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My comment wasn't about Dave. It was the self appointed net cops that got
on my case when I reminded that asking questions more than once is not necessarily a bad thing as it creates more of a social group than the encyclopedia this group will become if a question can be asked only once. I top post because that's how I respond to emails. It makes reading emails easier. I use the same email tool as I do for the newsgroups so it's a habit. I know there's the official newsgroup format for posting but so few people adhere to it I never bothered. I think it depends on the type of newsgroup if those rules for responding really make sense or not. I've found archives work very well for some groups but not for others. It's my opinion that newsgroups that are used as a discussion forum should be treated differently than newsgroups that are very specific and have the same small group of people all of the time as it was a long time ago when people use a very tightly defined newsgroup to discuss specific things and come to conclusions. Since newsgroups these days are more like discussion forums I haven't bothered to hold to the rules. But maybe I should for this forum since it isn't very active... Scott "Steve Dold" wrote in message ... On Fri, 19 Sep 2003, Scott Lindner wrote: People who read the FAQ are better informed and the questions (which we welcome) are a lot more insightful after they've read it. Dave left a very nice message reminding newcomers that there is a lot of info in the FAQ. He wasn't an a*hole at all. That FAQ was a huge help to me when I started and I appreciate it. I wouldn't have known about it if he hadn't made a similar post pointing it out. If you spend any length of time here, which we hope you do, you'll see how tedius it can become when the same questions are asked over and over and over :-P And quit top posting! Just kidding. But I gotta ask...why quote if you're posting at the top anyway? It makes it really hard to follow the message thread archives when you do that by the way. |
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On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 14:55:06 GMT, "Scott Lindner"
allegedly wrote: I hate to be a dick about this but I wouldn't expect people to do that nor do I plan on doing so myself. The RTFM tactic can be applied to nearly all questions in existence. I didn't say anything about "RTFM". I posted the link to the FAQ that exists for this group, just like there are FAQs for many other groups. Not everyone likes to post messages and ask questions - the FAQ is for them also. Another issue with repeated questions is that people start to not answer. Then you get questions that yield no response and people think that the group is a waste of time, or they think it's run by a clique because the newbie questions aren't good enough for them. This is a newsgroup intended for all people to post questions, share ideas, and yap about whatever as long as it's about snowboarding. Don't stifle that and turn this into a FAQ pimping board. Lurk a bit longer before you make judgements. - Dave. -- The only powder to get high on, falls from the sky. http://www.vpas.org/ - Snowboarding the worlds pow pow - Securing your e-mail The Snowboard FAQ lives here - http://rssFAQ.org/ |
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On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 22:18:14 GMT, "Scott Lindner"
allegedly wrote: I top post because that's how I respond to emails. It makes reading emails easier. Of course, you are entitled to your opinion. But the usenet posting guidelines exist for a good reason, which makes the messages appeal to the majority. It's about being considerate to your fellow person. But maybe I should for this forum since it isn't very active... That's because it's summer in the Northern Hemisphere. Wait until winter and it will pick up to a moderate pace. Personally I wouldn't want 100 or more messages a day (but that's just my opinion). - Dave. -- The only powder to get high on, falls from the sky. http://www.vpas.org/ - Snowboarding the worlds pow pow - Securing your e-mail The Snowboard FAQ lives here - http://rssFAQ.org/ |
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Another issue with repeated questions is that people start to not
answer. Then you get questions that yield no response and people think that the group is a waste of time, or they think it's run by a clique because the newbie questions aren't good enough for them. Even I've lost all desire to answer the questions, "is this board too long for me", "is this board too short for me", and "what length board should I get". As the FAQ says, you might want a 155 in one model, a 165 in another, and a 185 in a third. (Yes, even a lighter rider might ride a big long swallowtail in powder or Super G boar in a competition!) At one point, I was thinking up putting up a website with progressively more complex answers to the question "what length board should I get". It would start with "one that comes up to your chin" and go all the way though my personal opinion which is "total length is irrelevant, what you really care about is sidecut radius and then effective edge" and then go into detail about when certain values might be appropriate. Maybe I should go ahead and do it anyway! Mike T |
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"Mike T" wrote..
"is this board too long for me" No. "is this board too short for me" Yes "what length board should I get". http://www.bomberonline.com/Forums/A...chment_ID=1002 |
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"what length board should I get".
http://www.bomberonline.com/Forums/A...chment_ID=1002 Ah, yes! Das Amputator, 201 cm. |
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"Mike T" wrote in message ...
Another issue with repeated questions is that people start to not answer. Then you get questions that yield no response and people think that the group is a waste of time, or they think it's run by a clique because the newbie questions aren't good enough for them. Even I've lost all desire to answer the questions, "is this board too long for me", "is this board too short for me", and "what length board should I get". As the FAQ says, you might want a 155 in one model, a 165 in another, and a 185 in a third. (Yes, even a lighter rider might ride a big long swallowtail in powder or Super G boar in a competition!) At one point, I was thinking up putting up a website with progressively more complex answers to the question "what length board should I get". It would start with "one that comes up to your chin" and go all the way though my personal opinion which is "total length is irrelevant, what you really care about is sidecut radius and then effective edge" and then go into detail about when certain values might be appropriate. Maybe I should go ahead and do it anyway! Mike T It's just one of those Catch-22's (a book I'm trying to read right now), by the time you know that a FAQ even exists... you've already know most of what it has and therefore don't need it. Most people don't like manuals in general as prefer asking a human for help (else they would have done a web search and not posted on a live forum). It would be something if this was a website with a "getting started" link... but a newsgroup just doesn't have the type of pre-post notification mechanism to tell the user to "check out the FAQ and/or do a search before posting a new question." Personally, I'd much rather have a "board length" question than seeing someone continually post "Please read the FAQ" over and over again (just don't like that solution to the problem). |
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Personally, I'd much rather have a "board length" question than seeing
someone continually post "Please read the FAQ" over and over again (just don't like that solution to the problem). The "board length" question is such a can of worms. Every once in a while the question is asked in a way such that it can be answered... witness Joseph's question about the 135, I just added to the fray on that one. Often times I don't answer because I think there's little chance I can add anything that is useful. I think the "board length" discussion becomes more interesting if the person asking it knows enough to ask the right question. It's difficult to answer to "I'm 5'10", 180 pounds, what size board should I get", but it's easier to answer if someone adds in their shoe size, what kind of riding they want to do, what kind of conditions they usually encounter, what brands they prefer or have access to, how many days on the snow they have and how many days they think they're going to get, how much "natural athletic aptitude" they have and do they want "room to grow into it" or not. With that much information, it becomes a very lively discussion! Mike T |
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