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getting used to new boots
Does anyone have any advice on what to do to get used to new boots?
I tried them out for the first time yesterday, at Beaver Creek. Eric was in a mogul mood (as per usual), so that's most of what we did. Ripsaw was the best; it doesn't get much sun, so the snow was still nice. It seems that my new boots, which are designed for "expert" rather than "intermediate" skiers, are much more demanding. In my old boots, leaning back definitely hurt my technique, but in these new boots, shin-to-tongue contact is an absolute must. I never thought I'd notice the difference so readily, but there it is. If I'm not aggressively positioned, I have no control. I figure this is a good thing, in the long run, as it will force me into good habits, but right now it's still disconcerting. The sides of my feet cramped a good deal the first few hours, but as the day wore on, the pain subsided. Eric assures me that his feet cramped the first few days, too, but after that he's been happy, so I guess I shouldn't expect miracles the first day. -- monique Longmont, CO |
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Monique Y. Mudama wrote:
Does anyone have any advice on what to do to get used to new boots? A little. I tried them out for the first time yesterday, at Beaver Creek. Eric was in a mogul mood (as per usual), so that's most of what we did. Ripsaw was the best; it doesn't get much sun, so the snow was still nice. Doing bumps in "racing" boots? Could be a problem right there. It seems that my new boots, which are designed for "expert" rather than "intermediate" skiers, are much more demanding. In my old boots, leaning back definitely hurt my technique, but in these new boots, shin-to-tongue contact is an absolute must. Shin to tongue contact is a good indicator that you are where you should be over your skis, but pushing against the back of the boot to jet out of a turn is also something you can feel with stiffer boots. Get out of the bumps for a while and do big carved turns and pick up on the feel of wherever you are. I never thought I'd notice the difference so readily, but there it is. If I'm not aggressively positioned, I have no control. I figure this is a good thing, in the long run, as it will force me into good habits, but right now it's still disconcerting. It would seem to me that being in the back seat in bumps is the cause for no control, not the boots. Yes, good boots will improve your skiing habits. The sides of my feet cramped a good deal the first few hours, but as the day wore on, the pain subsided. Eric assures me that his feet cramped the first few days, too, but after that he's been happy, so I guess I shouldn't expect miracles the first day. And now the meat of it. Plastic (a ski boot shell) will not conform to your foot. A conformable liner will help, but if the shell has pressure points now, or is too narrow, it will be too narrow and have pressure points next year. As I said, the conformable liner will help. Have you gotten your custom inner soles yet? The stiffer the boots, IMO, the more important these become. Have you gotten your inner soles at a place where they can also do shell adjustments? I have gotten two pair of boots finally adjusted to my feet so that I can ski multiple days in either of them. The AT boots are juicy comfy and the Alpine (racing) boots can be worn all day with little adjustment. All because I've had the bootfitter move out the shell where it hurt, and caused pain which lasted several days. Foot cramping can be caused by two things. a) your foot (instep) is being squashed because you don't have adequate arch support. or b) you boot is too narrow, or at least too narrow in critical places. Your boots should be tight enough so that you don't have to buckle them very tight to ski well. You should never have to "crank" on your buckles. Tight enough to stay closed plus a little is adequate if the boots fit right. If your new boots ARE fitted correctly, maybe your are simply buckling too tight. Your feet shouldn't cramp, get cold or otherwise be uncomfortable when you are in your boots. If they are the boots are too tight somewhere. As for "expert" boots as opposed to "intermediate" boots, I'm wondering what the difference is. I ski a lot in my AT boots. They are very soft, only three buckles, have a walk function and vibram soles. I got them because I'm off my skis a lot while "working" at the area. My bootfitter told me that many people can't ski well on them because they are so soft. Is softness a mark of an "expert" boot? My "racing boots" are middling stiff. Maybe not as stiff as my old Salomons, maybe stiffer, but they have a great progressive flex fore and aft and don't feel very stiff at all, but they will drive my Volkl 6star skis well where the AT boots leave a bit to be desired on a high performance ski. I've been considering a softer boot for my alpine use. I saw a pair of Kneissl Rail boots and tried on a pair of Garmont Adrenaline AT boots when I was at a shop in South Lake Tahoe on Friday. Both looked very nice and the Garmonts felt great. VtSkier |
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Thanks for your input ... I'm not sure you read my post very carefully,
