Here's the thread where Scumbag claims he has a Master's Degree

http://makeashorterlink.com/?Z39B5239D

Post no. 10 -

Where's the lie, **** head?

clarencedarrow wrote:
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Post no. 10 -

Where's the lie, **** head?

Just FYI..the link doesn't work....try www.tinyurl.com

Yabahoobs wrote:
clarencedarrow wrote:
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Post no. 10 -

Where's the lie, **** head?

Just FYI..the link doesn't work....try www.tinyurl.com

Mine works but here's the post below

Scott wrote:

David Mann proved that he is completely lacking in insight when he
continued his arrogant, patronizing lectures on the state of the net::

Give it up.
Tina baited you and you swallowed her ruse hook, line, sinker
and bobber. She entered into the fray with the intent of
working you up into a frenzy and she succeeded beyond her
wildest imagination. You were played like a violin.


Sure was. I tend to get seriously ****ed off when people attack my
reputation with malice aforethought. I find it an interesting comment
on your character (or lack of such) that you never condemned the
outright lies and blatant ad hominem attacks used by that bitch, and
indeed, you supported her in her efforts.
I can only conclude that you support the use of slander and libel by
anonymous parties on the net. You certainly have no compunctions about

repeating such vomit.
As I said, Mann, you are a flaming hypocrit.
Goodness.... if anyone has any interest in that debacle,
they can go to DejaNews and search for topics like
"TB vs TC" or some such. They can make up their own minds.

And why, pray tell, did you see fit to launch your own ad hominem
attack
with a reference to that fiasco? What venom are you spouting?
One reason I loathe liars so much is that the effects of their lies
continue to affect the victims of their manipulations long after they
have disappeared, like Anna and Carl Norcross: I have to cope with the
unfair, painful afterefrfects.
For example, when Anthea and I mentioned that we were going to hook up
for some skiing in Canada, several members of the group e-mailed her
with a warning based on Anna DeWitt's blatant and obvious attempt to
deflect attention from her own dishonesty by attacking the guy who
objected to her lies.
Though I certainly understood the motivation behind their actions, I
was
also deeply hurt. Other than the liar herself and her pathetic
husband,
I am the only person who knows the whole story, and I know damn well
that I do not deserve, in any way whatsoever, to be tarred with that
brush.
When you repeat such lies, liar, you are a liar, and you perpetuate the

damage caused by the original actions. And I have to live with the
consequences..
Haven't seen anti-social behavior in this group?
Scott, imo you regularly cross that line. You are
a better writer than 99% of the people in the group.
You have a very quick wit. You are genuinely funny much
of the time. But you lack restraint. You lack self control.
There was nothing funny about your flame of Raitman. Nothing.


Funny. I got three e-mails from people in the industry who were
laughing their butts off, Mann. Four or five others from friends.
About eight to one against you, at the moment.
Once again, I'm forced to conclude that you lack a sense of humour, and

that you are a egotistical blowhard who has nothing better to do than
try to control how other people express themselves.
..
: newsgroups that deal with healing from childhood sexual abuse. To
: conflate a few jokes and a ****ing match on rsa into a threat to the net
: is ludicrous, David.

OK, I'll pass that on to Spaf if I get the opportunity.
And I suppose Mr. Raitman, clearly a newbie, has interpretted
your response to his complaint as a few jokes and a ****ing
contest?


If he has a sense of humor, yes. But since he is much like you, and
sees fit to indulge himself in the same ways, I don't suppose he likes
it much.
I didn't like his attitude, either. He can't shut me up, and I can't
shut him up. Ain't anarchy wonderful?
For a guy who is worried about the net being censored, you sure love to

be a censor yourself. Why don't you spend your time chiding the
pedophiles over on alt.sex.boys instead of worrying about the how sheep

jokes are going to be the cause of the decline of Western Civilization
as we know it?
: David, I'm the shrink, not you. I also have a sense of humor, unlike

Define shrink. What licensing agency has given you creds?
Do they allow you to make diagonsees over the net?
Yup, I'm pretty humorless in this regard. Right now you
are probably protected by the "it was a spoofed post"
defense.


I have a master's degree in mental health counseling. I am a licensed
alcohol and drug counselor in the state of Washington, and I am in the
process of expanding my licensure. Kiss my ass, and the bill is in the

mail.
You are clearly too enraged to be able to process much right now.


