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Old August 30th 03, 12:33 PM
Ulrich Hausmann
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lac.stanford.edu wrote:


_ I would like to get a beefy AT setup this year or maybe
I'll just keep boot packing.... Anyway if anybody has any
experience putting AT bindings on Big Stix 750's that'd
be great or if you just need an excuse to rant until the
snow comes, go for it...


i presume the 750 is what here in europe is calle 75 (?). then, it's a
nice allround ski - you can also use it for randonee and freeride as well.

greetings,

ulrich

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Old September 4th 03, 05:07 PM
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Stefano Whitemount wrote:
On Sat, 30 Aug 2003 14:33:19 +0200, Ulrich Hausmann
wrote:

i presume the 750 is what here in europe is calle 75 (?). then, it's a
nice allround ski - you can also use it for randonee and freeride as well.

750 is the 2003/04 name of the 75.


_ I think you mean 2002/2003.


Not.


_ Well, the skis I bought are definitely 2002/2003 skis. In the
USA the 74 was a 2001/2002 season ski[1] which was renamed to
the 750[2] for 2002/2003, I think it was beefed up slightly
as well. Just to confuse things, I'm pretty sure both skis
were sold under different names in Europe.


I have see it in st.anton last year, it's heavier than old model and
more dumped (I haven't skied it).


_ I think the english word you want there is "damped".

_ Fischer's new big Stix (2003/2004) are radically different from
the old Big Stix, they've gone from a wood core to a air/carbon
fiber I-beam core. I haven't skiied them, but I've fondled them
in the store and they are amazingly light. While sold as an
alpine ski, they feel lighter than most AT skis. From what I've
heard they ski differently that the old Big Stix and it may
take a season for Fischer to tune in the flex.


The ski I have had in hand is FX750 if I remember well, and is not
light,
the R.9 by Atomic was a lot lighter.


_ I can only report what I see here in the USA. The new Big Stix[3]
is very light for a Fat ski, it's certainly not in competition
with AT racing skis or very traditional AT skis. The new 8.4's
are lighter than the old 750's by quite a bit ( at least in hand
side by side weighing). They feel a lot lighter than many of the
skis us Crazy Americans are putting AT bindings on... Of course,
I didn't have a scale handy so this may just be my imagination.

_ Booker C. Bense

[1]- A review of the 74.
http://www.couloirmag.com/gear/revie...iews_nov01.htm

[2]- Last year's 750. The "tele" version is just the alpine ski
with different graphics.

http://www.backcountrystore.com/stor...tml?CP=Froogle

[3]- These are the ski's that are being sold in the USA this
season.

http://www.fischer-ski.com/en/alpine...cat=1&subcat=4

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Old September 5th 03, 02:25 PM
Jonathan Shefftz
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I am fairly sure (though I haven't consulted all my old ski mags yet,
just an on-line source for the moment), that the Fischer 75 was the
2002-03 (and only for 02-03) alpine ski, and that the Fischer 750 was
its slightly tweaked (if at all) tele brother (clone?) for that same
season.
Here's a review for the 75 - seems like it should be fine for just
about anything:
"More nimble than 84 [i.e., Fischer ski with an 84mm waist], nearly as
effective in moderate deep snow, quicker on steeps. Our favorite
Fischer All Terrain ski. Manageable at slower speeds, stable at higher
speeds. Not a fall line ski, but versatile enough to handle almost
anything."
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Old September 5th 03, 04:10 PM
Dingus Milktoast
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"Jonathan Shefftz" wrote

Here's a review for the 75 - seems like it should be fine for just
about anything:


Anyone else ever notice that ski reviews are often indistinguishable from a
wine tasting?

A lively ski, with a sense of humor, a snap at the finish and a strong
aftertaste reminiscent of plums and blackberries (when you do your
obligatory face plant).

I highly recommend it sir.

Oh, and they're as expensive and habit forming as good wine too. Or good Bob
Marley!

DMT


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Old September 6th 03, 06:40 PM
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Dingus Milktoast wrote:

"Jonathan Shefftz" wrote

Here's a review for the 75 - seems like it should be fine for just
about anything:


Anyone else ever notice that ski reviews are often indistinguishable from a
wine tasting?

A lively ski, with a sense of humor, a snap at the finish and a strong
aftertaste reminiscent of plums and blackberries (when you do your
obligatory face plant).

I highly recommend it sir.

Oh, and they're as expensive and habit forming as good wine too. Or good Bob
Marley!


_ You know what's sad, I have more pairs of skis than bottles of
good wine...

_ Booker C. Bense


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Old September 9th 03, 09:23 AM
Stefano Whitemount
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On Thu, 4 Sep 2003 17:07:27 +0000 (UTC),
bbense+rec.skiing.backcountry.Sep.04.03@telemark. slac.stanford.edu
wrote:

[3]- These are the ski's that are being sold in the USA this
season.

http://www.fischer-ski.com/en/alpine...cat=1&subcat=4


This is the graphic of the ski that I have seen.

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