though. Have you read any of my previous posts about boots, either? I didn't bother to reiterate some stuff I've mentioned before. On 2004-12-15, VtSkier penned: Monique Y. Mudama wrote: I tried them out for the first time yesterday, at Beaver Creek. Eric was in a mogul mood (as per usual), so that's most of what we did. Ripsaw was the best; it doesn't get much sun, so the snow was still nice. Doing bumps in "racing" boots? Could be a problem right there. Who said anything about racing boots? It seems that my new boots, which are designed for "expert" rather than "intermediate" skiers, are much more demanding. In my old boots, leaning back definitely hurt my technique, but in these new boots, shin-to-tongue contact is an absolute must. Shin to tongue contact is a good indicator that you are where you should be over your skis, but pushing against the back of the boot to jet out of a turn is also something you can feel with stiffer boots. Get out of the bumps for a while and do big carved turns and pick up on the feel of wherever you are. I don't think I've ever heard anything from an instructor or fellow skier about pushing against the back of the boot before. Maybe that's because I have such a bad habit of sitting back that they just wanted me to focus on moving forward. I never thought I'd notice the difference so readily, but there it is. If I'm not aggressively positioned, I have no control. I figure this is a good thing, in the long run, as it will force me into good habits, but right now it's still disconcerting. It would seem to me that being in the back seat in bumps is the cause for no control, not the boots. Yes, good boots will improve your skiing habits. Of *course* being in the backseat in the bumps is a no-control situation. My point was that my old boots were at least slightly tolerant of this bad behavior, while my new boots will have none of it. I have to be in the driver's seat. Like I said, pretty sure it's a good thing, but it's always painful when you're confronted with your own bad habits. The sides of my feet cramped a good deal the first few hours, but as the day wore on, the pain subsided. Eric assures me that his feet cramped the first few days, too, but after that he's been happy, so I guess I shouldn't expect miracles the first day. And now the meat of it. Plastic (a ski boot shell) will not conform to your foot. A conformable liner will help, but if the shell has pressure points now, or is too narrow, it will be too narrow and have pressure points next year. Well, yes, which is why I just bought these boots after having tried for five years to get my old boots to work. The new boots are already much more comfortable than the old ones, which had man-days of fitting work. I felt no pressure on the side of my foot in the stock liner, so when I felt some in the custom liner, the shop guys encouraged me to try the liner for a few days before getting any adjustments done on the shell. The shell itself is wonderful. There are no pressure points and it is plenty wide, for once. The stock liner felt good on first blush, but because of my history of difficulty with boots, I decided to get a custom foam liner. As I said, the conformable liner will help. Have you gotten your custom inner soles yet? The stiffer the boots, IMO, the more important these become. Yup, this is my second set of orthotics. My old boots had orthotics, as well, and they helped, but weren't enough to eliminate problems inherent to the shell. Have you gotten your inner soles at a place where they can also do shell adjustments? Yes. They won't grind or punch the shell until I've skied on the boot enough to pack out the liner and eliminate that as the culprit. I believe that is an appropriate attitude; no point making adjustments to the shell when the liner is still settling in. As I said before, my feet felt better at the end of the day than they did at the beginning, which suggests to me that it's not yet time for shell adjustments. I have gotten two pair of boots finally adjusted to my feet so that I can ski multiple days in either of them. The AT boots are juicy comfy and the Alpine (racing) boots can be worn all day with little adjustment. All because I've had the bootfitter move out the shell where it hurt, and caused pain which lasted several days. On the flip side, my last set of boots had many, many adjustments, including at least three punch-outs and a grind, and were never comfortable. Ski literature has all sorts of things to say about how you need the fit to be tight from the start, so that you have good control. It's clear to me that this tight-fit theory has flaws when it comes to people with unusually sensitive or oddly-shaped feet. When I first tried on this new pair of boots, I actually told the salesguy they must be too big, as they actually felt comfortable. But he did the usual toe and heel checks and assured me that "not in pain" did not have to mean "too loose to be effective." Foot cramping can be caused by two things. a) your foot (instep) is being squashed because you don't have adequate arch support. or b) you boot is too narrow, or at least too narrow in critical places. c) the liner hasn't packed out yet Your boots should be tight enough so that you don't have to buckle them very tight to ski well. You should never have to "crank" on your buckles. Tight enough to stay closed plus a little is adequate if the boots fit right. If your new boots ARE fitted correctly, maybe your are simply buckling too tight. Your feet shouldn't cramp, get cold or otherwise be uncomfortable when you are in your boots. If they are the boots are too tight somewhere. Welcome to my world. I have big calves. Even with women's boots and having moved the buckles