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Equipe 10 skate -- stiff versus soft
I'm in a muddle about stiff versus soft in the Salomon Equipe 10 skate
ski. The muddle is because I have a hard-to-pass-up purchase option on a 186cm Equipe 10 soft, whereas I've convinced myself that I preferred stiff skis. My experience has been most with the Atomic RS line, where the stiffness seems to give me added control I need on downhills. I've got Fischer soft SCS classic skis, which seem to be floppy" for me, and don't know how this feel would translate to a skate ski. I greatly prefer my Atomic stiff RC's to the Fischers for feel, although I can go faster with the Fischer's in certain conditions, and the bases seem to wax better. What adds to my confusion is that the Equipe has carbon layers, which are presumably for added stiffness. In case it matters, I'm 5'10" and weigh about 147lbs. Thanks for any advice! David |
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A properly fit pair of race skis can last 10 years of use. Is it worth the
$100 or whatever you'll save with the soft pair to not get what you really want? I'd really advise skiing on some demo skis (ask the local shops) and more importantly be properly fitted. A good shop will not sell you a pair of skis if they don't fit. Paul Haltvick Bay Design and Build - LLC Engineering, Construction and Information Technology Services FSx - Fischer / Swix Racing wrote in message ups.com... I'm in a muddle about stiff versus soft in the Salomon Equipe 10 skate ski. The muddle is because I have a hard-to-pass-up purchase option on a 186cm Equipe 10 soft, whereas I've convinced myself that I preferred stiff skis. My experience has been most with the Atomic RS line, where the stiffness seems to give me added control I need on downhills. I've got Fischer soft SCS classic skis, which seem to be floppy" for me, and don't know how this feel would translate to a skate ski. I greatly prefer my Atomic stiff RC's to the Fischers for feel, although I can go faster with the Fischer's in certain conditions, and the bases seem to wax better. What adds to my confusion is that the Equipe has carbon layers, which are presumably for added stiffness. In case it matters, I'm 5'10" and weigh about 147lbs. Thanks for any advice! David |
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I haven't bought skis in a long time, but I thought that stiff/soft was
determined by the trail/snow conditions. I'd think you'd like the stiff skis for HARD/ICY downhills. And that the floppy soft Fischers might come on strong in mashed potatoes conditions with soft tracks. That kind of thing. Probably the stiff Atomics would suck in soft snow whether going uphill or down. So, you should make sure you get a good fit on all skis, then buy as many as you can afford to fit the trail conditions you're likely to encounter. Also, is it pretty darn important to start out with suitable base grinds as well? Or is it still fine for one to put in their own rilling/structure. (Or is self-structuring something one does in addition to a fancy stone grind?) I suppose one starts with a properly fitted med-flex for both classic and skate. If you love the Birkie and are a midpacker then you also need your Birkie skis which are soft, right? ---But still fitted to you. Etc., etc., on out for your local trail conditions and races. Right now I have 2 sets of skis, both soft---so I figure I'm set for those conditions and for the Birkie. But I need some stiffer skis to fill out my quiver. : ) My ideal scene would have soft/med/stiff skis in both classic and skate and all fitted to me. Sigh! --JP upnorthmag.com |
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On 14 Mar 2006 09:20:00 -0800, wrote:
I haven't bought skis in a long time, but I thought that stiff/soft was determined by the trail/snow conditions. http://www.engineeredtuning.net/SkateFlex.pdf JFT **************************** Remove "remove" to reply Visit http://www.jt10000.com **************************** |
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The PDF doesn't really speak to the issue.
My allegation is that skis have to both match the skier and match the terrain. That is, Skier X will end up with several sets of skis that all are selected to fit him but which are different from each other so that they're fast and stable in a variety of conditions---typically soft (Birkie), hard/boilerplate and medium trails. Is that the case? Seems likely. --JP upnorthmag.com |
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This PDF suggests that skiers get fit with the right flex, but it
doesn't seem to emphasize matching ski-flex to terrain. Yet I believe this is a huge factor. I think that a skier will end up with several sets of skis, which are hopefully all fit correctly to his weight (and style), but which vary amongst depending on the trail conditions expected. That is, ideally one has a soft, med and stiff flex ski to work best (fast and stable) with soft, med and hardpack trails. --JP |
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