Please cease and desist from projecting your own unacknowledged rage
upon me. I am certainly angry at your unconscionable ad hominem
attack,
and I certainly have a deep and justifiable urge to.....well, I think
anyone can fill in the blank.
Rage is an entirely different phenomenom, and is frequently worked out
by attempting to control the behavior of others in irrational and
inconsistent ways, Mann.
What I've processed is that every time someone lies about me, I stand
up
and call them a liar.
Eventually, they go away, and the world around me is a better place.
If you weren't and if you actually had read the content of my
previous post, you would realize that I am strongly advocating
that usenet evolve. The whole point of my post, which was clearly
lost on you, is that our old concepts of netiquette and freedom
of speech aren't scaling to deal with the geometric growth
the net has seen in the last 2 years. Although you can not
begin to phathom this because of your anger, my post is actually
a challenge to old timers like Glen who chastise somebody
for making an anonymous flame while not speaking out against
your treatment of Raitman (and others).

As I said, anal retentive attempts to control the net. You aren't much

different from me, for your attack was also a flame, simply couched in
academic language. Unlike my attack on Raitman, however, you showed
actual malice with your manipulative, passive agressive digging up of
the past, and your libelous statements.
Too bad you don't hold yourself to the standards you are attempting to
hold me to.
Here is a clue for you, if you can look past your own rage, boyo.
When I flame someone, I do it honestly, openly, and with humor.
You act like a ****y schoolteacher with a corncob up his ass.
Oh, yeah. Here's another clue, Freudian in nature.
You spell "fathom" "phathom" which is preciously close to Phantom,
which
could legitimately be interpreted as a reference to your own shadow
which you are delightfully exposing in these self-contradicting
lectures.
Go do your own work, Mann, and get off my butt.

In the good ol' days, we could settle this by putting eachother
in killfiles. "Tell your sys admin to install tin." A technocratic
answer that is meaningless to the new commercial newbie.


In the good old days, I could challenge your cowardly ass to a duel.
There are times I long for the code of the West: I assure you that you
would learn some manners and etiquette quite quickly.
Snip long lecture, in which Mann totally ignored the reality that he
was
just called an arrogant blowhard who bored everyone with his pedantic
exposes of net culture.
Mann, do you own a mirror?

Ok... you're the shrink... Just where is the line between
Scott Barragh Abraham and TwoBuddah?


Easy to define. As anyone who has ever come to know me through the net

knows, the first thing I say when I meet someone in the flesh is "I
can't do Two Buddha in person". It is completely a creation for the
newsgroup, an accidental and serendipitous character that hhas
literally
taken on a life of its own.
But it begins and ends when I sit down at the keyboard.
A better questions is: where is the line between David Mann, elitist
asshole, and David Mann, human being? Please find that line, and when
you understand the implications of your own persona on the net, come
back and inform us of your progress.
A joke? First of all, your treatment of Mr.Raitman wasn't funny.


Your opinion. I thought it was, so did others.
It was mean. And am I off base in drawing conclusions about
your "misdirected rage"?

Yep. You have no idea of what you are talking about. When I get
seriously angry, I write in my own voice, and I have no problem
expressing my anger.
I am seriously angry at you, dickweed.
Understand?
Well look around Scott. How many other

folks in this group do you see unleashing that kind of garbage
on newbies. I'm telling you Scott, your behavior is unique.

Bull****. Plenty of other folks flame other people around here.
Two Buddha is far from being unique. Flames like that are de rigeurr.
Indeed, look at your own behavior. You flamed me in a far more
dishonest fashion with far less humor, yet you see fit to condemn me.
Mann, get a shrink. Get a good one.
There are flames and flame-wars, there are tasteless jokes
and gutter humor. But buddy, you are way out ahead them all.
You have no peer in this regard. It is sad that you can not
see the extremes of your behavior as being extreme. You
want to defuse the situation by deflecting it as a joke.
Doesn't wash. They are the jokes of the town bully.

Bull**** again, Mann. Bullies try to control by the use of force. Ad
hominem attacks are the use of force, and repeating lies are the use of

force. Conflating a rather innocuous flame that is certainly within
the
bounds of this culture, and making the claim that Two Buddha is far
worse than any other, is the use of force in a verbal setting.
Mann, you are bullying me, and you are incapable of seeing your own
manipulations.
Rat**** got called out for attempting to control the free flow of
discourse, which is a far cry from bullying.
Just another one of your dishonest interpretations, of which I am
seriously wearying.

