word of warning

With the new automatic cameras in France, if anyone is thinking of using
a radar detector.... leave it at home. Anyone caught with one is banned
from driving on the spot, the detector confiscated. The ban from driving
in France can be as much as 3 years. If you're the only driver in the
car and at the port of arrival, you'll be put straight back on the boat.
If elsewhere in France you'll either have to get your motoring
association to repatriate the car, or get someone from the UK to collect
the car on your behalf.

The authorities in France are determined to crack down and the
ports/airports are being provided with a list of banned drivers. Anyone
previously banned re-entering France faces a heavy fine and a possible
custodial sentence.

The cameras are pretty hard to spot by the way, often hidden behind
signs, bridges etc. Hundreds more being introduced in the next few
months.

Pete

"PG" wrote in message
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With the new automatic cameras in France, if anyone is thinking of using
a radar detector.... leave it at home. Anyone caught with one is banned
from driving on the spot, the detector confiscated. The ban from driving
in France can be as much as 3 years. If you're the only driver in the
car and at the port of arrival, you'll be put straight back on the boat.
If elsewhere in France you'll either have to get your motoring
association to repatriate the car, or get someone from the UK to collect
the car on your behalf.

The authorities in France are determined to crack down and the
ports/airports are being provided with a list of banned drivers. Anyone
previously banned re-entering France faces a heavy fine and a possible
custodial sentence.

The cameras are pretty hard to spot by the way, often hidden behind
signs, bridges etc. Hundreds more being introduced in the next few
months.

Pete



Isn't there a helpful website to tell us where all the cameras are?


--
Paul Schofield

Time flies like an arrow
Fruit flies like a banana

"Paul Schofield" wrote in message
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| The cameras are pretty hard to spot by the way, often hidden behind
| signs, bridges etc. Hundreds more being introduced in the next few
| months.

| Isn't there a helpful website to tell us where all the cameras are?

There is, but with the number of installations programmed during 2004
plus an increase in mobile speed traps, you'd probably lose more time
checking the map as you drive down than you would 'only' driving within
the limit! (6 kph margin for error by the way)...

Pete

PG wrote:
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"PG" wrote in message
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The cameras are pretty hard to spot by the way, often hidden behind
signs, bridges etc. Hundreds more being introduced in the next few
months.

Isn't there a helpful website to tell us where all the cameras are?

There is, but with the number of installations programmed during 2004
plus an increase in mobile speed traps, you'd probably lose more time
checking the map as you drive down than you would 'only' driving
within the limit! (6 kph margin for error by the way)...

do you have a URL?


--
Chris *:-)

Downhill Good, Uphill BAD!

www.suffolkvikings.org.uk

"MoonMan" wrote in message
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| PG wrote:
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| "PG" wrote in message
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| The cameras are pretty hard to spot by the way, often hidden
behind
| signs, bridges etc. Hundreds more being introduced in the next
few
| months.
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| Isn't there a helpful website to tell us where all the cameras are?
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| There is, but with the number of installations programmed during
2004
| plus an increase in mobile speed traps, you'd probably lose more
time
| checking the map as you drive down than you would 'only' driving
| within the limit! (6 kph margin for error by the way)...
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| do you have a URL?

Official sites:

http://www1.securiteroutiere.gouv.fr...dars_fixes.htm
(current fixed locations)
http://www1.securiteroutiere.gouv.fr...f/planning.htm
(planned locations)
http://www1.securiteroutiere.gouv.fr...rs_mobiles.htm
(mobile traps)

Unofficial site (down at moment)

http://www.radarsfixes.com/

Pete

PG wrote:
"MoonMan" wrote in message
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PG wrote:
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"PG" wrote in message
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The cameras are pretty hard to spot by the way, often hidden
behind signs, bridges etc. Hundreds more being introduced in the
next few months.

Isn't there a helpful website to tell us where all the cameras are?

There is, but with the number of installations programmed during
2004 plus an increase in mobile speed traps, you'd probably lose
more time checking the map as you drive down than you would 'only'
driving within the limit! (6 kph margin for error by the way)...

do you have a URL?

