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New DIN Settings
Please be aware of new DIN/Bindings Settings proposed by french scientists;
Medicin de Montagne. The new settings has the official name of: "Normes Afnor FD S 52-748", and has the goal of lowering knee and ligaments injuries, as oppposed to the old ISO normes, which had the goal of lowering bone fractures. Test for the past 3 year has shown a decrease in knee injuries of 38%, and of ligament injuries of 26% Danish ski federation is pushing the new norm in Denmark. http://www.bernard-sport.be/FixationAfnor.html#tableau |
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On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 14:55:21 +0100, "Ivan Rafn"
wrote: Please be aware of new DIN/Bindings Settings proposed by french scientists; Medicin de Montagne. http://www.bernard-sport.be/FixationAfnor.html#tableau Intersting. There were a couple of methods posted on here recently, at least one of which suggested a much higher setting than I normally use. This one seems about right, depending on whether I'm being a "Bon skieur, ski d'attaque sur tous terrains" or a "Très fort skieur sur terrains engagés" with settings of 8 and 9.5 respectively, which pretty much match what I'd normally use. -- Ace (brucedotrogers a.t rochedotcom) Ski Club of Great Britain - http://www.skiclub.co.uk All opinions expressed are personal and in no way represent those of the Ski Club. |
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Ivan Rafn wrote:
Danish ski federation is pushing the new norm in Denmark. How many ski resorts are there in Denmark? Adrian |
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On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 09:33:08 +0100, Ace squeezed
out the following: On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 14:55:21 +0100, "Ivan Rafn" wrote: Please be aware of new DIN/Bindings Settings proposed by french scientists; Medicin de Montagne. http://www.bernard-sport.be/FixationAfnor.html#tableau Intersting. There were a couple of methods posted on here recently, at least one of which suggested a much higher setting than I normally use. This one seems about right, depending on whether I'm being a "Bon skieur, ski d'attaque sur tous terrains" or a "Très fort skieur sur terrains engagés" with settings of 8 and 9.5 respectively, which pretty much match what I'd normally use. I'm puzzled by the way the best skiers tend to have their bindings set really high. I would have thought they of all people would be letting the skis do all the work and could therefore get away with the lowest settings. -- Colin Irvine |
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Colin Irvine wrote:
On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 09:33:08 +0100, Ace squeezed out the following: On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 14:55:21 +0100, "Ivan Rafn" wrote: Please be aware of new DIN/Bindings Settings proposed by french scientists; Medicin de Montagne. http://www.bernard-sport.be/FixationAfnor.html#tableau Intersting. There were a couple of methods posted on here recently, at least one of which suggested a much higher setting than I normally use. This one seems about right, depending on whether I'm being a "Bon skieur, ski d'attaque sur tous terrains" or a "Très fort skieur sur terrains engagés" with settings of 8 and 9.5 respectively, which pretty much match what I'd normally use. I'm puzzled by the way the best skiers tend to have their bindings set really high. I would have thought they of all people would be letting the skis do all the work and could therefore get away with the lowest settings. It's a kind of yes and no thing... yes, they could ski with lower settings and in theory not release. In practise the better you are the more you will push yourself. In my case I crank the bindings up a bit (nothing stupid, only on 8 1/2) because I know that on occasison I will take a hard landing in the bumps or end up trying to steer a turn in some crud. In the past bindings have released on me in these situations. The reason I don't go higher is because I don't ski (or train) enough to have the leg strength to protect my knees - if I skied more I would have them higher I think. I certainly used to ski with them a lot higher, I wasn't a better skier but my legs were a lot stronger after a few full seasons of skiing. |
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Steve Haigh wrote in
