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Why only ski Europe?
Paul S wrote:
"MoonMan" wrote in message ... Dymphna wrote: The Alps are small compared to the Rockies. But the resorts are so much smaller in the rockies! I'm just back from "the biggest resort in the Rockies", Lake Louise and it has 10 lifts, how many lifts has Tigne for example got? Mmmm, not sure that I'd choose a resort by the number of lifts. In my limited exposure to North American resorts there seems to be a completely different arrangement of lifts versus runs compared to Europe. On the whole each lift in America seems to lead to about 3 or 4 times as many runs. It's a generalisation, but I'd say that more runs per lift indicates a less busy resort. If you've got one lift feeding many runs then, inevitably, the runs will be quieter - I'd say this is a good thing. In a way true, but in fact misleading, North American resorts seem to think the More numbered / Named runs the better so what would be one run in Europe may have 10 or eleven different numbers / names in North America, often split horizontally by where on the top you start and sometimes verticaly. Don't get me wrong, I like skiing in Canada, but just remember the resorts are small. -- Chris *:-) |
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Ok, I went and looked at the biggest in Montana - Big Sky - here are some stats. Tried to get the pictures of different trails, but it doesn't seem to want to post. MOUNTAIN STATS *Elevation* Summit (Lone Peak) - 11,166 feet Base (Mountain Village) - 7,500 feet Base (Lone Moose) - 6,800 feet *Ski Terrain* 3,812 acres - 150 named runs covering over 85 miles on three separate mountains. *Slope Difficulty* 20% expert 40% advanced 26% intermediate 14% beginner *Vertical Drop* 4,350 feet *Longest Run* Liberty Bowl to Mountain Mall - 6 miles *Average Lift Line* Consistently recognized in national ski magazines for short or non-existent lines. *Average Winter Daytime Temperature* 20 degrees F *Average Annual Snowfall* 400+ inches *Lift Capacity* 23,000 skiers per hour *Ski Season Opens* November 27, 2008 *Ski Season Ends* April 12, 2009 It then has a village at the bottom to supply what ever you need for staying there. Everything from hotels to bungalows of different star ratings. -- Dymphna Message Origin: TRAVEL.com |
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Why only ski Europe?
This is a smaller mountain near me. Red Lodge Mountain: SEASON: November 28, 2008 – April 12, 2009 HOURS OF OPERATION Upper Mtn: 9am - 3:30pm Lower Mtn: 9am - 4pm VERTICAL DROP: 2,400 Feet Base Elevation: 7,016 Feet Summit Elevation: 9,416 Feet *LIFTS* · 2 High-Speed Detachable Quads · 4 Double Chairs · 1 Triple Chair · 1 Magic Carpet LIFT CAPACITY 10,690 skiers per hour TRAILS · 73 trails and groomed slopes · 30 acres extreme chute skiing · 60 acres gladed tree skiing · 1600 acres on Custer National Forest TRAIL DIFFICULTY · 14% Beginner · 29% Intermediate · 34% Advanced · 23% Expert LONGEST RUN "Lazy M" is 2.5 miles long AVERAGE SNOWFALL: 250" AVERAGE TEMPERATU 31º F SNOWMAKING · Full coverage on 31% of trails · Largest in the Northern Rockies CHILDREN'S PROGRAMS · Daycare for 18 months to 4 yrs · Ski programs for kids 3-12 FACILITIES ON THE MOUNTAIN · Central Reservations · Mountain Gift Shoppe · PSIA Certified Instructors · Complete Ski Rental & Repair · 1 Full Service Restaurant · 2 Bars · 2 Cafeterias · Day Care Center · Terrain Park -- Dymphna Message Origin: TRAVEL.com |
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Why only ski Europe?
On Mon, 16 Mar 2009 16:19:19 -0500, Dymphna
wrote: Ok, I went and looked at the biggest in Montana - Big Sky - here are some stats. Tried to get the pictures of different trails, but it doesn't seem to want to post. MOUNTAIN STATS *Elevation* Summit (Lone Peak) - 11,166 feet Base (Mountain Village) - 7,500 feet Base (Lone Moose) - 6,800 feet So, less than 4500 ft, 1500m, of vertical. Not impressed. *Ski Terrain* 3,812 acres - 150 named runs covering over 85 miles on three separate mountains. So, tiny then. Big resorts in the alps tend towards 500km of pistes, that's to say 300 miles of groomed trails, and off-piste (ungroomed, i.e. backcountry) runs aren't counted, even if they have a name. *Slope Difficulty* 20% expert 40% advanced 26% intermediate 14% beginner And? *Longest Run* Liberty Bowl to Mountain Mall - 6 miles Hehe. You really think that's long? Snipped the rest, as they're all irrelevant. I'm not sure if you actually think you're trying to advertise your local hills, but you are certainly doing a good job of coming across as a bit of a fool, who's clearly no idea what skiing in Europe is about. |
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Dymphna wrote in
news FACILITIES ON THE MOUNTAIN - Central Reservations Only relevant on two-way pistes, surely? -- Jeremy R1200RT |
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Why only ski Europe?
