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Old March 11th 08, 11:44 AM posted to rec.skiing.resorts.europe
Matt T
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Lots of it! With more forecast into next week!

Anyone holding off for that last minute deal - go book it now *. I
think there's a lot of fun to be had over the next fortnight, as long
as the wind doesn't blow all the powder into Italy.

Matt

* - zero isotherm's going to be around 1400-1800M in the Savoie, so
choose wisely...
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Old March 11th 08, 11:55 AM posted to rec.skiing.resorts.europe
Le Dieu
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"Matt T" wrote in message
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Lots of it! With more forecast into next week!

Anyone holding off for that last minute deal - go book it now *. I
think there's a lot of fun to be had over the next fortnight, as long
as the wind doesn't blow all the powder into Italy.

Matt

* - zero isotherm's going to be around 1400-1800M in the Savoie, so
choose wisely...



Um, what does this last bit mean?

How do you think La Plagne will be next week?

Cheers.


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Old March 11th 08, 12:50 PM posted to rec.skiing.resorts.europe
Ace[_2_]
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On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 11:55:26 GMT, in
, "Le Dieu"
wrote:


"Matt T" wrote in message
...
Lots of it! With more forecast into next week!


* - zero isotherm's going to be around 1400-1800M in the Savoie, so
choose wisely...



Um, what does this last bit mean?


Below that height the snow will be melting.

How do you think La Plagne will be next week?


Should be fine, based on that.

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Old March 11th 08, 01:01 PM posted to rec.skiing.resorts.europe
Le Dieu
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"Ace" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 11:55:26 GMT, in
, "Le Dieu"
wrote:


"Matt T" wrote in message
...
Lots of it! With more forecast into next week!


* - zero isotherm's going to be around 1400-1800M in the Savoie, so
choose wisely...



Um, what does this last bit mean?


Below that height the snow will be melting.

How do you think La Plagne will be next week?


Should be fine, based on that.



Excellent, ta.



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Old March 11th 08, 01:31 PM posted to rec.skiing.resorts.europe
Roger Moss
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"Le Dieu" wrote in message
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"Ace" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 11:55:26 GMT, in
, "Le Dieu"
wrote:


"Matt T" wrote in message
...
Lots of it! With more forecast into next week!


* - zero isotherm's going to be around 1400-1800M in the Savoie, so
choose wisely...


Um, what does this last bit mean?


Below that height the snow will be melting.


Or:

Below that line the snow will be... rain :-(

RM
www.mountainpassions.com - an Online Magazine with Altitude

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Old March 11th 08, 01:38 PM posted to rec.skiing.resorts.europe
Ace[_2_]
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On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 14:31:41 +0100, in ,
"Roger Moss" wrote:


"Le Dieu" wrote in message
...

"Ace" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 11:55:26 GMT, in
, "Le Dieu"
wrote:


"Matt T" wrote in message
...
Lots of it! With more forecast into next week!

* - zero isotherm's going to be around 1400-1800M in the Savoie, so
choose wisely...


Um, what does this last bit mean?

Below that height the snow will be melting.


Or:

Below that line the snow will be... rain :-(


Not strictly speaking. The rain/snow limit is often quite diffreent
from the zero-degree mark. Usually much lower, so one can still get
significant accumulation of snow very much lower than the 0 degree
line.

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Old March 12th 08, 08:54 AM posted to rec.skiing.resorts.europe
john elgy
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Ace wrote:
On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 14:31:41 +0100, in ,
"Roger Moss" wrote:


"Le Dieu" wrote in message
...

"Ace" wrote in message
...

On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 11:55:26 GMT, in
, "Le Dieu"
wrote:


"Matt T" wrote in message
...

Lots of it! With more forecast into next week!

* - zero isotherm's going to be around 1400-1800M in the Savoie, so
choose wisely...


Um, what does this last bit mean?

Below that height the snow will be melting.


Or:

Below that line the snow will be... rain :-(



Not strictly speaking. The rain/snow limit is often quite diffreent
from the zero-degree mark. Usually much lower, so one can still get
significant accumulation of snow very much lower than the 0 degree
line.

