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Switzerland/Austria/Italy - where to go ?
Hi all.
After skiing in various resorts in France for the last five years I have made the decision to venture elsewhere. Therefore, I would like to tap into the wealth of knowledge available here as to where I should go. So far I have in mind - Zermatt/Cervinia St Anton Obergurgl Please let me know where I can go for a super week of skiing and not be let down. It's for two people aged in their twenties Thanks |
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Switzerland/Austria/Italy - where to go ?
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Joe Hunt wrote: Zermatt/Cervinia Expensive touristy place. You go here because "It's the Matterhorn." It's history. It has some of the most vertical you can descent via mechanical assistance (trams and trains) in the world bar few. It's more a matter of the location and it's how much time and money you are willing to spend. Other places have better snow, better sun, etc. I think that I've spent 10 days (2 -different 5 day trips in different years with comparatively great weather, but I'll only go there again if I am taking someone who has never been). I can spend money elsewhere. It depends how much you read up on history. It can be done for cheaper (not much, I stayed in a hostel) in shorter time, and I also did overnight over in Italy (worth doing). It's not a place to take beginners. St Anton Just was there. Friends used to live there (Zurs proper). I have mixed opinions about the place. Crowded. I met people I liked (like the place where I stayed) and I didn't like. After noon everything became icy mogul fields (I'm more into cruising). The locals feel that every one should ski the Arlberg method. It is on the main E-W rail line, so you might as well stop (Zermatt is an end of line destination). I did ski both sides of the train tracks but not high due to weather. I need to get back to Lech and Zurs. If you book here, they really want you to stay a week (I sacrificed Austria for more time in Italy). I'll go back some time, and also see and ski more of Austria. Less casual skiing. Areas around Innsbruck seem more fun. I also have to do area Salzberg (relatives of friends). Obergurgl Never been. Give it a go and get back to us. -- |
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Switzerland/Austria/Italy - where to go ?
"Eugene Miya" wrote in message news:4591c6a7$1@darkstar... In article , Joe Hunt wrote: Zermatt/Cervinia Expensive touristy place. You go here because "It's the Matterhorn." It's history. It has some of the most vertical you can descent via mechanical assistance (trams and trains) in the world bar few. It's more a matter of the location and it's how much time and money you are willing to spend. Other places have better snow, better sun, etc. I think that I've spent 10 days (2 -different 5 day trips in different years with comparatively great weather, but I'll only go there again if I am taking someone who has never been). I can spend money elsewhere. It depends how much you read up on history. It can be done for cheaper (not much, I stayed in a hostel) in shorter time, and I also did overnight over in Italy (worth doing). It's not a place to take beginners. St Anton Just was there. Friends used to live there (Zurs proper). I have mixed opinions about the place. Crowded. I met people I liked (like the place where I stayed) and I didn't like. After noon everything became icy mogul fields (I'm more into cruising). The locals feel that every one should ski the Arlberg method. It is on the main E-W rail line, so you might as well stop (Zermatt is an end of line destination). I did ski both sides of the train tracks but not high due to weather. I need to get back to Lech and Zurs. If you book here, they really want you to stay a week (I sacrificed Austria for more time in Italy). I'll go back some time, and also see and ski more of Austria. Less casual skiing. Areas around Innsbruck seem more fun. I also have to do area Salzberg (relatives of friends). Obergurgl Never been. Give it a go and get back to us. -- Thanks Eugene, all points noted. If I pay X to have a week's skiing holiday in Zermatt but can pay X elsewhere to get better skiing and a better experience then it is obviously the latter I prefer ! As it is the last week of March I am looking at, Obergurgl's height certainly has its advantages. Anyone been to Obergurgl who would like ot share their experiences ? Thanks, Joe |
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Switzerland/Austria/Italy - where to go ?
Hi Joe
Anyone been to Obergurgl who would like ot share their experiences ? I was last year mid of april there. Though Obergurgl is a complete tourist orientated village it is relatively calm and intimate. We did not search the nightlive. Though there might be some. Pistes (Obergurgl and Hochgurgl, which are connected) are really great. Not that much black, but enough red and blue pistes. Lift queues were neglectable (in the morning when getting up the hill we had maybe 5 minutes to wait). If you are a very(!) good skiier it might get boring after a week, but for the average skier it is perfect. If you need variety: Soelden is around 30 minutes to drive. Liftserved offpiste is available but not too much (at least while the conditions in April). If you skin up too: there are great backcountry opportunities. If you want to do cross crountry skiing too Obergurgl is a bit limited. Accomodation We were at "Hotel Alpenland". Very nice accomodation, fine wellness area, and incredible good food (btw: they also are able to cook gluten free, without missing anything of the great taste of their meals!) Very polite and nice people. Florian |
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Switzerland/Austria/Italy - where to go ?
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Joe Hunt wrote: Zermatt/Cervinia Expensive touristy place. You go here because "It's the Matterhorn." It's history. It has some 33 lines cut. Thanks Eugene, all points noted. Joe, you don't have to attribute more than a few lines. If I pay X to have a week's skiing holiday in Zermatt but can pay X elsewhere to get better skiing and a better experience then it is obviously the latter I prefer ! You can't place a dollar value on all experiences. I read the story of Whymper's obsession with the Matterhorn and the Zermatt indifference at the time and knew of the industrial tourism since after reading about it 36 years ago. When I visited 7 years, it was a casual end of year off season vacation with a little skiing thrown in. My first run (easy) down at the start of the morning from the Gornergrat was just stunning. I just crashed. I realized that I had to make a choice: was I here to ski or here to sight see? The snow was pretty good. but off the packed piste there were rocks. It was clear. It was the classic view of the thing. It was my first trip to Europe. Little did I know that I'd make something like 7 more trips so far, most of work with some time off. Later I chanced to meet some of the victims' distant relatives. Life there is a business to them; Let them have it. I had similar but less dramatic experiences in Chamonix and the Berner Oberland. The more you read up on these places the more you will get from them. The experience is like Tom Cruise's early comment in Risky Business: It's a Porsche. So the following year, when I chanced to come back and do a little work as well I had your X example: I was in Brig waiting to go to St. Moritz and I had time to kill and it turned out to be a holiday weekend (Friday), so I did a little train riding to get some info for curiosity before a much later train. I ended up changing my plans and spent the weekend in obcure little carless towns only accessible by trams and delaying going to St. Moritz. I had great times in places most tourists never heard of. Anyone been to Obergurgl -- |
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