Off season training

So, my girlfriend is convincing me that I need to go to the gym. I'm 6'2
and 140lbs. I'm of the impression that I don't particularly need to go to
the gym but she'd like to have me there to better myself. So I'm wondering
what should I work on for the upcoming season? I don't have a lot of upper
body strength so I'm already working on that. I have a lot of lower body
strength from a lot of biking/rollerblading/running.

I imagine calves and quads would be a good place to start, I know when
you're trying to hold the toe-side edge and you're traversing the whole
mountain to get to a different lift all because someone didn't set up the
routes well, it starts to burn. Anything else I should concentrate on? Any
help would be appreciated.

-Bruce "snow-season-can't-get-here-fast-enough" Chang

Bruce Chang wrote:

So, my girlfriend is convincing me that I need to go to the gym. I'm 6'2
and 140lbs.

6'2" and 140? Dude, you need to eat, you're at least 15 lbs under a
minimum healthy weight. Any gym time you put in will not do you much
good when you're starving yourself. I recommend misc.fitness.weights as
a good resource for packing on some muscle.

Neil

"Neil Gendzwill" wrote in message
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Bruce Chang wrote:

So, my girlfriend is convincing me that I need to go to the gym. I'm
6'2
and 140lbs.

6'2" and 140? Dude, you need to eat, you're at least 15 lbs under a
minimum healthy weight. Any gym time you put in will not do you much
good when you're starving yourself. I recommend misc.fitness.weights as
a good resource for packing on some muscle.

Neil




Don't worry, I eat my fair share. I eat more than all my friends in my
Bible study group and they range from 135 to 220. I eat considerably more
at that. The weight just never sticks. Thanks for the tip on another NG.

My original question still stands.. Any particular muscle groups I need to
work on for a better ride on the slopes this year?

Bruce Chang wrote:


The weight just never sticks.

Then eat more. I mean, if you're serious about getting stronger for
riding. Try using www.fitday.com to track your calories in and out, be
sure to account for all the cycling and running you do. I've seen
several people of your proportions ask for similar advice at m.f.w.,
inevitably they simply aren't eating enough.

My original question still stands.. Any particular muscle groups I need to
work on for a better ride on the slopes this year?

Primarily lower body, but I think overall you'd be best off with a
whole-body exercise concentrating on lower body. Squats and deads are
the two most recommended exercises over at m.f.w. For
snowboard-specific exercises you can do wall sits (back against the
wall, legs at 90 degrees, hold for as long as possible) and box jumps
(jump on and off a sturdy 18" box).

There are some snowboard-specific training advice web pages out there,
see http://www.together.net/~ronjav/sbtp/ and
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip...ing/snowb1.htm

Neil

On Thu, 05 Aug 2004 16:26:59 GMT, Neil Gendzwill
allegedly wrote:

The weight just never sticks.

Then eat more.

Not everyones metabolism lets them put on weight. Some people are
naturally skinny. Just eating for the sake of it isn't a good thing,
especially if that leads to a disproportional increase in body fat.

- Dave.

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Switters wrote:

On Thu, 05 Aug 2004 16:26:59 GMT, Neil Gendzwill
allegedly wrote:


The weight just never sticks.

Then eat more.


Not everyones metabolism lets them put on weight. Some people are
naturally skinny. Just eating for the sake of it isn't a good thing,
especially if that leads to a disproportional increase in body fat.

He wants to get stronger. If he eats right, and puts in the gym time,
he will add more muscle than fat. People who are naturally skinny have
higher metabolisms or lower appetites or both, but they aren't immune to
biology. In fact, if he actually counted calories (both intake and
expended) he may well be surprised. There's also a difference between
being slim and being unhealthily skinny. This guy's BMI is 18. If he's
into a lot of cycling, odds are his bodyfat is way too low.

Anyways, I'm not the expert on this stuff. Google misc.fitness.weights
for pretty much anything by Lyle McDonald. He's rude, but extremely
knowledgable. You can also try his website bodyrecomposition.com.
Other good people to listen to on mfw are Keith Hobman, Elzi or Krista.