"I have a master's degree in mental health counseling. I am a licensed
alcohol and drug counselor in the state of Washington, and I am in the
process of expanding my licensure. Kiss my ass, and the bill is in the

mail.

LOL. I wonder which professor taught him that mental health counseling
technique.

Scott where is this degree from ? What accredited school ? Where can
we look you up as an alumni ? When did you serve as a cop ? As a
lawyer ? When did you save the Pope's life ? When did you climb Mt.
Everest ? When did you receive appointment as our nations most
esteemed and manly man ? Or perhaps more realistically, when was the
last REAL job you actually held ? No Scott, not being a fat ass
volunteer at a ski company, a real job. LoL...

You're transparent.

And by the way...this only increases the groups activity rating, which
doesn't by any means deter people from the group. If you can provide a
few (likely made up) names of people who came in here and left, they
are the exception. You are a train wreck. Everyone loves watching one.

Hey, nice to see me lecturing that scumbag Mann again.
What ever happened to that freak?
You're obsessing, wacko. Having fun? What drugs are you using?

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Yabahoobs wrote:
clarencedarrow wrote:
http://makeashorterlink.com/?Z39B5239D

Post no. 10 -

Where's the lie, **** head?

Just FYI..the link doesn't work....try www.tinyurl.com

Mine works but here's the post below

Scott wrote:

David Mann proved that he is completely lacking in insight when he
continued his arrogant, patronizing lectures on the state of the net::

Give it up.
Tina baited you and you swallowed her ruse hook, line, sinker
and bobber. She entered into the fray with the intent of
working you up into a frenzy and she succeeded beyond her
wildest imagination. You were played like a violin.


Sure was. I tend to get seriously ****ed off when people attack my
reputation with malice aforethought. I find it an interesting comment
on your character (or lack of such) that you never condemned the
outright lies and blatant ad hominem attacks used by that bitch, and
indeed, you supported her in her efforts.
I can only conclude that you support the use of slander and libel by
anonymous parties on the net. You certainly have no compunctions about

repeating such vomit.
As I said, Mann, you are a flaming hypocrit.
Goodness.... if anyone has any interest in that debacle,
they can go to DejaNews and search for topics like
"TB vs TC" or some such. They can make up their own minds.

And why, pray tell, did you see fit to launch your own ad hominem
attack
with a reference to that fiasco? What venom are you spouting?
One reason I loathe liars so much is that the effects of their lies
continue to affect the victims of their manipulations long after they
have disappeared, like Anna and Carl Norcross: I have to cope with the
unfair, painful afterefrfects.
For example, when Anthea and I mentioned that we were going to hook up
for some skiing in Canada, several members of the group e-mailed her
with a warning based on Anna DeWitt's blatant and obvious attempt to
deflect attention from her own dishonesty by attacking the guy who
objected to her lies.
Though I certainly understood the motivation behind their actions, I
was
also deeply hurt. Other than the liar herself and her pathetic
husband,
I am the only person who knows the whole story, and I know damn well
that I do not deserve, in any way whatsoever, to be tarred with that
brush.
When you repeat such lies, liar, you are a liar, and you perpetuate the

damage caused by the original actions. And I have to live with the
consequences..
Haven't seen anti-social behavior in this group?
Scott, imo you regularly cross that line. You are
a better writer than 99% of the people in the group.
You have a very quick wit. You are genuinely funny much
of the time. But you lack restraint. You lack self control.
There was nothing funny about your flame of Raitman. Nothing.


Funny. I got three e-mails from people in the industry who were
laughing their butts off, Mann. Four or five others from friends.
About eight to one against you, at the moment.
Once again, I'm forced to conclude that you lack a sense of humour, and

that you are a egotistical blowhard who has nothing better to do than
try to control how other people express themselves.
.
: newsgroups that deal with healing from childhood sexual abuse. To
: conflate a few jokes and a ****ing match on rsa into a threat to the
net
: is ludicrous, David.

OK, I'll pass that on to Spaf if I get the opportunity.
And I suppose Mr. Raitman, clearly a newbie, has interpretted
your response to his complaint as a few jokes and a ****ing
contest?


