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America's disappearing ski bum
On 11/30/10 23:19, Evojeesus wrote:
On Dec 1, 3:19 am, The Real wrote: On 11/30/10 13:08, Evojeesus wrote: And what if you get diabetes, macular degeneration or cancer and don't have insurance? How does that work in corpotocratic medicine? You show up at the hospital and they take care of you for free. They have to do that. So if you show up with cancer they have to assign you an oncologist and all that and start the necessary multi-month treatments? Is that going to to be good quality cancer-care if you don't have insurance? I don't really know. I *know* that people get rotten quality cancer care even with 100% coverage (yeah, that's possible) just because you choose the wrong hospital which uses the wrong doctors. Some problems can't be cured by throwing money at them. Maybe expanding medical schools and making admissions merit-only would help, but the results of that won't show up for quite a while anyway. Upon reflection -- yeah, you show up at the emergency room with mysterious symptoms which turn out to be advanced cancer and I'd be willing to bet money that they wouldn't kick you back out on the street. -- Cheers, Bev +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ "I don't care who your father is! Drop that cross one more time and you're out of the parade!" |
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On Dec 4, 9:46*pm, The Real Bev wrote:
On 11/30/10 23:19, Evojeesus wrote: On Dec 1, 3:19 am, The Real *wrote: *On 11/30/10 13:08, Evojeesus wrote: * *And what if you get diabetes, macular degeneration or cancer and don't * *have insurance? How does that work in corpotocratic medicine? *You show up at the hospital and they take care of you for free. *They *have to do that. So if you show up with cancer they have to assign you an oncologist and all that and start the necessary multi-month treatments? Is that going to to be good quality cancer-care if you don't have insurance? I don't really know. *I *know* that people get rotten quality cancer care even with 100% coverage (yeah, that's possible) just because you choose the wrong hospital which uses the wrong doctors. * Some problems can't be cured by throwing money at them. *Maybe expanding medical schools and making admissions merit-only would help, but the results of that won't show up for quite a while anyway. Upon reflection -- yeah, you show up at the emergency room with mysterious symptoms which turn out to be advanced cancer and I'd be willing to bet money that they wouldn't kick you back out on the street. Bull****. Why don't you test that hypothesis and get back to us? |
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The Real Bev wrote:
On 11/30/10 23:19, Evojeesus wrote: On Dec 1, 3:19 am, The Real wrote: On 11/30/10 13:08, Evojeesus wrote: And what if you get diabetes, macular degeneration or cancer and don't have insurance? How does that work in corpotocratic medicine? You show up at the hospital and they take care of you for free. They have to do that. So if you show up with cancer they have to assign you an oncologist and all that and start the necessary multi-month treatments? Is that going to to be good quality cancer-care if you don't have insurance? I don't really know. I *know* that people get rotten quality cancer care even with 100% coverage (yeah, that's possible) just because you choose the wrong hospital which uses the wrong doctors. Some problems can't be cured by throwing money at them. Maybe expanding medical schools and making admissions merit-only would help, but the results of that won't show up for quite a while anyway. Upon reflection -- yeah, you show up at the emergency room with mysterious symptoms which turn out to be advanced cancer and I'd be willing to bet money that they wouldn't kick you back out on the street. If you were one of the lucky ones. Ever read the stories of people dumped on skid road in hospital gowns? It happens. |
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On Dec 5, 7:43*pm, The Real Bev wrote:
