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Groomed trails in Vermont?
On Jul 18, 11:34*am, downhill wrote:
comadrejo wrote: In article , *toller wrote: Okay, I only like skiing on groomed trails. *I know we are supposed to prefer ungroomed; but I don't. *Back here in WNY ALL trails are groomed. *I can't understand why it isn't like that everywhere. * Part of me thinks that by all means stay on groom trails, and don't leave New York State. *Enjoy the ice, no pain, no enjoyment.... * However, three words of why people go screaming yellow zonkers over powder stashes: Island Lake Lodge. *Once a person goes to untracked endless powder, one thinks skiing groomed blue ice is just too provincial, besides a waste of time.. * You do not race in powder, *many of the race courses are laid out on blue trails that are salted to make ice. I do not ski powder find it is a waste of time and does nothing to help my ski racing. It just abuses my knees. m I have found powder to be the least hardship for my knees. But anyone who likes groomed surface is perfectly correct. Please by all means ski on the groomed. And at Vail. Everybody goes to Vail. |
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Groomed trails in Vermont?
On Jul 18, 12:59*pm, "Bob F" wrote:
toller wrote: Okay, I only like skiing on groomed trails. *I know we are supposed to prefer ungroomed; but I don't. *Back here in WNY ALL trails are groomed. *I can't understand why it isn't like that everywhere. Any how, last winter we went to Sugarbush for a few days. *Marvelous skiing on the groomed trails; didn't much care for the 70% that weren't groomed. Is there anyplace in the region that grooms more? Park city and deer vally groom their slopes to death. Utterly boring unless all you do is straight down bombing. I think the point to the DV grooming is that you can do straight down bombing with less risk of hitting a knee-killing surface disturbance. |
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Groomed trails in Vermont?
On 07/18/2010 12:30 PM, toller wrote:
Okay, I only like skiing on groomed trails. I know we are supposed to prefer ungroomed; but I don't. Back here in WNY ALL trails are groomed. I can't understand why it isn't like that everywhere. Any how, last winter we went to Sugarbush for a few days. Marvelous skiing on the groomed trails; didn't much care for the 70% that weren't groomed. Is there anyplace in the region that grooms more? Okemo (Slow-kemo) Stratton Sugarbush North is probably more groomed than South. Mount Snow Stowe, Spruce Peak side Madonna Forget: Stowe, Mt Mansfield side Jay Mad River Sugarbush South Killington, yeah there's lots groomed here, but ice from manmade forms quickly Pico, Lots of easy stuff groomed on lower, Only one or two trails from the top and racing on the better lower trails |
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Groomed trails in Vermont?
On Sun, 18 Jul 2010 10:14:05 -0700 (PDT), twobuddha
wrote this crap: Excuse me? How DARE you ask a skiing question? This is MY newsgroup, and the only topics allowed are under my control. Who made you the moderator, dumbass? The current discussion is about Tranny Boob Thompson's male rape fantasies. Discuss. More like this is a discussion about your dumbassness. Oh, yeah. Ski Dear Valet before you die. You got no authority here. Go back to your basement and suck on a gun barrel, dumbass. paint your wall with your brains. The world will be a better place. Vote for Palin-Brown in 2012. Repeal the nightmares. A mighty Hungarian warrior The blood of Attila runs through me |
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Groomed trails in Vermont?
"Norm" wrote in message ... "comadrejo" wrote in message news:comadrejoagua- Okay, I only like skiing on groomed trails. I know we are supposed to prefer ungroomed; but I don't. Back here in WNY ALL trails are groomed. I can't understand why it isn't like that everywhere. Part of me thinks that by all means stay on groom trails, and don't leave New York State. Enjoy the ice, no pain, no enjoyment.... However, three words of why people go screaming yellow zonkers over powder stashes: Island Lake Lodge. Once a person goes to untracked endless powder, one thinks skiing groomed blue ice is just too provincial, besides a waste of time.. Any how, last winter we went to Sugarbush for a few days. Marvelous skiing on the groomed trails; didn't much care for the 70% that weren't groomed. Is there anyplace in the region that grooms more? Look at the mega ski areas traffic, if they have large amount of snowmaking equipment, or more likely, ice making equipment, they probably do lots of grooming. There is a time and place to ski and ski in control on ice, but one should learn to ski different conditions, from blue ice, to Sierra Cement and Cascade Crud to Interior BC powder and Hokkaido powder... Interior BC powder is just a myth, it doesn't really happen. I hear Vail is nice, tho... You want Powder? Best kept secret is Powder King BC. Over 40' snowfall every winter. Up to your ass in the stuff. |
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Groomed trails in Vermont?
