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Metal Edge Touring Ski Maintenance
Just bought a pair of Fischer Crown Outbounds. Having never owned a
pair of metal edged skis of any type before, I was wondering if anyone had a favorite website that deals with the ins and outs of taking care of this type of ski (detuning, how the metal edges affect base waxing, etc.). I'm not a novice when it comes to ski care.I own almost a dozen pair of Nordic skis from racing skate to my old yellow Epoke 1000s. I've Nordic skied for 30 years and am familiar with nordic wax from Grundvax to Flourocarbon...but I don't know the first thing about maintaining a metal edge ski. Help? Thanks George Cleveland |
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George Cleveland wrote:
Just bought a pair of Fischer Crown Outbounds. Having never owned a pair of metal edged skis of any type before, I was wondering if anyone had a favorite website that deals with the ins and outs of taking care of this type of ski (detuning, how the metal edges affect base waxing, etc.). I'm not a novice when it comes to ski care.I own almost a dozen pair of Nordic skis from racing skate to my old yellow Epoke 1000s. I've Nordic skied for 30 years and am familiar with nordic wax from Grundvax to Flourocarbon...but I don't know the first thing about maintaining a metal edge ski. Help? Thanks George Cleveland George: How is this for a start: http://www.vikinglodge.com.au/SkiTuning.html http://www.tognar.com/ Steve |
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In article , William Claspy wrote: On 10/8/04 11:46 PM, in article , "George Cleveland" wrote: Just bought a pair of Fischer Crown Outbounds. Having never owned a pair of metal edged skis of any type before, I was wondering if anyone had a favorite website that deals with the ins and outs of taking care of this type of ski (detuning, how the metal edges affect base waxing, etc.). I'm not a novice when it comes to ski care.I own almost a dozen pair of Nordic skis from racing skate to my old yellow Epoke 1000s. I've Nordic skied for 30 years and am familiar with nordic wax from Grundvax to Flourocarbon...but I don't know the first thing about maintaining a metal edge ski. Help? Glad you asked this, George. Need to get the XCDs I bought last year cleaned up and ready to go. Dang, those edges rust up fast! _ Buy something from tognar just to get the catalog. It's one of the best tutorials around. There are some tricks to dealing with metal edged waxless skis that I've only picked up via experience. _ Basically, all you need to do with metal edged skis of this type is keep the edges rust free and relatively sharp and square. All the advanced tuning possible for alpine skis is kind of pointless on a waxless ski base, although I recommend waxing the "crown" part of the base and using a soft brush to remove the excess wax once a season and you definitely want to wax the non-crown part fairly frequently. _ Sharpening theses skis with standard tools is kind of difficult without also removing some of the waxless base as well. In general the edges are much thinner than on a regular alpine ski to save weight and this creates problems for maintaining them. _ Get a red "soft stone" for polishing and burr removal. The best tool I've found for regular sharpening of these small edges is a small plastic tool with two small stones held at 90 degree angle. It looks like a cheapo piece of junk, but in this case it actually works pretty well. You can do it with a file, but it requires much more care than usual and all the fancy file angling tools don't work very well on such thin edges. The basic FK pocket tuner works fairly well, since you can control how much of the file actually touches the base. This is probably the best tool for more serious work, but in general you want to sharpen these edges much less frequently since you have much less material to work with. _ Detuning is not much of an issue with these skis in my experience. They turn very well for skis of their type, but it's kind of pointless to spend too much time fine tuning them as in general your boots will be no where near stiff enough to notice these fine details. _ Booker C. Bense -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBQWrBImTWTAjn5N/lAQFm/gQAg+LQSsJtL2iUiapbmW6j0Gz8ThR8OOCG attYPZVHUMd6KP5uHxb60NtcYLl9gvK++CGYu9WkoubZ1tkkv2 NSMP6m5wBXqpTq ARWE+/jpbrUKtUIof2iznD/qtIx4wcYclYmbIIhDFHqm6n5ER6Iz4OPEtEZ407f+ 59MR0khd5H8= =YNGc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
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On 10/11/04 11:11 AM, in article 8oxad.1303$uN4.414@trndny05, "Tommy T."