out to the third hole, the boot is still pretty tight on the loosest setting. Also, I can definitely tell a difference in my level of control when I don't have the upper buckles tight. I've learned my lesson about cramping the calf by making the boot too tight, so I start out on the loosest setting every day and only tighten the buckles if I feel "wobbly." The one just above the ankle seems to be the most important for control. The two buckles across my foot, on the other hand, I have set as loosely as possible. There's no pressure being applied by the buckles. Frankly, I think all of your advice applies to boots that have been broken in, not boots that have been worn for a day. As I said, I had some cramping on the *first run ever* in these boots, but by the end of the day most of that was gone. As for the idea that my feet "shouldn't get cold," I'm wondering if you have any circulation problems. My hands get ice-cold just typing at the computer. As for "expert" boots as opposed to "intermediate" boots, I'm wondering what the difference is. I ski a lot in my AT boots. They are very soft, only three buckles, have a walk function and vibram soles. I got them because I'm off my skis a lot while "working" at the area. My bootfitter told me that many people can't ski well on them because they are so soft. Is softness a mark of an "expert" boot? My "racing boots" are middling stiff. Maybe not as stiff as my old Salomons, maybe stiffer, but they have a great progressive flex fore and aft and don't feel very stiff at all, but they will drive my Volkl 6star skis well where the AT boots leave a bit to be desired on a high performance ski. I've been considering a softer boot for my alpine use. I saw a pair of Kneissl Rail boots and tried on a pair of Garmont Adrenaline AT boots when I was at a shop in South Lake Tahoe on Friday. Both looked very nice and the Garmonts felt great. My new boots are stiffer than my old boots, but not so stiff that I can't flex them. Here they a http://www.salomonski.com/us/product...m=9&pro=782594 According to the shop, they recommended these boots to me based on forward lean, not stiffness. They have a more aggressive forward angle (see above discussion on how they force me into the driver's seat). In fact, the models they suggested first were softer, but the fit was just as tight as my old boots. My old boots had the walking function, as well as a flex adjustment that was a disaster -- any snow on the boot would push the flex adjuster, so that I never had any idea from moment to moment how much flex I actually had. The walking function isn't important to me, as the only walking I do in my boots is from the locker to the lift. I use regular shoes from the parking lot to the locker, to preserve both my feet and my boots. -- monique Longmont, CO |
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"Monique Y. Mudama" wrote in message
... Does anyone have any advice on what to do to get used to new boots? I tried them out for the first time yesterday, at Beaver Creek. Eric was in a mogul mood (as per usual), so that's most of what we did. Ripsaw was the best; it doesn't get much sun, so the snow was still nice. Make sure that you are not over cranking them. If you need to, they're probably too big. Cramping can result from trying to grip the bottom of your boot with your toes. Custom orthotics help that. You can also get what feel like a cramp when boots are too narrow at the base of your toes and kind of fold your foot between the ball of your foot and the other 4 toes. You won't believe the kind of pain that that compression can cause. Bootfitter. It doesn't mean that you got the wrong boots. IMO, 99% of boot buyers need some adjustment. If you paid more than bargain basement for them, fitting should be included. pigo |
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I don't think you can be sure of how a boot fits until you've had at least a
week of skiing. The may never be comfortable, but I've seen lots of people say they hate their new boots one week and later say they love them. (I've observed this phenomenon more with women than men but I'm not sure my sample size is large enough for that to be statistically significant.) "Monique Y. Mudama" wrote in message ... Does anyone have any advice on what to do to get used to new boots? I tried them out for the first time yesterday, at Beaver Creek. Eric was in a mogul mood (as per usual), so that's most of what we did. Ripsaw was the best; it doesn't get much sun, so the snow was still nice. It seems that my new boots, which are designed for "expert" rather than "intermediate" skiers, are much more demanding. In my old boots, leaning back definitely hurt my technique, but in these new boots, shin-to-tongue contact is an absolute must. I never thought I'd notice the difference so readily, but there it is. If I'm not aggressively positioned, I have no control. I figure this is a good thing, in the long run, as it will force me into good habits, but right now it's still disconcerting. The sides of my feet cramped a good deal the first few hours, but as the day wore on, the pain subsided. Eric assures me that his feet cramped the first few days, too, but after that he's been happy, so I guess I shouldn't expect miracles the first day. -- monique Longmont, CO |
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Monique Y. Mudama wrote:
