Efficient glide waxing...

wear dirty glasses when you clean next time. beauty and/or cleanliness
is in the eye of the beholder.
"it is in a dark time that the eye begins to see". goethe.
bill

On 15 Mar 2005 08:08:32 -0500, wrote:


How long should it take to clean and
wax a pair of skate skiing for basic
training?

This time of year, with the dirty snow,
it takes me almost an hour. I must be
doing something wrong. The skis start out
very dirty, and it takes two or more soft
warm waxings before the scraped wax is just
a light grey.

Any tips?

Do you wipe them down as a first step?

Do you try to get up some of the old wax before putting any more on the ski?

Ben

wrote:
How long should it take to clean and
wax a pair of skate skiing for basic
training?

This time of year, with the dirty snow,
it takes me almost an hour.

Whoa! For training, I don't mind resistance! I rarely do a cleaning wax
step for training. Or maybe just one clean, then hotscrape then put on
wax of the week, then let sit for a couple minutes and buff/brush.

I probably take 45 min to prep race skis. And 10 min to get ready for
training.

I suppose I training-waxed once a week when actively racing every
weekend (then race wax night before). Maybe when I was full-on, I'd wax
every other day, depending on general weather. Skis do love the wax.
Now that I'm racing only a couple times a season I wax about twice a
season for training. I still ski almost every day. My race skis are
almost always better than those I'm skiing with---but not as good as
the winners! It might be because I'm always racing on 10+-yr-old skis
that have lots of wax even though not waxed that often. Back when I
really cared I did indeed notice that my high-end rivals had wax-rooms
that looked like Silicon Valley clean-rooms.

wrote:
How long should it take to clean and
wax a pair of skate skiing for basic
training?

This time of year, with the dirty snow,
it takes me almost an hour. I must be
doing something wrong. The skis start out
very dirty, and it takes two or more soft
warm waxings before the scraped wax is just
a light grey.

Try brushing them with a copper or soft brass brush before waxing.
Sometimes I've even scrubbed the bases with a wet rag first, to get
dirt off. That and brushing before waxing take only a minute or two and
can help.

JFT

On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 wrote:

Back when I
really cared I did indeed notice that my high-end rivals had wax-rooms
that looked like Silicon Valley clean-rooms.

Wax room that looks like a clean room? Wow. Mine looks more like
the kitchen in one of those movies where Dad and the kids try to
surprise Mom with breakfast in bed!

It's not clear what you do, so here's one suggestion: Brush w/ a copper
or soft metal brush, as suggested, so that the structure is clearly
visible. Wipe. Iron in base prep or a wax one temp range up from what
you're using to clean. Wipe while molten or scrape and brush w/in 5
minutes. Iron in the wax of the day, wait 20 minutes, scrape and
brush. Noel at Sierra Nordic claims that you can scrape the final layer
hot, too, but I'm not clear how durable that will be (or you need). You
can check his website tech tips at www.sierranordic.com. Depending on
the method and how you stagger the skis, it can be done in 30-40 mins,
maybe less. Fluoros tend to be more resistant to dirt.

Gene

wrote:

How long should it take to clean and
wax a pair of skate skiing for basic
training?

This time of year, with the dirty snow,
it takes me almost an hour. I must be
doing something wrong. The skis start out
very dirty, and it takes two or more soft
warm waxings before the scraped wax is just
a light grey.

Any tips?

--
Andrew Hall
(Now reading Usenet in rec.skiing.nordic...)

Any tips?

If you bases are gummed up, I wouldn't brush them as that will gum up
the brush. Here's my method:

-Plug in the iron, go have a piece of toast
-Sharpen scraper
-Do a warm scrape and scrape lightly right after ironing
-Repeat if the skis are dirty
-For training, I wouldn't worry about brushing out the wax used for
warm scraping
-Iron in the wax of the day
-Switch skis
-Warm scrape x 2
-Switch skis
-Scrape and brush wax of the day
-Switch skis
-Scrape and brush wax of the day

Don't worry about letting the wax of the day cool for 20 min, just get
it off the ski. For your conditions, you'll probably use at least a low
flouro wax. I'd say this process is probably 45 min. If you want to
speed it up, you can use the wax of the day on the second warm scrape,
let it cool and brush. That ought to be good enough for training.

Jay Wenner

AHall wrote
Well, then my 1 hr is not too far off.

If I had to spend that much time waxing in order to have fun on skis, I'd
find a different sport.

I think I skated about 8 days over the past three weeks, had lots of fun --
and only waxed my skis once.

My method was:

if they glided OK last time:
* do nothing and see if the Cerax will last another 20-40 km.
* maybe refresh the structure the the Toko structure tool.

if it feels like it's time to wax:
* wipe off obvious dirt with a wet paper towel.
* brush with brass brush and scrape a few times.
* wipe on Cerax AS and wait for it to dry.
* brush with nylon brush.
* roll with Toko structure tool.

Ken

Good advice on quick and easy training waxing has been given. Can't add to
it. But this might help. The www.swixsport.com website now has something
called "waxing school" which gives some pretty straight forward advice on
waxing. Pretty clear and simple. Video demonstrations as well.

Camilo

On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 08:55:28 -0900, "Camilo"
wrote:

Good advice on quick and easy training waxing has been given. Can't add to
it. But this might help. The www.swixsport.com website

I know people keep saying that site has good info, but I never can
find anything. I just don't understand how it works.

JFT

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