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Old January 7th 04, 01:16 AM
32 degrees
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Ok - whats up with this? Where is Kris Freeman?






1 1178162 ANGERER Tobias GER 1:19:01.8 0.00
2 1139459 PILLER COTTRER Pietro ITA 1:19:02.1 0.06
3 1221036 FILBRICH Jens GER 1:19:02.4 0.13
3 1101047 SOMMERFELDT Rene GER 1:19:02.4 0.13
5 1224140 SANTUS Fabio ITA 1:19:03.3 0.32
6 1100077 VITTOZ Vincent FRA 1:19:05.9 0.86
7 1033923 VALBUSA Fulvio ITA 1:19:10.7 1.88
8 1278557 VILISSOV Vladimir RUS 1:19:11.3 2.00
9 1177580 JONNIER Emmanuel FRA 1:19:11.6 2.07
10 1248293 SOEDERGREN Anders SWE 1:19:12.8 2.32
11 1224334 SARACCO Cristian ITA 1:19:13.1 2.38
12 1059725 AUKLAND Anders NOR 1:19:13.5 2.47
13 1150517 ESTIL Frode NOR 1:19:14.5 2.68
14 1066224 FREDRIKSSON Mathias SWE 1:19:14.6 2.70
15 1029461 SKJELDAL Kristen NOR 1:19:15.0 2.78
16 1175155 MAGAL Jiri CZE 1:19:17.4 3.29
17 3480015 ALYPOV Ivan RUS 1:19:22.5 4.37
18 3480004 DEMENTIEV Eugeni RUS 1:19:36.1 7.23
19 1217350 BAUER Lukas CZE 1:19:42.0 8.48
20 1092511 HETLAND Tor Arne NOR 1:19:48.6 9.87
21 1141690 BUNDI Gion Andrea SUI 1:19:57.8 11.81
22 1221327 TEICHMANN Axel GER 1:19:58.7 12.00
22 1153621 BRINK Joergen SWE 1:19:58.7 12.00
24 1238787 HOEGBERG Anders SWE 1:20:01.0 12.48
25 1098137 MAE Jaak EST 1:20:02.5 12.80
26 3480007 PANKRATOV Nikolai RUS 1:20:05.3 13.39
27 1067291 DI CENTA Giorgio ITA 1:20:09.6 14.30
28 1263231 HOFSTAD Tore Ruud NOR 1:21:01.7 25.29
29 1095518 TAUBER Martin AUT 1:21:12.3 27.52
30 3480016 LEGKOV Alexander RUS 1:21:12.8 27.63
31 1262455 ANDRESEN Jan Egil NOR 1:21:27.8 30.79
32 1092220 CARLSSON Lars SWE 1:21:28.2 30.87
33 1051189 EBISAWA Katsuhito JPN 1:21:28.3 30.90
34 3180000 OHTONEN Olli FIN 1:21:30.2 31.30
35 1046436 URAIN Gerhard AUT 1:22:28.1 43.51
36 1291458 NARUSK Priit EST 1:22:36.6 45.30
37 1373035 KARLSSON Niklas SWE 1:22:39.7 45.95
38 1284183 PERSSON Fredrik SWE 1:22:48.0 47.70
39 1192130 FREDRIKSSON Thobias SWE 1:22:51.3 48.40
40 1051480 IMAI Hiroyuki JPN 1:23:49.5 60


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Old January 7th 04, 10:58 AM
Davide Tosi
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"32 degrees" wrote:

Ok - whats up with this? Where is Kris Freeman?

1 1178162 ANGERER Tobias GER 1:19:01.8 0.00
2 1139459 PILLER COTTRER Pietro ITA 1:19:02.1 0.06
3 1221036 FILBRICH Jens GER 1:19:02.4 0.13
3 1101047 SOMMERFELDT Rene GER 1:19:02.4 0.13
5 1224140 SANTUS Fabio ITA 1:19:03.3 0.32
6 1100077 VITTOZ Vincent FRA 1:19:05.9 0.86
7 1033923 VALBUSA Fulvio ITA 1:19:10.7 1.88
8 1278557 VILISSOV Vladimir RUS 1:19:11.3 2.00
9 1177580 JONNIER Emmanuel FRA 1:19:11.6 2.07
10 1248293 SOEDERGREN Anders SWE 1:19:12.8 2.32
11 1224334 SARACCO Cristian ITA 1:19:13.1 2.38
12 1059725 AUKLAND Anders NOR 1:19:13.5 2.47


I don't know the reason for which your yankee hero didn't partecipate, but
I think there are a few things to be noted from the results above.
The first seven are all from Alpine nations. The first scandinavian is just
10th, the first norwegian only 12th. There are 3 Germans, 3 Italians and 2
Frenchs before the first Swedish, 4 Italians, 3 Germans and 2 Frenchs
before the first Norwegian.
The result of the female double pursuit is not that much different, with 2
Italians, 1 Czech, 1 German and no Scandinavians in the top 5.
And all this with the top Austrian skiers skipping the Falun races.
I have the impression that the x-country pendulum is finally swinging away
from the far North. It should have happened sooner or later, since there
are many more people (and consequently more potential skiers) living in the
Alpine regions of Germany, Italy, France, Austria and the other central
Euro nations than there are inhabitants in Sweden, Norway and Finland.

