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  #221  
Old December 4th 08, 01:00 PM posted to rec.skiing.alpine
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Bob F wrote:
"taichiskiing" wrote in message
...
On Dec 1, 9:27 am, Yabahoobs wrote:
On Dec 1, 6:38 am, taichiskiing
wrote:
On Dec 1, 6:10 am, downhill wrote:
taichiskiing
Answer this question if you can. I will keep it simple...
If your method of skiing is so high level why is there is no one on this
group that will support your argument?
make it a good one
Have you read the comments made by VtSkier on my "skiing"? He is one
of few honorable persons on this group, and he is the only
"eyewitness" about my "skiing."

IS
What VTSkier has said basically amounts to "he's nothing special, but
he is more capable on skis than his videos display".

THAT is your big testimonial to your "high level skiing" ?

When you have an adversary openy praised your techniques on the 'net,
yes, THAT is a big testimony.


He didn't praise your techniques. He said you skied faster than he did. He said,
IIRC, that he could not really see how your "technique" was anything special.

Anyone who skis as much as you do had better be able to ski well. That says
NOTHING about your "taichiskiing" "technique" as you claim here.


I read these threads and chuckle sometimes at what
other people say that I said.

I posted a long post almost two years ago now saying
that I skied with IS, had a really good time doing so,
that he was a really skillful skier that could ski
anything the mountain had (we never got into the woods),
that I thought there was nothing too special about
his technique except that he didn't use poles.

Then I said I thought he went a bit too fast in areas
designated as slow skiing areas. Then he and I had
a long thread about what "slow" really means. His
position was that 'slow' was relative to ability.
I said that 'slow' was SLOW and that ability had
nothing to do with it. I spoke as a person who on
occasion has to enforce slow skiing areas at my home
mountain and realized that SLOW is for your own
protection as well as others who will be skiing slow
and not have the skills to avoid collisions.
That thread went on for a while and we finally dropped
it.

After that it became apparent that IS thoroughly
enjoyed trolling you folks and so I stayed out of
it.

My opinion is that there is nothing special about
IS's skiing as an expert skier. However he achieves
his own personal Nivarnah is immaterial. He has a
real joy in skiing and his background suggests a
way to explain it. His Nivarnah is no different than
ours.

He may well have something in a teaching method.
Eastern philosophy shows that you can learn something
really well without the need to cerebralize (over-think).

I have watched modern ski instructors. As a group, but
not always as individuals, they tend to over think and
over explain. A thousand or so years ago when I taught
skiing, my approach was pretty much show and do. I
'explained' as little as possible and I tried to impart
the sheer joy of skiing to students at an early stage.
I wanted them as hooked as I was. I wanted them to be
as safe as they could be, but not hampered by thoughts
of crashes.

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  #222  
Old December 4th 08, 01:37 PM posted to rec.skiing.alpine
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On Dec 3, 10:22 am, Dave Cartman wrote:
In article
,

taichiskiing wrote:
Dude, seriously. You are the worst Tai Chi proponent ever. You should
rename your style. Maybe "The Way of the Brick." or "The Way of the
Parrot," or maybe even "The Way of the of The PeeWee Herman."


Dude, seriously, when you present yourself as a netkook, you will be
treated as a netkook.


EXACTLY! Finally! Thank you! This must be how Annie Sullivan felt.


Thanks for your corporation.


IS
  #223  
Old December 4th 08, 01:39 PM posted to rec.skiing.alpine
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On Dec 3, 9:27*am, downhill wrote:
......

"Sorry that you didn't get it this time around, maybe next come humble
and learn something?"


IS
  #224  
Old December 4th 08, 01:42 PM posted to rec.skiing.alpine
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On Dec 3, 8:10 pm, "Bob F" wrote:
"taichiskiing" wrote in message
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When you have an adversary openy praised your techniques on the 'net,
yes, THAT is a big testimony.


He didn't praise your techniques. He said you skied faster than he did. He said,
IIRC, that he could not really see how your "technique" was anything special.


Yup, he may still need some more experience to fully appreciate the
full potential/capability of Flatboarding; he couldn't really keep up
with me if I do ski. Nevertheless, his elegant academic skiing style
is better than most skiers on the slope I've seen.


Anyone who skis as much as you do had better be able to ski well. That says
NOTHING about your "taichiskiing" "technique" as you claim here.


You are living in denials.


IS
  #225  
Old December 4th 08, 01:44 PM posted to rec.skiing.alpine
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On Dec 3, 8:14 pm, "Bob F" wrote:
"taichiskiing" wrote in message
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Actually, some of them do learn, from never-ever to black diamond
rider, in one Chrismas vacation.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uv6hy3ohtjI


Wow! He's 10x the rider you are!

