Mens Relay

Go to Fasterskier.com to get live updates of the relay. Swenson didn't
start for the US its Freeman (good first leg), Chamberlain, Johnson and
Flora.

Dave

14:11 NOW! It's Germany and Russia sprinting for silver... Axel
Teichmann digging deep... The German edges ahead... One metre... Two
metres... AND THAT'S THE RACE! GERMANY RECOVER FOR A STELLAR SILVER
PERFORMANCE!!! RUSSIA TAKE THE BRONZE.

14:10 INTO THE FINISH: And it's all about Norway! Tore Ruud Hofstad
grabs a flag and coasts to the finish for the gold!!!

14:08 MEANWHILE... World Cup leader Axel Teichmann is in locomotive
mode... He's overhauled Cristian Zorzi for bronze... CAN HE CATCH RUSSIAN
BOLCHAKOV FOR SILVER??? STAY TUNED...

14:06 At the final time split (km 8.1 of this 10km anchor leg), it's
safe to say: Tore Ruud Hofstad is home free for Norway, 43.3 sec better than
Russia.

13:59 NORWAY MAKING THEIR MOVE... Torre Ruudd Hofsted is off the front
and fighting to a 28.2 sec lead over Russian Nikolai Bolchakov... Italy's
Cristian Zorzi almost has Bolchakov in his sights, 56.2 sec adrift in
third...

13:50 Bronze, however, is still within Germany's reach, as the home
nation are chasing with World Cup leader Axel Teichmann in the anchor
position...

13:48 Italy currently in third, as Cristian Zorzi hauls out for his
anchor-leg duties. The Italians are 56 sec behind, but they've put some time
on Germany, now trailing 1 min 35 sec off the pace in fourth...

13:44 ANCHOR LEG: Biathlon specialist Lars Berger sweeps into the
finish, punching a 2.7 sec gap between the Russians... Berger to the line
and handing off to Torre Ruud Hofstad, bronze medallist in the 15km race
last week...

13:39 Closing in on the fourth and final exchange... It's status quo,
Russia and Norway trading turns at the front of the race. The battle for
third, however, is heating up as Germany, Italy and France are grouped and
hunting hard, 55 sec back of the two leaders...

13:28 Norway and Russia still locked in battle. Lars Berger setting the
pace, but he can't shake his Russian shadow. It's looking more and more like
a mano-a-mano battle for gold, as third placed Germany are now 1 min 3 sec
off the pace...

13:20 2ND EXCHANGE: Norway get there first... And it's Lars Berger
hauling out on course as the race switches from Classic to Free
techniques... Russia are right on their tails, these two nations cruising
far into the lead. Italy is third at 58.8 seconds...

Looking at the splits, the US had two good legs and 2 not so good legs.
Freeman was 6th on his leg 9the lead off) and Johnson was 5th on the third
leg (I think 8th fastest skate leg of the day). Had we had one other good
leg we would have been 9th (9-11 were separated by 1 second) or 8th. Looks
like Flora ran out of gas at the end, he was up close to 20 seconds on the
eventual 9 and 10 slots with less than 2K to go.

Those results are not what we expected when the season started, but given
the way the season has gone, they are pretty good, we didn't get lapped.
But that does not mean some serious questions need to be asked at the end of
this season.

My optimistic side says that now they are healthy and maybe we will have
better results from here out. It doesn't make up for a season of
disappointments but at this point any bright spot is welcome.

I can't wait to see Jannes downloads. Looks like quite a bit of movement on
that last leg, Teichman had an amzing leg.

Dave
"32 degrees" wrote in message
...
14:11 NOW! It's Germany and Russia sprinting for silver... Axel
Teichmann digging deep... The German edges ahead... One metre... Two
metres... AND THAT'S THE RACE! GERMANY RECOVER FOR A STELLAR SILVER
PERFORMANCE!!! RUSSIA TAKE THE BRONZE.

14:10 INTO THE FINISH: And it's all about Norway! Tore Ruud Hofstad
grabs a flag and coasts to the finish for the gold!!!