wrote: But, what is DHALO? Delayed harvest, artificial lures only. http://tinyurl.com/4zn3z Bill Tommy T. "William Claspy" wrote in message ... On 10/8/04 11:46 PM, in article , "George Cleveland" wrote: Just bought a pair of Fischer Crown Outbounds. Having never owned a pair of metal edged skis of any type before, I was wondering if anyone had a favorite website that deals with the ins and outs of taking care of this type of ski (detuning, how the metal edges affect base waxing, etc.). I'm not a novice when it comes to ski care.I own almost a dozen pair of Nordic skis from racing skate to my old yellow Epoke 1000s. I've Nordic skied for 30 years and am familiar with nordic wax from Grundvax to Flourocarbon...but I don't know the first thing about maintaining a metal edge ski. Help? Glad you asked this, George. Need to get the XCDs I bought last year cleaned up and ready to go. Dang, those edges rust up fast! But the PA DHALO streams are open as long as the water is running, so I'm not putting the Sage away yet :-) Cheers! Bill |
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On 10/11/04 1:21 PM, in article , "Booker C.
Bense" bbense+rec.skiing.backcountry.Oct.11.04@telemark. slac.stanford.edu wrote: _ Buy something from tognar just to get the catalog. It's one of the best tutorials around. There are some tricks to dealing with metal edged waxless skis that I've only picked up via experience. snip Thanks for the recommendations, Booker! Bill |
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On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 17:21:39 +0000 (UTC), Booker C. Bense
bbense+rec.skiing.backcountry.Oct.11.04@telemark. slac.stanford.edu wrote: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- In article , William Claspy wrote: On 10/8/04 11:46 PM, in article , "George Cleveland" wrote: Just bought a pair of Fischer Crown Outbounds. Having never owned a pair of metal edged skis of any type before, I was wondering if anyone had a favorite website that deals with the ins and outs of taking care of this type of ski (detuning, how the metal edges affect base waxing, etc.). I'm not a novice when it comes to ski care.I own almost a dozen pair of Nordic skis from racing skate to my old yellow Epoke 1000s. I've Nordic skied for 30 years and am familiar with nordic wax from Grundvax to Flourocarbon...but I don't know the first thing about maintaining a metal edge ski. Help? Glad you asked this, George. Need to get the XCDs I bought last year cleaned up and ready to go. Dang, those edges rust up fast! _ Buy something from tognar just to get the catalog. It's one of the best tutorials around. There are some tricks to dealing with metal edged waxless skis that I've only picked up via experience. _ Basically, all you need to do with metal edged skis of this type is keep the edges rust free and relatively sharp and square. All the advanced tuning possible for alpine skis is kind of pointless on a waxless ski base, although I recommend waxing the "crown" part of the base and using a soft brush to remove the excess wax once a season and you definitely want to wax the non-crown part fairly frequently. _ Sharpening theses skis with standard tools is kind of difficult without also removing some of the waxless base as well. In general the edges are much thinner than on a regular alpine ski to save weight and this creates problems for maintaining them. _ Get a red "soft stone" for polishing and burr removal. The best tool I've found for regular sharpening of these small edges is a small plastic tool with two small stones held at 90 degree angle. It looks like a cheapo piece of junk, but in this case it actually works pretty well. You can do it with a file, but it requires much more care than usual and all the fancy file angling tools don't work very well on such thin edges. The basic FK pocket tuner works fairly well, since you can control how much of the file actually touches the base. This is probably the best tool for more serious work, but in general you want to sharpen these edges much less frequently since you have much less material to work with. _ Detuning is not much of an issue with these skis in my experience. They turn very well for skis of their type, but it's kind of pointless to spend too much time fine tuning them as in general your boots will be no where near stiff enough to notice these fine details. _ Booker C. Bense Excellent stuff Booker. Thank you very much. g.c. |
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