Official sites:

http://www1.securiteroutiere.gouv.fr...dars_fixes.htm
(current fixed locations)
http://www1.securiteroutiere.gouv.fr...f/planning.htm
(planned locations)
http://www1.securiteroutiere.gouv.fr...rs_mobiles.htm
(mobile traps)

Unofficial site (down at moment)

http://www.radarsfixes.com/


Thanks, don't think any got me, which sort of cameras are they? film or
electronic?

Chris *:-)

"PG" wrote in message ...
With the new automatic cameras in France, if anyone is thinking of using
a radar detector.... leave it at home. Anyone caught with one is banned
from driving on the spot, the detector confiscated. The ban from driving
in France can be as much as 3 years. If you're the only driver in the
car and at the port of arrival, you'll be put straight back on the boat.
If elsewhere in France you'll either have to get your motoring
association to repatriate the car, or get someone from the UK to collect
the car on your behalf.

The authorities in France are determined to crack down and the
ports/airports are being provided with a list of banned drivers. Anyone
previously banned re-entering France faces a heavy fine and a possible
custodial sentence.

The cameras are pretty hard to spot by the way, often hidden behind
signs, bridges etc. Hundreds more being introduced in the next few
months.

Pete

Are these on the toll motorways?

"Roger" wrote in message
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| "PG" wrote in message
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| The cameras are pretty hard to spot by the way, often hidden behind
| signs, bridges etc. Hundreds more being introduced in the next few
| months.
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| Pete
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| Are these on the toll motorways?

They're being introduced throughout France, but concentrating on the
most dangerous areas such as the Paris ring, various tunnels, etc. Take
a look at http://www.radarsfixes.com/ for more details.

Pete

"PG" wrote:

With the new automatic cameras in France, if anyone is thinking of using
a radar detector.... leave it at home. Anyone caught with one is banned
from driving on the spot, the detector confiscated.


Perhaps I should have expanded on this subject:

Under French law operation of a radar detectors enables the flics to
fine you the top limit on the spot, FFR5000. This is because

a) They are French

b) They use the old continuous output radar detectors which you can
hear from the next county.

If you taking a detector, which I recommend for driving in France,
keep it out of sight. Better still, fit one of the internally wired
detectors which cannot be seen.

The game has changed slightly with tunnel cameras and detectors,
especially at high speeds, are not sufficient to give warning. You
need one of the jammers. Again, preferably one of the internally wired
versions. This will grant immunity from unattended radar traps but I
recommend the detector for is used in addition since the flic manning
the tripod-radar is going to get excited if he sees a car hurtle past
at 320kph and nothing appear on the read-out.


The ban from driving
in France can be as much as 3 years. If you're the only driver in the
car and at the port of arrival, you'll be put straight back on the boat.

"you'll be put straight back on the boat"

Except... there are no French customs at the ports in winter. Big
deal. And a glance at your passport is not going to do much good.
Maybe they memorise the list ?


If elsewhere in France you'll either have to get your motoring
association to repatriate the car, or get someone from the UK to collect
the car on your behalf.


Can be disregarded for most purposes. There are no customs at most
borders and police presence outside automotive-recreation hotspots
like the Jura passes is sparse by European standards, not least
because of the number of flics on sick leave, generally avoiding
duties, etc.


The authorities in France are determined to crack down


'crack down'

Yeah - Crack down on their lack of income from foreign drivers. Not
'crack down' on the second-favorite national sport: Driving like
assholes.


and the
ports/airports are being provided with a list of banned drivers. Anyone
previously banned re-entering France faces a heavy fine and a possible
custodial sentence.


Airports provided with a list ? Gee... better not land my car an
airport.


As soon as time allows I shall post a guide for foreign drivers
speeding through France taking into account the recent changes.

On Fri, 27 Feb 2004 17:11:19 +0000, funkraum
wrote:

As soon as time allows I shall post a guide for foreign drivers
speeding through France taking into account the recent changes.

Do that. I'll post mine now:

Rule 1. Have Swiss plates.

That's all, folks...

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Ski Club of Great Britain - http://www.skiclub.co.uk
All opinions expressed are personal and in no way represent those of the Ski Club.