14:08 MEANWHILE... World Cup leader Axel Teichmann is in locomotive
mode... He's overhauled Cristian Zorzi for bronze... CAN HE CATCH RUSSIAN
BOLCHAKOV FOR SILVER??? STAY TUNED...

14:06 At the final time split (km 8.1 of this 10km anchor leg), it's
safe to say: Tore Ruud Hofstad is home free for Norway, 43.3 sec better
than Russia.

13:59 NORWAY MAKING THEIR MOVE... Torre Ruudd Hofsted is off the
front and fighting to a 28.2 sec lead over Russian Nikolai Bolchakov...
Italy's Cristian Zorzi almost has Bolchakov in his sights, 56.2 sec adrift
in third...

13:50 Bronze, however, is still within Germany's reach, as the home
nation are chasing with World Cup leader Axel Teichmann in the anchor
position...

13:48 Italy currently in third, as Cristian Zorzi hauls out for his
anchor-leg duties. The Italians are 56 sec behind, but they've put some
time on Germany, now trailing 1 min 35 sec off the pace in fourth...

13:44 ANCHOR LEG: Biathlon specialist Lars Berger sweeps into the
finish, punching a 2.7 sec gap between the Russians... Berger to the line
and handing off to Torre Ruud Hofstad, bronze medallist in the 15km race
last week...

13:39 Closing in on the fourth and final exchange... It's status quo,
Russia and Norway trading turns at the front of the race. The battle for
third, however, is heating up as Germany, Italy and France are grouped and
hunting hard, 55 sec back of the two leaders...

13:28 Norway and Russia still locked in battle. Lars Berger setting the
pace, but he can't shake his Russian shadow. It's looking more and more
like a mano-a-mano battle for gold, as third placed Germany are now 1 min
3 sec off the pace...

13:20 2ND EXCHANGE: Norway get there first... And it's Lars Berger
hauling out on course as the race switches from Classic to Free
techniques... Russia are right on their tails, these two nations cruising
far into the lead. Italy is third at 58.8 seconds...

What site are you picking up the splits from?

I suspect there was a lot of pressure and the workings of pride
internally on the US team to put up a decent showing in this race. Same
for Axel Teichmann. No doubt the sackings of Carl Swenson and Rene
Sommerfeldt had some effects on the respective teams. Freeman had about
the 11th fastest classical leg of the 34.

Gene


Dave Mayo-Kiely wrote:

Looking at the splits, the US had two good legs and 2 not so good legs.
Freeman was 6th on his leg 9the lead off) and Johnson was 5th on the third
leg (I think 8th fastest skate leg of the day). Had we had one other good
leg we would have been 9th (9-11 were separated by 1 second) or 8th. Looks
like Flora ran out of gas at the end, he was up close to 20 seconds on the
eventual 9 and 10 slots with less than 2K to go.

Those results are not what we expected when the season started, but given
the way the season has gone, they are pretty good, we didn't get lapped.
But that does not mean some serious questions need to be asked at the end of
this season.

My optimistic side says that now they are healthy and maybe we will have
better results from here out. It doesn't make up for a season of
disappointments but at this point any bright spot is welcome.

I can't wait to see Jannes downloads. Looks like quite a bit of movement on
that last leg, Teichman had an amzing leg.

Dave

Did the guys get beat by the Chinese, like the chicks did?

At least we didn't get lapped.....small victories.

bt

http://www.fis-ski.com/pdf/2005/CC/2...05CC2339RL.pdf

Dave

"Gene Goldenfeld" wrote in message
...
What site are you picking up the splits from?

I suspect there was a lot of pressure and the workings of pride
internally on the US team to put up a decent showing in this race. Same
for Axel Teichmann. No doubt the sackings of Carl Swenson and Rene
Sommerfeldt had some effects on the respective teams. Freeman had about
the 11th fastest classical leg of the 34.

Gene


Dave Mayo-Kiely wrote:

Looking at the splits, the US had two good legs and 2 not so good legs.
Freeman was 6th on his leg 9the lead off) and Johnson was 5th on the
third
leg (I think 8th fastest skate leg of the day). Had we had one other
good
leg we would have been 9th (9-11 were separated by 1 second) or 8th.
Looks
like Flora ran out of gas at the end, he was up close to 20 seconds on
the
eventual 9 and 10 slots with less than 2K to go.

