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Old January 24th 05, 03:50 PM
BarryT
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"Anders" wrote in message
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IMHO there are two rules: 1) Do not appear like a bolt out of the blue;
make some noise (kick loudly, cough, whistle, whatever) *well before
you´re at his/her tail* and 2a) Switch tracks or hop into the skating
lane/ *in good time* or 2b) make your skating movement narrower(so that
it´s immediately obvious to the slower skier than there´s no need for
him to jump anywhere to avoid a collision or to escape your fury) .
There´s usually no need to issue any explicit warning.
Anders


When I pass another skier, I believe it is my responsability to do so in a
manner that is safe for both of us and that I do it without "annoying" this
person.
.. Most trails I ski are double-track plus a skate lane. It is very easy for
me to step into the other track or onto the skating lane and pass.
.. If a ski a double-track only, I take the free track and pass. If there are
no free tracks (or if I ski a single track trail), I simply say "please"
from a distance and repeat as needed. 95% of the skiers do understand and
clear track so I can pass and say "thanks" (the remaining 5% are just a
bunch of ?#*&!). ; )
.. When passing, I keep my poles as low as possible: most beginners
or ski walkers feel threatened by pole tips being pointed at them.
.. The only times I am really annoyed is when people stop on the trails and
stay in the tracks. Especially at the end of a downhill section... I must
admit that my vocabulary changes and I become a little less polite!

BarryT






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Old January 24th 05, 04:32 PM
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Sure, one comment doesn't exclude others. I find "on your left" (often
add "hi") in an appropriate tone usually suffices for both a warning and
a greeting. If the alert isn't necessary, then a "hello" comes as I
draw up alongside. Then there's the "Hello" of a different kind that
follows an unheard or unheeded alert.

Gene


John Forrest Tomlinson wrote:

On 23 Jan 2005 07:53:59 -0800, "sknyski" wrote:

This is retarded. Do you honk each time you pass a car on the freeway?


Exactly.

Each sport has its own ettiquette.


The downhill skiers have precedence in skiing is particular to skiing
and makes sense. But the concept of "warning" someone in passing is
universally retarded regardless of whether you're on a bike, in car,
running, cycling, whatever. The only time a warning like that has
value is if you are passing someone really close. But passing someone
that close is obnoxious in a public space. If you are overtakign
someone, it's your responsiblity to not buzz them. And if you're not
buzzing them, the honking, hupping, tracking, on your lefting is
retarded. Just say hello after you pass if you have to say anything.

JFT

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Old January 24th 05, 04:45 PM
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Bruce, you obviously did not read my post.

My points a
- There is no need to warn slower skiers if you give them a wide berth
- People who are new to a sport should not lecture people who are
experienced about etiquette.


Make sure you have your facts straight before you shoot your mouth off.
Bryant Tolles
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Old January 24th 05, 04:50 PM
sknyski
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[Just a historical note: Nazi Germany passed legislation so they could
legally round up the mentally retarded and exterminated them, as well
as
jews, gypsies, and homosexuals.]

Bruce, thanks for taking the bait. I used the term "retarded" just to
see if some uptight p.c. moron would call me on it. Turns out that
that uptight p.c. moron is you.

Bryant

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Old January 24th 05, 05:12 PM
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. When passing, I keep my poles as low as possible: most beginners
or ski walkers feel threatened by pole tips being pointed at them.


This seems to be the point where the car / bike passing analogy breaks
down -- cars and bikes don't have long, pointy metal-tipped objects
flailing out into adjoining lanes. Hence the virtue of the wide berth.
I've often seen beginning skiers step out of a lane but leave their
poles ready to trip / impale anyone who dared to ski in that lane.

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Old January 24th 05, 05:14 PM
Gene Goldenfeld
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sknyski wrote:

[Just a historical note: Nazi Germany passed legislation so they could
legally round up the mentally retarded and exterminated them, as well
as
jews, gypsies, and homosexuals.]

Bruce, thanks for taking the bait. I used the term "retarded" just to
see if some uptight p.c. moron would call me on it. Turns out that
that uptight p.c. moron is you.

Bryant


Whoa! Sounds like your coffee maker broke down, Bryant.

GG
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Old January 24th 05, 11:13 PM
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Think about it -- do you want
cars to honk when they pass you?


yes ... at least then I know they see me !

jw
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Old January 25th 05, 12:35 AM
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On Mon, 24 Jan 2005, sknyski wrote:

[Just a historical note: Nazi Germany passed legislation so they could
legally round up the mentally retarded and exterminated them, as well
as
jews, gypsies, and homosexuals.]


So is this an attempt to invoke Godwin's Law and close the discussion?

See: http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?GodwinsLaw

-Mitch




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Old January 25th 05, 01:10 AM
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"Mitch Collinsworth" wrote in message
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On Mon, 24 Jan 2005, sknyski wrote:

[Just a historical note: Nazi Germany passed legislation so they could
legally round up the mentally retarded and exterminated them, as well
as
jews, gypsies, and homosexuals.]


So is this an attempt to invoke Godwin's Law and close the discussion?

See: http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?GodwinsLaw



I think you're right Mitch - it's the first thing I thought of when I saw
the N word (but I couldn't remember the name Godwin).

Cam


 




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