If he has a sense of humor, yes. But since he is much like you, and
sees fit to indulge himself in the same ways, I don't suppose he likes
it much.
I didn't like his attitude, either. He can't shut me up, and I can't
shut him up. Ain't anarchy wonderful?
For a guy who is worried about the net being censored, you sure love to

be a censor yourself. Why don't you spend your time chiding the
pedophiles over on alt.sex.boys instead of worrying about the how sheep

jokes are going to be the cause of the decline of Western Civilization
as we know it?
: David, I'm the shrink, not you. I also have a sense of humor, unlike

Define shrink. What licensing agency has given you creds?
Do they allow you to make diagonsees over the net?
Yup, I'm pretty humorless in this regard. Right now you
are probably protected by the "it was a spoofed post"
defense.


I have a master's degree in mental health counseling. I am a licensed
alcohol and drug counselor in the state of Washington, and I am in the
process of expanding my licensure. Kiss my ass, and the bill is in the

mail.
You are clearly too enraged to be able to process much right now.


Please cease and desist from projecting your own unacknowledged rage
upon me. I am certainly angry at your unconscionable ad hominem
attack,
and I certainly have a deep and justifiable urge to.....well, I think
anyone can fill in the blank.
Rage is an entirely different phenomenom, and is frequently worked out
by attempting to control the behavior of others in irrational and
inconsistent ways, Mann.
What I've processed is that every time someone lies about me, I stand
up
and call them a liar.
Eventually, they go away, and the world around me is a better place.
If you weren't and if you actually had read the content of my
previous post, you would realize that I am strongly advocating
that usenet evolve. The whole point of my post, which was clearly
lost on you, is that our old concepts of netiquette and freedom
of speech aren't scaling to deal with the geometric growth
the net has seen in the last 2 years. Although you can not
begin to phathom this because of your anger, my post is actually
a challenge to old timers like Glen who chastise somebody
for making an anonymous flame while not speaking out against
your treatment of Raitman (and others).

As I said, anal retentive attempts to control the net. You aren't much

different from me, for your attack was also a flame, simply couched in
academic language. Unlike my attack on Raitman, however, you showed
actual malice with your manipulative, passive agressive digging up of
the past, and your libelous statements.
Too bad you don't hold yourself to the standards you are attempting to
hold me to.
Here is a clue for you, if you can look past your own rage, boyo.
When I flame someone, I do it honestly, openly, and with humor.
You act like a ****y schoolteacher with a corncob up his ass.
Oh, yeah. Here's another clue, Freudian in nature.
You spell "fathom" "phathom" which is preciously close to Phantom,
which
could legitimately be interpreted as a reference to your own shadow
which you are delightfully exposing in these self-contradicting
lectures.
Go do your own work, Mann, and get off my butt.

In the good ol' days, we could settle this by putting eachother
in killfiles. "Tell your sys admin to install tin." A technocratic
answer that is meaningless to the new commercial newbie.


In the good old days, I could challenge your cowardly ass to a duel.
There are times I long for the code of the West: I assure you that you
would learn some manners and etiquette quite quickly.
Snip long lecture, in which Mann totally ignored the reality that he
was
just called an arrogant blowhard who bored everyone with his pedantic
exposes of net culture.
Mann, do you own a mirror?

Ok... you're the shrink... Just where is the line between
Scott Barragh Abraham and TwoBuddah?


Easy to define. As anyone who has ever come to know me through the net

knows, the first thing I say when I meet someone in the flesh is "I
can't do Two Buddha in person". It is completely a creation for the
newsgroup, an accidental and serendipitous character that hhas
literally
taken on a life of its own.
But it begins and ends when I sit down at the keyboard.
A better questions is: where is the line between David Mann, elitist
asshole, and David Mann, human being? Please find that line, and when
you understand the implications of your own persona on the net, come
back and inform us of your progress.
A joke? First of all, your treatment of Mr.Raitman wasn't funny.


Your opinion. I thought it was, so did others.
It was mean. And am I off base in drawing conclusions about
your "misdirected rage"?

Yep. You have no idea of what you are talking about. When I get
seriously angry, I write in my own voice, and I have no problem
expressing my anger.
I am seriously angry at you, dickweed.
Understand?
Well look around Scott. How many other

folks in this group do you see unleashing that kind of garbage
on newbies. I'm telling you Scott, your behavior is unique.