Those results are not what we expected when the season started, but given
the way the season has gone, they are pretty good, we didn't get lapped.
But that does not mean some serious questions need to be asked at the end
of
this season.

My optimistic side says that now they are healthy and maybe we will have
better results from here out. It doesn't make up for a season of
disappointments but at this point any bright spot is welcome.

I can't wait to see Jannes downloads. Looks like quite a bit of movement
on
that last leg, Teichman had an amzing leg.

Dave

Yeah, I saw that table. What I don't see is where you are getting the
intra-lap times, such as Lars Flora's.

Gene

Dave Mayo-Kiely wrote:

http://www.fis-ski.com/pdf/2005/CC/2...05CC2339RL.pdf

Dave

"Gene Goldenfeld" wrote in message
...
What site are you picking up the splits from?

I suspect there was a lot of pressure and the workings of pride
internally on the US team to put up a decent showing in this race. Same
for Axel Teichmann. No doubt the sackings of Carl Swenson and Rene
Sommerfeldt had some effects on the respective teams. Freeman had about
the 11th fastest classical leg of the 34.

Gene


Dave Mayo-Kiely wrote:

Looking at the splits, the US had two good legs and 2 not so good legs.
Freeman was 6th on his leg 9the lead off) and Johnson was 5th on the
third
leg (I think 8th fastest skate leg of the day). Had we had one other
good
leg we would have been 9th (9-11 were separated by 1 second) or 8th.
Looks
like Flora ran out of gas at the end, he was up close to 20 seconds on
the
eventual 9 and 10 slots with less than 2K to go.

Those results are not what we expected when the season started, but given
the way the season has gone, they are pretty good, we didn't get lapped.
But that does not mean some serious questions need to be asked at the end
of
this season.

My optimistic side says that now they are healthy and maybe we will have
better results from here out. It doesn't make up for a season of
disappointments but at this point any bright spot is welcome.

I can't wait to see Jannes downloads. Looks like quite a bit of movement
on
that last leg, Teichman had an amzing leg.

Dave

A link off of fasterskier this morning that is no longer working. I think
it was from the FIS, their live results, not erosports. It provided about 6
splits for each leg and was updated when any skier passed the marker. You
could then scroll through to any section of the race to see what the
standings were at that point. Pretty interesting to look though it. I was
able to 'watch' the race this morning and could still access them until late
this morning. Worth checking out for future races.

Dave




"Gene Goldenfeld" wrote in message
...
Yeah, I saw that table. What I don't see is where you are getting the
intra-lap times, such as Lars Flora's.

Gene

Dave Mayo-Kiely wrote:

http://www.fis-ski.com/pdf/2005/CC/2...05CC2339RL.pdf

Dave

"Gene Goldenfeld" wrote in message
...
What site are you picking up the splits from?

I suspect there was a lot of pressure and the workings of pride
internally on the US team to put up a decent showing in this race.
Same
for Axel Teichmann. No doubt the sackings of Carl Swenson and Rene
Sommerfeldt had some effects on the respective teams. Freeman had
about
the 11th fastest classical leg of the 34.

Gene


Dave Mayo-Kiely wrote:

Looking at the splits, the US had two good legs and 2 not so good
legs.
Freeman was 6th on his leg 9the lead off) and Johnson was 5th on the
third
leg (I think 8th fastest skate leg of the day). Had we had one other
good
leg we would have been 9th (9-11 were separated by 1 second) or 8th.
Looks
like Flora ran out of gas at the end, he was up close to 20 seconds on
the
eventual 9 and 10 slots with less than 2K to go.

Those results are not what we expected when the season started, but
given
the way the season has gone, they are pretty good, we didn't get
lapped.
But that does not mean some serious questions need to be asked at the
end
of
this season.

My optimistic side says that now they are healthy and maybe we will
have
better results from here out. It doesn't make up for a season of
disappointments but at this point any bright spot is welcome.