On Jul 18, 5:18*pm, A mighty Hungarian
wrote: On Sun, 18 Jul 2010 10:14:05 -0700 (PDT), twobuddha wrote this crap: Excuse me? How DARE you ask a skiing question? This is MY newsgroup, and the only topics allowed are under my control. Who made you the moderator, dumbass? God. Argue with Him. I own this ********. The current discussion is about Tranny Boob Thompson's male rape fantasies. *Discuss. More like this is a discussion about your dumbassness. You did not discuss Tranny Boob's male rape fantasies, which are disturbingly similar to YOUR male rape fantasies. The truth is out. You hide your identity and never have or will be man enough to talk crap in person because you are afraid of being raped. Which in your case is very understandable, given your years of rooming with Bubba. Oh, yeah. *Ski Dear Valet before you die. You got no authority here. Got plenty of authority. I talk, you act like a pussy on command. I own you. *Go back to your basement and suck on a gun barrel, dumbass. *paint your wall with your brains. *The world will be a better place. The world would be a much better place if you finally manned up and made good on your threats of facing me in person. I guarantee it. The next day, everything will seem as if it were groomed. Flowers will bloom. Bubba will grieve. Now go back to your basement, suck on Bubba's vuvuzela, and paint the wall with his splooge. |
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Groomed trails in Vermont?
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, twobuddha wrote: On Jul 18, 5:18*pm, A mighty Hungarian wrote: On Sun, 18 Jul 2010 10:14:05 -0700 (PDT), twobuddha wrote this crap: Excuse me? How DARE you ask a skiing question? This is MY newsgroup, and the only topics allowed are under my control. Who made you the moderator, dumbass? God. Argue with Him. I own this ********. Wow. How sad must your life be that you keep telling yourself this stuff over and over and over and over... -- Alan Baker Vancouver, British Columbia http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg |
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Groomed trails in Vermont?
"Stuart" wrote in message ... Part of me thinks that by all means stay on groom trails, and don't leave New York State. Enjoy the ice, no pain, no enjoyment.... However, three words of why people go screaming yellow zonkers over powder stashes: Island Lake Lodge. Once a person goes to untracked endless powder, one thinks skiing groomed blue ice is just too provincial, besides a waste of time.. Any how, last winter we went to Sugarbush for a few days. Marvelous skiing on the groomed trails; didn't much care for the 70% that weren't groomed. Is there anyplace in the region that grooms more? Look at the mega ski areas traffic, if they have large amount of snowmaking equipment, or more likely, ice making equipment, they probably do lots of grooming. There is a time and place to ski and ski in control on ice, but one should learn to ski different conditions, from blue ice, to Sierra Cement and Cascade Crud to Interior BC powder and Hokkaido powder... Interior BC powder is just a myth, it doesn't really happen. I hear Vail is nice, tho... You want Powder? Yes... Best kept secret is Powder King BC. My first reaction was - Not any more... But I suppose its remote enough that it doesn't matter who knows. Been meaning to go there for years now. Over 40' snowfall every winter. Up to your ass in the stuff. |
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Groomed trails in Vermont?
lal_truckee wrote:
On 7/18/10 11:34 AM, downhill wrote: I do not ski powder find it is a waste of time and does nothing to help my ski racing. It just abuses my knees. downhill, lots of top coaches send their charges out for free-ski days when the pow's fresh. It is said to improve a racer's skiing in numerous ways, not the least balance from unanticipated condition changes. It's hard to train for that on a course, since the course is all about anticipation. All part of training. But IIRC Daron Rahlves was injured while off piste training at Sugar Bowl 6 or 7 years ago at the height of his WC career, so it's not all gravy... If you do decide to try powder make sure to set your bindings to some rational DIN; a decade or so ago my boy strained his knee skiing powder on his 223 Volkl DH skis, Markers set at 20. And then don't forget to put the DIN back up for racing. No chance will I try powder, my skiing is based on my ice skating experience. So I do a lot of weight transfer from one ski to other and in powder it don't work I have tried. At my age I can only do x amount to my knees and legs, so I would rather do a half day of gate training and then go sit in hot tub or do nastar runs until I start to go slower, about 15 runs. All the coaches have been surprised at the directions I can follow with the little ski experience I have. If I were to change my binding I would remember as I spend my days adjusting things and recording parameters on race cars. Been playing with load cells and trying to figure out a method of measuring out of chart din setting. But that is way in the background as my pressing issue is to reduce low speed understeer in a subaru. |
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Groomed trails in Vermont?
downhill wrote:
But that is way in the background as my pressing issue is to reduce low speed understeer in a subaru. Well, that's easy. Just don't drive at low speed. HTH. HAND. //Walt |
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