Here's a thread in response to someone in pretty much the same
situation: http://tinyurl.com/6al6t

Neil

"Neil Gendzwill" wrote in message
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Switters wrote:

On Thu, 05 Aug 2004 16:26:59 GMT, Neil Gendzwill
allegedly wrote:


The weight just never sticks.

Then eat more.


Not everyones metabolism lets them put on weight. Some people are
naturally skinny. Just eating for the sake of it isn't a good thing,
especially if that leads to a disproportional increase in body fat.

He wants to get stronger. If he eats right, and puts in the gym time,
he will add more muscle than fat. People who are naturally skinny have
higher metabolisms or lower appetites or both, but they aren't immune to
biology. In fact, if he actually counted calories (both intake and
expended) he may well be surprised. There's also a difference between
being slim and being unhealthily skinny. This guy's BMI is 18. If he's
into a lot of cycling, odds are his bodyfat is way too low.

Anyways, I'm not the expert on this stuff. Google misc.fitness.weights
for pretty much anything by Lyle McDonald. He's rude, but extremely
knowledgable. You can also try his website bodyrecomposition.com.
Other good people to listen to on mfw are Keith Hobman, Elzi or Krista.

Here's a thread in response to someone in pretty much the same
situation: http://tinyurl.com/6al6t

Neil



I'm skinny but not unhealthy. I read the thread and this guy eats way less
than I do. He posted this:

...My diet right now:

2 Bowls of cereal, 1 egg. Orange Juice.
2 Slices of bread with some cheese, Milk with protein mix.
1 Apple.
1 Medium Bowl of Pasta.

In college, I played soccer and as I exercised and ran and played I ate more
and slept more and I didn't gain weight. I lost body fat that was replaced
with muscle. I do need to do more weight training to build muscle mass;
I'll be bringing that up with my personal trainer.

-Bruce

Bruce Chang wrote:

In college, I played soccer and as I exercised and ran and played I ate more
and slept more and I didn't gain weight. I lost body fat that was replaced
with muscle. I do need to do more weight training to build muscle mass;
I'll be bringing that up with my personal trainer.

OK, well you've got all the references. If you want a sanity check on
what the PT tells you, post the routines on mfw for comment. Good luck!

Neil

"Switters" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 05 Aug 2004 16:26:59 GMT, Neil Gendzwill
allegedly wrote:

The weight just never sticks.

Then eat more.

Not everyones metabolism lets them put on weight. Some people are
naturally skinny. Just eating for the sake of it isn't a good thing,
especially if that leads to a disproportional increase in body fat.

- Dave.

--
The only powder to get high on, falls from the sky.
http://www.vpas.org/ - Snowboarding the worlds pow pow -
Securing your e-mail

The Snowboard FAQ lives here - http://rssFAQ.org/

If eating doesn't help him put on weight, then he should drink more!! Works
for me anyway!!


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Hi Bruce,

I am 6'1" and once weighed in at 145-155.
Isometrics changed this for me. It is why you have some leg muscle, but
little on top.
Bench, Lat's, Squats.... If you keep with a regiment of 3 times a week
for at least 1/2 hour (1 hour preferable), your progress in 3 months
will scare most at the gym (well, I did anyways...)

Low reps (10 max), Heavy weight, spotter is a must.

But it is great to eat tons and not gain a pound isn't it... :-)

Your girl friend may not like all the attention you will start to get,
it happens! It was an eye opener for me.

Regards

Chris


Bruce Chang wrote:

So, my girlfriend is convincing me that I need to go to the gym. I'm 6'2
and 140lbs. I'm of the impression that I don't particularly need to go to
the gym but she'd like to have me there to better myself. So I'm wondering
what should I work on for the upcoming season? I don't have a lot of upper
body strength so I'm already working on that. I have a lot of lower body
strength from a lot of biking/rollerblading/running.

I imagine calves and quads would be a good place to start, I know when
you're trying to hold the toe-side edge and you're traversing the whole
mountain to get to a different lift all because someone didn't set up the
routes well, it starts to burn. Anything else I should concentrate on? Any
help would be appreciated.

-Bruce "snow-season-can't-get-here-fast-enough" Chang