6C39 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
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Hello,
I've just ordered one pair of TUA Cirques MX (192cm) and one pair of Dynastar Montagne Plus (192cm). I hope they will not be too short... Regards TA |
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