Bull****. Plenty of other folks flame other people around here.
Two Buddha is far from being unique. Flames like that are de rigeurr.
Indeed, look at your own behavior. You flamed me in a far more
dishonest fashion with far less humor, yet you see fit to condemn me.
Mann, get a shrink. Get a good one.
There are flames and flame-wars, there are tasteless jokes
and gutter humor. But buddy, you are way out ahead them all.
You have no peer in this regard. It is sad that you can not
see the extremes of your behavior as being extreme. You
want to defuse the situation by deflecting it as a joke.
Doesn't wash. They are the jokes of the town bully.

Bull**** again, Mann. Bullies try to control by the use of force. Ad
hominem attacks are the use of force, and repeating lies are the use of

force. Conflating a rather innocuous flame that is certainly within
the
bounds of this culture, and making the claim that Two Buddha is far
worse than any other, is the use of force in a verbal setting.
Mann, you are bullying me, and you are incapable of seeing your own
manipulations.
Rat**** got called out for attempting to control the free flow of
discourse, which is a far cry from bullying.
Just another one of your dishonest interpretations, of which I am
seriously wearying.

Name. Identity. Certainly if you want such details about MY life, you have
to be willing to identify yourself. Fair is fair. All of you. Every
single freak who goes anonymous. Fair is fair.
Bluff called.

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"I have a master's degree in mental health counseling. I am a licensed
alcohol and drug counselor in the state of Washington, and I am in the
process of expanding my licensure. Kiss my ass, and the bill is in the

mail.

LOL. I wonder which professor taught him that mental health counseling
technique.

Scott where is this degree from ? What accredited school ? Where can
we look you up as an alumni ? When did you serve as a cop ? As a
lawyer ? When did you save the Pope's life ? When did you climb Mt.
Everest ? When did you receive appointment as our nations most
esteemed and manly man ? Or perhaps more realistically, when was the
last REAL job you actually held ? No Scott, not being a fat ass
volunteer at a ski company, a real job. LoL...

You're transparent.

And by the way...this only increases the groups activity rating, which
doesn't by any means deter people from the group. If you can provide a
few (likely made up) names of people who came in here and left, they
are the exception. You are a train wreck. Everyone loves watching one.

Two Buddha wrote:
Name. Identity. Certainly if you want such details about MY life, you have
to be willing to identify yourself. Fair is fair. All of you. Every
single freak who goes anonymous. Fair is fair.
Bluff called.

Oh, so you were lieing again. Ok, just wanted to make sure.

"Yabahoobs" wrote in message
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Two Buddha wrote:
Name. Identity. Certainly if you want such details about MY life, you
have
to be willing to identify yourself. Fair is fair. All of you. Every
single freak who goes anonymous. Fair is fair.
Bluff called.

Oh, so you were lieing again. Ok, just wanted to make sure.

Lying again? For asking your name? You really are deranged.
Bluff called. **** yourself again, freak.



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Two Buddha wrote:
Name. Identity. Certainly if you want such details about MY life, you have
to be willing to identify yourself. Fair is fair. All of you. Every
single freak who goes anonymous. Fair is fair.
Bluff called.

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"Yabahoobs" wrote in message
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"I have a master's degree in mental health counseling. I am a licensed
alcohol and drug counselor in the state of Washington, and I am in the
process of expanding my licensure. Kiss my ass, and the bill is in the

mail.

LOL. I wonder which professor taught him that mental health counseling
technique.

Scott where is this degree from ? What accredited school ? Where can
we look you up as an alumni ? When did you serve as a cop ? As a
lawyer ? When did you save the Pope's life ? When did you climb Mt.
Everest ? When did you receive appointment as our nations most
esteemed and manly man ? Or perhaps more realistically, when was the
last REAL job you actually held ? No Scott, not being a fat ass
volunteer at a ski company, a real job. LoL...

You're transparent.

And by the way...this only increases the groups activity rating, which
doesn't by any means deter people from the group. If you can provide a
few (likely made up) names of people who came in here and left, they
are the exception. You are a train wreck. Everyone loves watching one.

"Master's Degree in Mental Health Counseling"? That shouldn't be too
hard to track down.

BTW, the local diploma mill used to offer a Doctorate in Leadership,
for which you had to pay $500 and attend two weekend workshops. I
found out about it when one of my cow-orkers applied for tuition
reimbursement.