Thanks for your input ... I'm not sure you read my post very carefully, though. Have you read any of my previous posts about boots, either? I didn't bother to reiterate some stuff I've mentioned before. A bit here and there, I've had a hiatus from RSA/RSAM for almost a year and just started posting again in the last week or so. On 2004-12-15, VtSkier penned: Monique Y. Mudama wrote: I tried them out for the first time yesterday, at Beaver Creek. Eric was in a mogul mood (as per usual), so that's most of what we did. Ripsaw was the best; it doesn't get much sun, so the snow was still nice. Doing bumps in "racing" boots? Could be a problem right there. Who said anything about racing boots? Okay, "almost" racing boots. My previous boots were X-wave 10's, same boot as yours, stiffer for my over 200# heft. Also, the X-wave line, especially the 10 is the same as the CrossMax 10 except that the cuff of the CrossMax is riveted for less fore-aft flex, and can almost certainly be called a racing boot with a comfortable liner. My current alpine boots are Raichle Flexon Racing boots and flex much better than the Salomons ever did. They may or may not be softer than the Salomons, but sure feel softer. It seems that my new boots, which are designed for "expert" rather than "intermediate" skiers, are much more demanding. In my old boots, leaning back definitely hurt my technique, but in these new boots, shin-to-tongue contact is an absolute must. Shin to tongue contact is a good indicator that you are where you should be over your skis, but pushing against the back of the boot to jet out of a turn is also something you can feel with stiffer boots. Get out of the bumps for a while and do big carved turns and pick up on the feel of wherever you are. I don't think I've ever heard anything from an instructor or fellow skier about pushing against the back of the boot before. Maybe that's because I have such a bad habit of sitting back that they just wanted me to focus on moving forward. Probably didn't want you to get used to pushing the back of the boot, but you will find, as you progress, that there are times when you may want to feel the back of your boot at certain times during (ending) a turn. I never thought I'd notice the difference so readily, but there it is. If I'm not aggressively positioned, I have no control. I figure this is a good thing, in the long run, as it will force me into good habits, but right now it's still disconcerting. It would seem to me that being in the back seat in bumps is the cause for no control, not the boots. Yes, good boots will improve your skiing habits. Of *course* being in the backseat in the bumps is a no-control situation. My point was that my old boots were at least slightly tolerant of this bad behavior, while my new boots will have none of it. I have to be in the driver's seat. Like I said, pretty sure it's a good thing, but it's always painful when you're confronted with your own bad habits. I have never had boots which were "tolerant" of being in the back seat in bumps. If I was there, I was out of control and needed to stop and regroup. The sides of my feet cramped a good deal the first few hours, but as the day wore on, the pain subsided. Eric assures me that his feet cramped the first few days, too, but after that he's been happy, so I guess I shouldn't expect miracles the first day. And now the meat of it. Plastic (a ski boot shell) will not conform to your foot. A conformable liner will help, but if the shell has pressure points now, or is too narrow, it will be too narrow and have pressure points next year. Well, yes, which is why I just bought these boots after having tried for five years to get my old boots to work. The new boots are already much more comfortable than the old ones, which had man-days of fitting work. I felt no pressure on the side of my foot in the stock liner, so when I felt some in the custom liner, the shop guys encouraged me to try the liner for a few days before getting any adjustments done on the shell. The shell itself is wonderful. There are no pressure points and it is plenty wide, for once. The stock liner felt good on first blush, but because of my history of difficulty with boots, I decided to get a custom foam liner. Sounds to me like your are getting good advice. As I said, the conformable liner will help. Have you gotten your custom inner soles yet? The stiffer the boots, IMO, the more important these become. Yup, this is my second set of orthotics. My old boots had orthotics, as well, and they helped, but weren't enough to eliminate problems inherent to the shell. Have you gotten your inner soles at a place where they can also do shell adjustments? Yes. They won't grind or punch the shell until I've skied on the boot enough to pack out the liner and eliminate that as the culprit. I believe that is an appropriate attitude; no point making adjustments to the shell when the liner is still settling in. As I said before, my feet felt better at the end of the day than they did at the beginning, which suggests to me that it's not yet time for shell adjustments. Sounds OK to me too. I've just been doing this for so long that I know what needs to be moved, tell the tech that and we can avoid a whole lot of call-backs. Recently, SureFoot made footbeds for both my Raichle's and my AT boots. The Raichle's are perfect, but in the AT boot, the arch was a little too much. So much that it actually chafed the bottom of my foot. I went to a boot guy in Tahoe and he ground a little off the arch of the footbeds because he, as I had suspected, said that the liner of the boot was