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Old January 7th 04, 06:54 PM
Terje Mathisen
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Default Falun 2x15km double pursuit results

Davide Tosi wrote:
I don't know the reason for which your yankee hero didn't partecipate, but
I think there are a few things to be noted from the results above.
The first seven are all from Alpine nations. The first scandinavian is just
10th, the first norwegian only 12th. There are 3 Germans, 3 Italians and 2
Frenchs before the first Swedish, 4 Italians, 3 Germans and 2 Frenchs
before the first Norwegian.


One very important factor: This was a double pursuit, but with the
classic part, where the norwegians usually stretch the field quite a
bit, held in a very severe snowfall.

I believe they still tried to lead, but the result was only that they
got too tired before the skate part, when the weather cleared a little,
according to Aftenposten.

OTOH, it is obvious that xc has really penetrated outside scandinavia,
and in depth, not just a few scattered racers.

Terje

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Old January 8th 04, 11:05 AM
Davide Tosi
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Default Falun 2x15km double pursuit results

Terje Mathisen wrote:

Davide Tosi wrote:
I don't know the reason for which your yankee hero didn't partecipate, but
I think there are a few things to be noted from the results above.
The first seven are all from Alpine nations. The first scandinavian is just
10th, the first norwegian only 12th. There are 3 Germans, 3 Italians and 2
Frenchs before the first Swedish, 4 Italians, 3 Germans and 2 Frenchs
before the first Norwegian.


One very important factor: This was a double pursuit, but with the
classic part, where the norwegians usually stretch the field quite a
bit, held in a very severe snowfall.

I believe they still tried to lead, but the result was only that they
got too tired before the skate part, when the weather cleared a little,
according to Aftenposten.


I did see the races (on German channel ARD, right now the best source for
wintersports) and I did not notice any remarkable change in the weather
between the two parts. Piller Cottrer and Valbusa also tried to make a
break just after the "pit stop" without any success, but they had no
problem in following the Germans during the final forcing. OTOH, I don't
remember that many Norwegians leading the race in the classic part, except
in the downhills, where they obviously had good waxes. Moreover, Soedergren
was the only Swedish who tried to speed up the pace in front of the pack
and nonetheless he was the best of the men in blue & yellow at the end. So,
I don't think that the people who ended behind did it because they were
tired for trying to break away during early part of the races, they were
just on poorer form. And anyway anyone who wants to beat the Germans has to
speed up the rhythm before the last few Kms, since Sommerfeldt, Angerer and
co. are clearly the best in mass arrivals.

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Old January 8th 04, 02:03 PM
Ken Roberts
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Default XC skiing in Alpine countries (was Falun 2x15km double pursuit results)

My favorite ski mountaineering partner in Germany just got interested in
skate skiing. And my favorite ski mountaineering partner in France has
already been ski-skating for years (ever since his grip wax failed one year
half way thru the Transjurassienne). And less than a year ago I myself
suddenly got excited for ski skating, when I discovered how magical it could
be.

Davide Tosi wrote:
The first seven are all from Alpine nations. The first
scandinavian is just 10th, the first norwegian only 12th.


Both ski mountaineering and ski skating offer a special combination of
athletic competence and magical gliding. They also go together well because
of how they are different: high mountain ski tours can be only be done in
favorable weather and snow conditions, and skating uses a wider variety of
muscle groups -- so you can get out and have a fun time skating on the days
in between the good mountain touring days.

Come to think of it, I know some pretty good American ski mountaineers in
Seattle and Tahoe who also like ski skating. Norway has some ski
mountaineering, but seems like most of what is accessable for quick daytrips
there is not of the same quality as the great alpine countries of France,
Switzerland, Austria, Italy.

So my current favorite ski vacation spot is around Chambery, France -- with
the very fun rolling-terrain skating of La Feclaz just above a big green
valley with vineyards surrounded by interesting mountains -- plus within
two-hours driving time, the world's greatest set of daytrip-accessible and
multi-day ski mountaineering tours. And just in case I ever get bored with
La Feclaz, there is gentle+spectacular Bessans and three other XC centers in
daytrip driving range.

But I'm only a beginner at discovering ski skating / mountaineering combi
spots in the Alps.

What's a place in Austria for combining fun track skating with lots of ski
mountaineering tours within an hour or two of driving? How about Italy?

Ken


 




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