: Colin Irvine wrote: On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 09:33:08 +0100, Ace squeezed out the following: On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 14:55:21 +0100, "Ivan Rafn" wrote: Please be aware of new DIN/Bindings Settings proposed by french scientists; Medicin de Montagne. http://www.bernard-sport.be/FixationAfnor.html#tableau Intersting. There were a couple of methods posted on here recently, at least one of which suggested a much higher setting than I normally use. This one seems about right, depending on whether I'm being a "Bon skieur, ski d'attaque sur tous terrains" or a "Très fort skieur sur terrains engagés" with settings of 8 and 9.5 respectively, which pretty much match what I'd normally use. I'm puzzled by the way the best skiers tend to have their bindings set really high. I would have thought they of all people would be letting the skis do all the work and could therefore get away with the lowest settings. It all depends what you do. Skiing powder or moguls and the ski could release when you are fine based on the "standard" settings, this IMHO is as bad as them not releasing. When I had my own skis it was trial and error. They got set by the shop, I had a hard day or so with them pre-releasing, then whenever they did it I turned them up half a notch until they stopped doing it! Jumping cliffs etc and you need them not to come off even when the binding probably thinks they should! cheers, Greg |
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Greg Hilton wrote:
It all depends what you do. Skiing powder or moguls and the ski could release when you are fine based on the "standard" settings, this IMHO is as bad as them not releasing. True. It is a case of balancing the risks - if you are skiing fast on steep terrain it is probably more dangerous to loose a ski than it is for you to fall and the ski not release. This is assumes you have pretty strong and legs and flexible joints, and there's no hard and fast rule. Sadly plenty of good skiers get injured when the ski doesn't release in time, and I'm sure there are injuries caused by skis pre-releasing. Beginners and intermediates are best advised to take the shops' and manufacturers' advice, more expereinced (or foolhardy) skiers will probably have their own view based on first hand experience. There's a brilliant sequence on the 80s ski video "Blizzard of Ahs" where Scott Schmidt takes a hugh tumble but his skis stay on and he eventually skis out of it all. His goggles were full of snow and he crashed again 2 turns later, but it was a good attempt. Sad git that I am I might have to go and put that on now to get me in the mood for this weekend... |
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Felly sgrifennodd Greg Hilton :
It all depends what you do. Skiing powder or moguls and the ski could release when you are fine based on the "standard" settings, this IMHO is as bad as them not releasing. I haven't messed with my binding settings, but they appear to be set to a surprisingly low 4. Maybe that's because of the shop's equipment (don't they go by what their strain machines tell them, rather than the value given in the window on the binding?). Anyway, during our 15 days' skiing over Christmas and the new year, I skied plenty of moguls and powder off-piste. Granted, I don't ski them aggressively, but I never had a ski release when I didn't want it to. They did, however, release when I did want them to (I'm really bad in poor light, and took a few tumbles in what would normally be the easiest of places). Adrian -- Adrian Shaw ais@ Adran Cyfrifiadureg, Prifysgol Cymru, aber. Aberystwyth, Ceredigion, Cymru ac. http://users.aber.ac.uk/ais uk |
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"Adrian D. Shaw" wrote in message ... I haven't messed with my binding settings, but they appear to be set to a surprisingly low 4. Maybe that's because of the shop's equipment (don't they go by what their strain machines tell them, rather than the value given in the window on the binding?). So what does the chart ( http://www.terrymorse.com/ski/din.html ) say you should be? -- Paul Schofield Time flies like an arrow Fruit flies like a banana |
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Felly sgrifennodd Paul Schofield :
"Adrian D. Shaw" wrote in message ... I haven't messed with my binding settings, but they appear to be set to a surprisingly low 4. Maybe that's because of the shop's equipment (don't they go by what their strain machines tell them, rather than the value given in the window on the binding?). So what does the chart ( http://www.terrymorse.com/ski/din.html ) say you should be? From the chart, I'm a 5 (column 5 row K), plus 1 at step 2, giving a 6. Adrian -- Adrian Shaw ais@ Adran Cyfrifiadureg, Prifysgol Cymru, aber. Aberystwyth, Ceredigion, Cymru ac. http://users.aber.ac.uk/ais uk |
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