On Mon, 16 Mar 2009 22:47:20 GMT, Ace allegedly
wrote: So, less than 4500 ft, 1500m, of vertical. Not impressed. I'd already thought this from the very first post. I'm not sure by which dimension he's considering the Alps as smaller than the Rockies. Perhaps in the number of degrees latitude they span. |
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Why only ski Europe?
MoonMan wrote:
Dymphna wrote: The Alps are small compared to the Rockies. But the resorts are so much smaller in the rockies! I'm just back from "the biggest resort in the Rockies", Lake Louise and it has 10 lifts, how many lifts has Tigne for example got? Lake Louise is indeed a tiny resort, but Whistler, (which IIRC is also in the Rockies) is much larger and would consitute a mid sized resort, such as Les Sept Laux, in Europe. When I visited Lake Louise only 7 lifts were actually running. So you did 43% better than me! If it did not have one of the most impressive hotels in the world no one would have heard of Lake Louise. As the other posters have pointed out teh number of runs mentioned at Candadian resorts is a bit of a joke. To me it appears that if you are skiing down a run and there is a tree in the middle of the piste then the parts to the left and right will have different names and signage. But it is different and it is fun - and you get plenty of time to read on the bus. John |
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Why only ski Europe?
Ace wrote:
On Mon, 16 Mar 2009 16:19:19 -0500, Dymphna wrote: Ok, I went and looked at the biggest in Montana - Big Sky - here are some stats. Tried to get the pictures of different trails, but it doesn't seem to want to post. MOUNTAIN STATS *Elevation* Summit (Lone Peak) - 11,166 feet Base (Mountain Village) - 7,500 feet Base (Lone Moose) - 6,800 feet So, less than 4500 ft, 1500m, of vertical. Not impressed. *Ski Terrain* 3,812 acres - 150 named runs covering over 85 miles on three separate mountains. So, tiny then. Big resorts in the alps tend towards 500km of pistes, that's to say 300 miles of groomed trails, and off-piste (ungroomed, i.e. backcountry) runs aren't counted, even if they have a name. *Slope Difficulty* 20% expert 40% advanced 26% intermediate 14% beginner And? *Longest Run* Liberty Bowl to Mountain Mall - 6 miles Hehe. You really think that's long? Snipped the rest, as they're all irrelevant. I'm not sure if you actually think you're trying to advertise your local hills, but you are certainly doing a good job of coming across as a bit of a fool, who's clearly no idea what skiing in Europe is about. What are these feet things? |
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Why only ski Europe?
john elgy wrote:
MoonMan wrote: Dymphna wrote: The Alps are small compared to the Rockies. But the resorts are so much smaller in the rockies! I'm just back from "the biggest resort in the Rockies", Lake Louise and it has 10 lifts, how many lifts has Tigne for example got? Lake Louise is indeed a tiny resort, but Whistler, (which IIRC is also in the Rockies) is much larger and would consitute a mid sized resort, such as Les Sept Laux, in Europe. When I visited Lake Louise only 7 lifts were actually running. So you did 43% better than me! If it did not have one of the most impressive hotels in the world no one would have heard of Lake Louise. As the other posters have pointed out teh number of runs mentioned at Candadian resorts is a bit of a joke. To me it appears that if you are skiing down a run and there is a tree in the middle of the piste then the parts to the left and right will have different names and signage. But it is different and it is fun - and you get plenty of time to read on the bus. John Apparently Lake Louise is technicaly bigger than Whistler (According to RCR, Lake Louise's operating company) the theory is that Lake Louise is one resort whereas Whistler (Which is almost twice as big) is actually two resorts, Whistler and Blackcomb each of which are smaller than Lake Louise. We decided, once we had walked across the lake and looked back, that from a distance the Château looks more like a prison than a hotel. Oh, and a warning, if you stay in Lake Louise, transfers to Sunshine are only available on Sundays and Thursdays and Transfers to Norquay are only available on Tuesdays and then only if you book at least two days in advance. -- Chris *:-) |
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Why only ski Europe?
john elgy wrote:
Ace wrote: On Mon, 16 Mar 2009 16:19:19 -0500, Dymphna wrote: Ok, I went and looked at the biggest in Montana - Big Sky - here are some stats. Tried to get the pictures of different trails, but it doesn't seem to want to post. MOUNTAIN STATS *Elevation* Summit (Lone Peak) - 11,166 feet Base (Mountain Village) - 7,500 feet Base (Lone Moose) - 6,800 feet So, less than 4500 ft, 1500m, of vertical. Not impressed. *Ski Terrain* 3,812 acres - 150 named runs covering over 85 miles on three separate mountains. So, tiny then. Big resorts in the alps tend towards 500km of pistes, that's to say 300 miles of groomed trails, and off-piste (ungroomed, i.e. backcountry) runs aren't counted, even if they have a name. *Slope Difficulty* 20% expert 40% advanced 26% intermediate 14% beginner And? *Longest Run* Liberty Bowl to Mountain Mall - 6 miles Hehe. You really think that's long? Snipped the rest, as they're all irrelevant. I'm not sure if you actually think you're trying to advertise your local hills, but you are certainly doing a good job of coming across as a bit of a fool, who's clearly no idea what skiing in Europe is about. What are these feet things? The things on the end of your legs? |
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