I can't wait to see Jannes downloads. Looks like quite a bit of
movement
on
that last leg, Teichman had an amzing leg.

Dave

According to Kris, Lars broke a pole with about 200 meters left to
race. kris felt that he would have been 9th without that problem.

Kris had 8 good Ks before everything shut down. He lost 36 seconds in
two Ks, one of which was downhill. But he's pleased because following
the pace is easy when he's got the legs. He feels as though he'd be in
contention for medals without the virus that's gotten into him.

Zach


Dave Mayo-Kiely wrote:
Looking at the splits, the US had two good legs and 2 not so good
legs.
Freeman was 6th on his leg 9the lead off) and Johnson was 5th on the
third
leg (I think 8th fastest skate leg of the day). Had we had one other
good
leg we would have been 9th (9-11 were separated by 1 second) or 8th.
Looks
like Flora ran out of gas at the end, he was up close to 20 seconds
on the
eventual 9 and 10 slots with less than 2K to go.

Those results are not what we expected when the season started, but
given
the way the season has gone, they are pretty good, we didn't get
lapped.
But that does not mean some serious questions need to be asked at the
end of
this season.

My optimistic side says that now they are healthy and maybe we will
have
better results from here out. It doesn't make up for a season of
disappointments but at this point any bright spot is welcome.

I can't wait to see Jannes downloads. Looks like quite a bit of
movement on
that last leg, Teichman had an amzing leg.

Dave
"32 degrees" wrote in message
...
14:11 NOW! It's Germany and Russia sprinting for silver...
Axel
Teichmann digging deep... The German edges ahead... One metre...
Two
metres... AND THAT'S THE RACE! GERMANY RECOVER FOR A STELLAR SILVER

PERFORMANCE!!! RUSSIA TAKE THE BRONZE.

14:10 INTO THE FINISH: And it's all about Norway! Tore Ruud
Hofstad
grabs a flag and coasts to the finish for the gold!!!

14:08 MEANWHILE... World Cup leader Axel Teichmann is in
locomotive
mode... He's overhauled Cristian Zorzi for bronze... CAN HE CATCH
RUSSIAN
BOLCHAKOV FOR SILVER??? STAY TUNED...

14:06 At the final time split (km 8.1 of this 10km anchor
leg), it's
safe to say: Tore Ruud Hofstad is home free for Norway, 43.3 sec
better
than Russia.

13:59 NORWAY MAKING THEIR MOVE... Torre Ruudd Hofsted is off
the
front and fighting to a 28.2 sec lead over Russian Nikolai
Bolchakov...
Italy's Cristian Zorzi almost has Bolchakov in his sights, 56.2 sec
adrift
in third...

13:50 Bronze, however, is still within Germany's reach, as
the home
nation are chasing with World Cup leader Axel Teichmann in the
anchor
position...

13:48 Italy currently in third, as Cristian Zorzi hauls out
for his
anchor-leg duties. The Italians are 56 sec behind, but they've put
some
time on Germany, now trailing 1 min 35 sec off the pace in
fourth...

13:44 ANCHOR LEG: Biathlon specialist Lars Berger sweeps into
the
finish, punching a 2.7 sec gap between the Russians... Berger to
the line
and handing off to Torre Ruud Hofstad, bronze medallist in the 15km
race
last week...

13:39 Closing in on the fourth and final exchange... It's status
quo,
Russia and Norway trading turns at the front of the race. The
battle for
third, however, is heating up as Germany, Italy and France are
grouped and
hunting hard, 55 sec back of the two leaders...

13:28 Norway and Russia still locked in battle. Lars Berger
setting the
pace, but he can't shake his Russian shadow. It's looking more and
more
like a mano-a-mano battle for gold, as third placed Germany are now
1 min
3 sec off the pace...

13:20 2ND EXCHANGE: Norway get there first... And it's Lars
Berger
hauling out on course as the race switches from Classic to Free
techniques... Russia are right on their tails, these two nations
cruising
far into the lead. Italy is third at 58.8 seconds...