more convex or narrower at the arch area or something like that. Problem solved. The initial fitting and this fine tuning will be the only fitting those boot will need. This on feet that are duck-shaped (probably webbed), extremely flexible, with bunions on the outside (pinky toe) as well as the big toe side and extra lumps of calcium where the right foot had been broken over 30 years ago. Now this is experience, and I'm sure you will get this experience as time goes along. You are smart and analytical, so you'll get it. I have gotten two pair of boots finally adjusted to my feet so that I can ski multiple days in either of them. The AT boots are juicy comfy and the Alpine (racing) boots can be worn all day with little adjustment. All because I've had the bootfitter move out the shell where it hurt, and caused pain which lasted several days. On the flip side, my last set of boots had many, many adjustments, including at least three punch-outs and a grind, and were never comfortable. Ski literature has all sorts of things to say about how you need the fit to be tight from the start, so that you have good control. It's clear to me that this tight-fit theory has flaws when it comes to people with unusually sensitive or oddly-shaped feet. When I first tried on this new pair of boots, I actually told the salesguy they must be too big, as they actually felt comfortable. But he did the usual toe and heel checks and assured me that "not in pain" did not have to mean "too loose to be effective." See above for odd-shaped feet. Also those pinky toe bunions are the most sensitive things going. Foot cramping can be caused by two things. a) your foot (instep) is being squashed because you don't have adequate arch support. or b) you boot is too narrow, or at least too narrow in critical places. c) the liner hasn't packed out yet Could be, and I think more likely with your custom liners. Your boots should be tight enough so that you don't have to buckle them very tight to ski well. You should never have to "crank" on your buckles. Tight enough to stay closed plus a little is adequate if the boots fit right. If your new boots ARE fitted correctly, maybe your are simply buckling too tight. Your feet shouldn't cramp, get cold or otherwise be uncomfortable when you are in your boots. If they are the boots are too tight somewhere. Welcome to my world. I have big calves. Even with women's boots and having moved the buckles out to the third hole, the boot is still pretty tight on the loosest setting. If I'm not mistaken, you may be able to punch a fourth hole, I think there is enough material. Alternately, I think you can get a longer ratchet for the buckle. Also, I can definitely tell a difference in my level of control when I don't have the upper buckles tight. I've learned my lesson about cramping the calf by making the boot too tight, so I start out on the loosest setting every day and only tighten the buckles if I feel "wobbly." The one just above the ankle seems to be the most important for control. The two buckles across my foot, on the other hand, I have set as loosely as possible. There's no pressure being applied by the buckles. Frankly, I think all of your advice applies to boots that have been broken in, not boots that have been worn for a day. As I said, I had some cramping on the *first run ever* in these boots, but by the end of the day most of that was gone. As for the idea that my feet "shouldn't get cold," I'm wondering if you have any circulation problems. My hands get ice-cold just typing at the computer. Your buckling technique sounds right to me, but I'll bet as time goes on that you will find just the right tightness to last you all day, or maybe with just one "tightening". If you really do get cold feet often enough to be bothersome, there is no shame in boot heaters. Some of my best friends use boot heaters. Also, my wife has a pair of mittens which have a jell inside which moves heat from warmer areas to the finger areas. She's had them for a long time and swears by them. Remember, I said mittens. Hotfingers of a couple of years ago said their gloves (and mittens) moved heat from one part of the glove to another. I've also seen electrically heated gloves, not unlike boots. As for "expert" boots as opposed to "intermediate" boots, I'm wondering what the difference is. I ski a lot in my AT boots. They are very soft, only three buckles, have a walk function and vibram soles. I got them because I'm off my skis a lot while "working" at the area. My bootfitter told me that many people can't ski well on them because they are so soft. Is softness a mark of an "expert" boot? My "racing boots" are middling stiff. Maybe not as stiff as my old Salomons, maybe stiffer, but they have a great progressive flex fore and aft and don't feel very stiff at all, but they will drive my Volkl 6star skis well where the AT boots leave a bit to be desired on a high performance ski. I've been considering a softer boot for my alpine use. I saw a pair of Kneissl Rail boots and tried on a pair of Garmont Adrenaline AT boots when I was at a shop in South Lake Tahoe on Friday. Both looked very nice and the Garmonts felt great. My new boots are stiffer than my old boots, but not so stiff that I can't flex them. Here they a http://www.salomonski.com/us/product...m=9&pro=782594 Great boots, no question, I made some comments earlier. According to the shop, they recommended these boots to me based on forward lean, not stiffness. They have a more aggressive