It is not even a fixed or necessarily positive difference. I have seen
snow at 4 degrees (let's ignore hail in the summer), whhich normally is
a 600m difference. Nauturally it tends not to last once the storm has
passed.
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Old March 12th 08, 09:24 AM posted to rec.skiing.resorts.europe
Roger Moss
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"john elgy" wrote in message
...
Ace wrote:
On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 14:31:41 +0100, in ,
"Roger Moss" wrote:


"Le Dieu" wrote in message
...

"Ace" wrote in message
m...

On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 11:55:26 GMT, in
, "Le Dieu"
wrote:


"Matt T" wrote in message
...

Lots of it! With more forecast into next week!

* - zero isotherm's going to be around 1400-1800M in the Savoie, so
choose wisely...


Um, what does this last bit mean?

Below that height the snow will be melting.


Or:

Below that line the snow will be... rain :-(



Not strictly speaking. The rain/snow limit is often quite diffreent
from the zero-degree mark. Usually much lower, so one can still get
significant accumulation of snow very much lower than the 0 degree
line.

It is not even a fixed or necessarily positive difference. I have seen
snow at 4 degrees (let's ignore hail in the summer), whhich normally is a
600m difference. Nauturally it tends not to last once the storm has
passed.


Proof of our old friend the Wind-Chill Factor having its effect?

First time I went to Tremblant (Quebec) the mountain-top temp was -25C, to
which they had to factor in a further wind-chill of -20C.

As a result of which I can tell you that -45C feels a bit nippy...

RM
www.mountainpassions.com - an Online Magazine with Altitude

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Old March 12th 08, 11:26 AM posted to rec.skiing.resorts.europe
john elgy
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Roger Moss wrote:

"john elgy" wrote in message
...

Ace wrote:

On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 14:31:41 +0100, in ,
"Roger Moss" wrote:


"Le Dieu" wrote in message
...

"Ace" wrote in message
...

On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 11:55:26 GMT, in
, "Le Dieu"

wrote:


"Matt T" wrote in message
...


Lots of it! With more forecast into next week!


* - zero isotherm's going to be around 1400-1800M in the Savoie, so
choose wisely...



Um, what does this last bit mean?


Below that height the snow will be melting.


Or:

Below that line the snow will be... rain :-(



Not strictly speaking. The rain/snow limit is often quite diffreent
from the zero-degree mark. Usually much lower, so one can still get
significant accumulation of snow very much lower than the 0 degree
line.

It is not even a fixed or necessarily positive difference. I have seen
snow at 4 degrees (let's ignore hail in the summer), whhich normally
is a 600m difference. Nauturally it tends not to last once the storm
has passed.


Proof of our old friend the Wind-Chill Factor having its effect?

First time I went to Tremblant (Quebec) the mountain-top temp was -25C,
to which they had to factor in a further wind-chill of -20C.

As a result of which I can tell you that -45C feels a bit nippy...

RM
www.mountainpassions.com - an Online Magazine with Altitude

I am not sure what wind chill has to do with it. Wind chill is the
ability of moving air to remove heat from a cooler body. If the air temp
is above freezing the snow will melt and the stronger the wind the
faster it will melt.

The snow below the zero isotherm is because it was formed above that
height and has not melted before reaching the ground. The greater the
intensity of snow (due to the latent heat of thawing, requiring more
heat to melt the greater volume of snow as it falls) and colder the
clouds, the lower the snow level will be.
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Old March 12th 08, 11:31 AM posted to rec.skiing.resorts.europe
john elgy
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I am not sure what wind chill has to do with it. Wind chill is the
ability of moving air to remove heat from a cooler body. If the air temp
is above freezing the snow will melt and the stronger the wind the
faster it will melt.


I meant to say warmer body of course

The snow below the zero isotherm is because it was formed above that
height and has not melted before reaching the ground. The greater the
intensity of snow (due to the latent heat of thawing, requiring more
heat to melt the greater volume of snow as it falls) and colder the
clouds, the lower the snow level will be.

 




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