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Start Map Black and Star Yellow Uniblock
The Tech Tips by Sierra Nordic
( http://www.sierranordic.com/Tech_tips_archives.html ) are excellent. Many of them recommend using Star Map Black and Star Yellow Uniblock for base prepping and waxing, but Star products are not easy for me to purchase locally. Sierra Nordic explains why they recommend these two particular products, but I'm wondering if I can substitute other graphite/anti-static and warm non-silicon paraffin waxes. For example, I have a stick of Start Graphite and a package of Briko Anti-Static Skating Course powder that I won at races. Also, Swix, Toko, Start, and Kuu products are widely available locally. I searched "group:rec.skiing.nordic group:rec.skiing.nordic". Most of the references to the two Star products are by Gene Goldenfeld and Rob Bradlee (in his pre-Toko days), but no substitutes are mentioned. Thanks. Kevin Miller Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada "We have become so attached to the idea of convenience that we will put up with almost any inconvenience to achieve it." Bill Bryson |
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Start Map Black and Star Yellow Uniblock
Not exactly(?) what you're looking for but, Star Wax can be purchased online
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Start Map Black and Star Yellow Uniblock
Sierra Nordic sells Star waxes, thus they are going to promote how to
use them. From a chemical standpoint, it's probaby better, or at least safer and cheaper, to go with one of the product lines you already own and substitute into Noel's instructions accordingly. As a guide, check which companies have tables for the different waxes and conditions. Watch the race day suggestions from the different companies for guidance. Also check the Eagle River Nordic website to see if Bert's wax table is still up and reasonably current. Good luck, Gene Kevin Miller wrote: The Tech Tips by Sierra Nordic ( http://www.sierranordic.com/Tech_tips_archives.html ) are excellent. Many of them recommend using Star Map Black and Star Yellow Uniblock for base prepping and waxing, but Star products are not easy for me to purchase locally. Sierra Nordic explains why they recommend these two particular products, but I'm wondering if I can substitute other graphite/anti-static and warm non-silicon paraffin waxes. For example, I have a stick of Start Graphite and a package of Briko Anti-Static Skating Course powder that I won at races. Also, Swix, Toko, Start, and Kuu products are widely available locally. I searched "group:rec.skiing.nordic group:rec.skiing.nordic". Most of the references to the two Star products are by Gene Goldenfeld and Rob Bradlee (in his pre-Toko days), but no substitutes are mentioned. Thanks. Kevin Miller Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada "We have become so attached to the idea of convenience that we will put up with almost any inconvenience to achieve it." Bill Bryson |
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Start Map Black and Star Yellow Uniblock
Hey Kevin - I'm a huge fan of the Star Map Black. It's one of the toughest
substances known and adds great durability. For a long time I used it very regularly. At this point I go through a whole lot more Toko LF Moly. The Moly is quite a lot softer but for most conditions it provides the base conditioning and dry lubrication that I'm looking for. Also, it saturates the base very nicely in the heatbox where the Map Black is impervious to temperatures that are safe for skis. Finally, for what it's worth, Molybdenum is THE standard for dry shear lubrication. So, I still use Map Black for durability and speed when it's very cold. We used a ton on New England skis at JOs in Fairbanks last season, and we went through a bunch more during the late-week cold-snap in Rumford last week. But for day to day base conditioning I'm really partial to the LF Moly. Incidentally, the Moly and Map Black both work very well as underlayers for waxes from other brands. I've never once had any "compatibility" issues and I've tested various topcoats over these waxes against controls with no underlayers. The Map Black hardens the base enough so that the top-coat range can "drift" downward a bit. That's not the case with the Moly. ZC "Kevin Miller" wrote in message ... The Tech Tips by Sierra Nordic ( http://www.sierranordic.com/Tech_tips_archives.html ) are excellent. Many of them recommend using Star Map Black and Star Yellow Uniblock for base prepping and waxing, but Star products are not easy for me to purchase locally. Sierra Nordic explains why they recommend these two particular products, but I'm wondering if I can substitute other graphite/anti-static and warm non-silicon paraffin waxes. For example, I have a stick of Start Graphite and a package of Briko Anti-Static Skating Course powder that I won at races. Also, Swix, Toko, Start, and Kuu products are widely available locally. I searched "group:rec.skiing.nordic group:rec.skiing.nordic". Most of the references to the two Star products are by Gene Goldenfeld and Rob Bradlee (in his pre-Toko days), but no substitutes are mentioned. Thanks. Kevin Miller Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada "We have become so attached to the idea of convenience that we will put up with almost any inconvenience to achieve it." Bill Bryson |
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