Not a single wildly waving arm.


"You are living in denials."


IS
  #226  
Old December 4th 08, 03:23 PM posted to rec.skiing.alpine
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"taichiskiing" wrote in message
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On Dec 3, 9:27 am, downhill wrote:
......

"Sorry that you didn't get it this time around, maybe next come humble
and learn something?"

***********************************************8

Where's my shovel?


  #227  
Old December 4th 08, 03:26 PM posted to rec.skiing.alpine
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"taichiskiing" wrote in message
...
On Dec 3, 8:10 pm, "Bob F" wrote:
"taichiskiing" wrote in message
...


When you have an adversary openy praised your techniques on the 'net,
yes, THAT is a big testimony.


He didn't praise your techniques. He said you skied faster than he did. He
said,
IIRC, that he could not really see how your "technique" was anything special.


Yup, he may still need some more experience to fully appreciate the
full potential/capability of Flatboarding; he couldn't really keep up
with me if I do ski. Nevertheless, his elegant academic skiing style
is better than most skiers on the slope I've seen.


Anyone who skis as much as you do had better be able to ski well. That says
NOTHING about your "taichiskiing" "technique" as you claim here.


You are living in denials.


Again, the Pot calling the kettle black.




  #228  
Old December 4th 08, 03:27 PM posted to rec.skiing.alpine
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"taichiskiing" wrote in message
...
On Dec 3, 8:14 pm, "Bob F" wrote:
"taichiskiing" wrote in message
...


Actually, some of them do learn, from never-ever to black diamond
rider, in one Chrismas vacation.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uv6hy3ohtjI


Wow! He's 10x the rider you are!

Not a single wildly waving arm.


"You are living in denials."

Pot, kettle, black.


  #229  
Old December 4th 08, 04:42 PM posted to rec.skiing.alpine
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VtSkier wrote:


After that it became apparent that IS thoroughly
enjoyed trolling you folks and so I stayed out of
it.

My opinion is that there is nothing special about
IS's skiing as an expert skier. However he achieves
his own personal Nivarnah is immaterial. He has a
real joy in skiing and his background suggests a
way to explain it. His Nivarnah is no different than
ours.

He may well have something in a teaching method.
Eastern philosophy shows that you can learn something
really well without the need to cerebralize (over-think).

I have watched modern ski instructors. As a group, but
not always as individuals, they tend to over think and
over explain. A thousand or so years ago when I taught
skiing, my approach was pretty much show and do. I
'explained' as little as possible and I tried to impart
the sheer joy of skiing to students at an early stage.
I wanted them as hooked as I was. I wanted them to be
as safe as they could be, but not hampered by thoughts
of crashes.


It becomes clearer now, part of my perspective was my aunt who died a
few months ago was a teacher who had devoted her professional life to
education. She had become the first female to be chairman of the board
of the American chemical society this is an example of a teacher.
Scratchy's claim to teach people was a revolting thought as most people
encourage learning and not berating the person as he could not understand.
I have played, coached and managed club teams to pro teams I have seen
most methods and budgets none of his methods make any sense. I have
worked in japanese gardens raised koi and water gardens and bamboo for
close to 20 years had many international visitors that were a little
involved in eastern ways and culture and none had any traits that
matched him. But since I have been made aware of his true life style as
a troll I will drop this subject, sorry for the noise. I look for new
methods and ideas but you have to be able to flag the bad ones.

My aim is to move my race shop north to be near a mountain so I can ski
regularly and help out with the mountain ski team. I want my son to be
able to ski regularly if he races he races. There is a kart at the shop
with his name on it, so he might catch the bug.
  #230  
Old December 4th 08, 06:16 PM posted to rec.skiing.alpine
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VtSkier wrote:


I read these threads and chuckle ... clip


polite way of putting it.


I have watched modern ski instructors. As a group, but
not always as individuals, they tend to over think and
over explain. A thousand or so years ago when I taught
skiing, my approach was pretty much show and do. I
'explained' as little as possible ... clip


Everyone learns differently, so a good teacher has a large toolbox.

Some decades ago I took a PhD physicist friend from the Lab out for a
little ad-hoc instruction trying to move him from skidded turns to
carving. He could not get the idea - nothing clicked. At lunch I cut a
ski from thin cardboard and showed him how the ski bent into an arc and
drew some vector force diagrams to show him were his cg and
center-of-pressure should be in various parts of the turn. After lunch
he could carve from first run.
Magic.

But yeah: show/do is often the best instruction method, particularly
with young people who haven't channelized yet.
 




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