Serious reviews/discussion of Day Touring gear?

On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 08:11:08 -0800 (PST), "Jeff Potter (of
OutYourBackdoor.com)" wrote:


I accept criticism.

Here are two: You're wrong about colors of clothing. You don't
understand the meaning of "perfect."

I reject insult.

You're wrong a lot. Is that an insult? Is that a flame? Is it true?
It might be all three.

On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 08:22:38 -0800 (PST), "Jeff Potter (of
OutYourBackdoor.com)" wrote:

PS: Thanks, you guys, for backing me up. And, JFT, I have nothing
against your criticisms as long as you skip the insults. --JP

Jeff, have you noticed that they have only backed you up on the "tone"
of discussion and not on the substance of a lot of what you say about
the equipment?

I'd rather have people rag on my tone or style of what I way, and not
the substance. YMMV.

Maybe it's because others didn't have anything special to say about
the substance, but they recognize someone who's way out of line when
they see it. Nice try.



John Forrest Tomlinson wrote:

On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 08:22:38 -0800 (PST), "Jeff Potter (of
OutYourBackdoor.com)" wrote:

PS: Thanks, you guys, for backing me up. And, JFT, I have nothing
against your criticisms as long as you skip the insults. --JP

Jeff, have you noticed that they have only backed you up on the "tone"
of discussion and not on the substance of a lot of what you say about
the equipment?

I'd rather have people rag on my tone or style of what I way, and not
the substance. YMMV.

On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 22:29:45 -0600, wrote:

Maybe it's because others didn't have anything special to say about
the substance,

I'm curious if you agree with much of Potter's substance or just
ignore it/don't care. You seem super-smart, so I'll assume you're
ignoring it.

On Dec 30 2007, 10:06 pm, John Forrest Tomlinson
wrote:
On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 09:26:28 -0600, wrote:
It's heartening to see that after several years here you remain just as
mean spirited and close minded as ever.

You haven't seen mean. You're calling for fake niceness and I don't
play that.

No. I'm calling for netiquette. --JP

On Dec 30 2007, 10:09 pm, John Forrest Tomlinson
wrote:
On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 08:11:08 -0800 (PST), "Jeff Potter (of

OutYourBackdoor.com)" wrote:
I accept criticism.

Here are two: You're wrong about colors of clothing.

No, you're wrong. My opinion is that colorful clothing looks good on
snow and that the dominance of black in US XC clothing is lame. My
opinion can't be wrong, it's just my opinion. You're free to give your
own fashion opinion, but it's wrong of you to equate my fashion
opinion with a stance on function.

You don't understand the meaning of "perfect."

I understand it and use it well enough in the context of ski reviews
on Usenet.

I reject insult.

You're wrong a lot. Is that an insult? Is that a flame? Is it true?
It might be all three.

It's a flame because it's an unsupported negative statement. It's also
OT.

--JP

On Sun, 6 Jan 2008 07:52:48 -0800 (PST), "Jeff Potter (of
OutYourBackdoor.com)" wrote:

On Dec 30 2007, 10:06 pm, John Forrest Tomlinson
wrote:
On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 09:26:28 -0600, wrote:
It's heartening to see that after several years here you remain just as
mean spirited and close minded as ever.

You haven't seen mean. You're calling for fake niceness and I don't
play that.

No. I'm calling for netiquette. --JP

And I'm calling for logic and accuracy. Sorry that annoys you so
much.

On Sun, 6 Jan 2008 07:57:11 -0800 (PST), "Jeff Potter (of
OutYourBackdoor.com)" wrote:

On Dec 30 2007, 10:09 pm, John Forrest Tomlinson
wrote:
You don't understand the meaning of "perfect."

I understand it and use it well enough in the context of ski reviews
on Usenet.

If you keep that attitude your reviews will be worthless to most
readers.

On Jan 6, 3:27 pm, John Forrest Tomlinson
wrote:

You haven't seen mean.


HEY---I'VE SEEN PEOPLE LIKE YOU WRECK NEWSGROUPS. I'VE DEFENDED
NETIQUETTE EVERY TIME.


You're calling for fake niceness and I don't
play that.

No. I'm calling for netiquette. --JP

And I'm calling for logic and accuracy. Sorry that annoys you so
much.

It doesn't annoy me. Your rudeness does. You can feel free to
contribute where you can according to the rules/culture of Usenet. My
posts are good enough until you post something better or more
helpful.

--JP

On Jan 6, 3:28 pm, John Forrest Tomlinson
wrote:
On Sun, 6 Jan 2008 07:57:11 -0800 (PST), "Jeff Potter (of

OutYourBackdoor.com)" wrote:
On Dec 30 2007, 10:09 pm, John Forrest Tomlinson
wrote:
You don't understand the meaning of "perfect."

I understand it and use it well enough in the context of ski reviews
on Usenet.

If you keep that attitude your reviews will be worthless to most
readers.

Your over-reaction is what has no value.

--JP