forward angle (see above discussion on how they force me into the driver's seat). In fact, the models they suggested first were softer, but the fit was just as tight as my old boots. My old boots had the walking function, as well as a flex adjustment that was a disaster -- any snow on the boot would push the flex adjuster, so that I never had any idea from moment to moment how much flex I actually had. The walking function isn't important to me, as the only walking I do in my boots is from the locker to the lift. I use regular shoes from the parking lot to the locker, to preserve both my feet and my boots. There were quit a few boots made in recent years called "convenience" boots which had a walking feature. They tried to bridge the gap between rear-entry with their ease of use and comfort and a full overlap design such as your new boots. My daughter's boots have this. She almost never clicks to "walk" once her boots are on, but the feature gives ease of putting on and taking off. The "walk" mode on AT boots is absolutely necessary for the intended use. I always thought flex adjustment was fairly useless. I've only had one pair with it in my life. Some red Technicas of a decade or so ago. The walking function is handy, especially with the vibram soles, when I have to be off my skis but on the mountain a lot of the time. Yes, I always carry my boots to the lodge unless I can ski directly away from my car as at Vale parking lot at Killington. Seems to me that you are clear in your direction regarding boots. I hope the X-Wave's work well for you as they are truly a great boot. I know you post a lot regarding lots of things about skiing and your present postings about boots and the many responses you got from me and others may well be of help to you and to other people looking for advice on what will and how to improve their skiing. As you have found already, good boots will make a measurable and immediate improvement on your skiing. |
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On 2004-12-16, pigo penned:
Make sure that you are not over cranking them. If you need to, they're probably too big. Cramping can result from trying to grip the bottom of your boot with your toes. Custom orthotics help that. You can also get what feel like a cramp when boots are too narrow at the base of your toes and kind of fold your foot between the ball of your foot and the other 4 toes. You won't believe the kind of pain that that compression can cause. Bootfitter. It doesn't mean that you got the wrong boots. IMO, 99% of boot buyers need some adjustment. If you paid more than bargain basement for them, fitting should be included. Ayup. I got these at Surefoot, a bootfitter with many locations around the area, precisely because they're service-oriented and will keep adjusting the boot until it does finally work for you. It occurs to me that I'm not really sure what I was looking for when I made the original post. I think I meant to ask, "Is it normal to have slight discomfort that goes away after a few days of skiing on your new boots?" I suppose that would have been a much shorter post =P -- monique Longmont, CO |
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On 2004-12-16, DZN penned:
I don't think you can be sure of how a boot fits until you've had at least a week of skiing. The may never be comfortable, but I've seen lots of people say they hate their new boots one week and later say they love them. (I've observed this phenomenon more with women than men but I'm not sure my sample size is large enough for that to be statistically significant.) I agree. Okay, now I realize what I meant to ask! What I meant to ask is this: Are there exercises or practice techniques that you use when you get a new boot to get yourself accustomed to them? I'm thinking stuff like, exercises you can do on the slope to teach yourself how they might respond differently from your old boots. That's what I *meant* to ask. -- monique Longmont, CO |
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Monique Y. Mudama wrote:
Frankly, I think all of your advice applies to boots that have been broken in, not boots that have been worn for a day. As I said, I had some cramping on the *first run ever* in these boots, I don't think I've ever had a day of skiing when I didn't get _some_ foot cramps. New boots, old boots...there are a lot of possible causes foot cramps. In any case, I'd say that the level of discomfort you describe is not bad for a first day in a high-performance pair of boots. In fact, if it were me, I doubt I could have lasted all day. -- Mary Malmros Some days you're the windshield, other days you're the bug. |
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Mary Malmros wrote:
Monique Y. Mudama wrote: Frankly, I think all of your advice applies to boots that have been broken in, not boots that have been worn for a day. As I said, I had some cramping on the *first run ever* in these boots, I don't think I've ever had a day of skiing when I didn't get _some_ foot cramps. Are you kidding? If that's the case, you need to get some better boots. Or a better boot fitter. There is no reason to suffer like a Japanese geisha. -klaus |
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more ski boot advice sought | Timo | Alpine Skiing | 6 | December 10th 04 09:31 PM |
Any recent Demos of note to report? | Gene Goldenfeld | Nordic Skiing | 14 | March 13th 04 05:42 PM |
Salomon 9 vs Carbon | Griss | Nordic Skiing | 9 | January 6th 04 04:25 PM |