On 12/05/10 11:02, Bob F wrote: The Real Bev wrote: *On 11/30/10 23:19, Evojeesus wrote: *On Dec 1, 3:19 am, The Real * wrote: * On 11/30/10 13:08, Evojeesus wrote: * And what if you get diabetes, macular degeneration or cancer * and don't *have insurance? How does that work in corpotocratic *medicine? * You show up at the hospital and they take care of you for free. They have *to do that. *So if you show up with cancer they have to assign you an oncologist *and all that and start the necessary multi-month treatments? Is that *going to to be good quality cancer-care if you don't have insurance? *I don't really know. *I *know* that people get rotten quality cancer *care even with 100% coverage (yeah, that's possible) just because you *choose the wrong hospital which uses the wrong doctors. * Some *problems can't be cured by throwing money at them. *Maybe expanding *medical schools and making admissions merit-only would help, but the *results of that won't show up for quite a while anyway. *Upon reflection -- yeah, you show up at the emergency room with *mysterious symptoms which turn out to be advanced cancer and I'd be *willing to bet money that they wouldn't kick you back out on the *street. If you were one of the lucky ones. Ever read the stories of people dumped on skid road in hospital gowns? It happens. Yes, but around here we call it Skid Row. *Such people are generally mentally challenged in some way and are unable to cope in ANY way. That doesn't make it any nicer, of course, but who is supposed to pay for the care of such people? Decent people take care of the unfortunate. Bev Ashley would let them die in squalor. Ah, teabaggers. No wonder this psychopathic pathological liar posts here. Her kind of people: utterly without any decency or ethics or morals |
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The Real Bev wrote:
On 12/05/10 11:02, Bob F wrote: The Real Bev wrote: On 11/30/10 23:19, Evojeesus wrote: On Dec 1, 3:19 am, The Real wrote: On 11/30/10 13:08, Evojeesus wrote: And what if you get diabetes, macular degeneration or cancer and don't have insurance? How does that work in corpotocratic medicine? You show up at the hospital and they take care of you for free. They have to do that. So if you show up with cancer they have to assign you an oncologist and all that and start the necessary multi-month treatments? Is that going to to be good quality cancer-care if you don't have insurance? I don't really know. I *know* that people get rotten quality cancer care even with 100% coverage (yeah, that's possible) just because you choose the wrong hospital which uses the wrong doctors. Some problems can't be cured by throwing money at them. Maybe expanding medical schools and making admissions merit-only would help, but the results of that won't show up for quite a while anyway. Upon reflection -- yeah, you show up at the emergency room with mysterious symptoms which turn out to be advanced cancer and I'd be willing to bet money that they wouldn't kick you back out on the street. If you were one of the lucky ones. Ever read the stories of people dumped on skid road in hospital gowns? It happens. Yes, but around here we call it Skid Row. Such people are generally mentally challenged in some way and are unable to cope in ANY way. That doesn't make it any nicer, of course, but who is supposed to pay for the care of such people? Such people are people without insurance. period. They don't get free care the same as insured people. They get stabilized and released, sometimes without any support for sick weakened patients. The lie that anyone gets free care is just that - a lie. |
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On Dec 5, 8:09*pm, "Bob F" wrote:
The Real Bev wrote: On 12/05/10 11:02, Bob F wrote: The Real Bev wrote: *On 11/30/10 23:19, Evojeesus wrote: *On Dec 1, 3:19 am, The Real * wrote: * On 11/30/10 13:08, Evojeesus wrote: * And what if you get diabetes, macular degeneration or cancer * and don't *have insurance? How does that work in corpotocratic *medicine? * You show up at the hospital and they take care of you for free. *They have to do that. *So if you show up with cancer they have to assign you an *oncologist and all that and start the necessary multi-month *treatments? Is that going to to be good quality cancer-care if you don't have insurance? *I don't really know. *I *know* that people get rotten quality *cancer care even with 100% coverage (yeah, that's possible) just *because you choose the wrong hospital which uses the wrong *doctors. * Some problems can't be cured by throwing money at them. *Maybe expanding medical schools and making admissions merit-only *would help, but the results of that won't show up for quite a while anyway. Upon reflection -- yeah, you show up at the emergency room with *mysterious symptoms which turn out to be advanced cancer and I'd be *willing to bet money that they wouldn't kick you back out on the *street. If you were one of the lucky ones. Ever read the stories of people dumped on skid road in hospital gowns? It happens. Yes, but around here we call it Skid Row. *Such people are generally mentally challenged in some way and are unable to cope in ANY way. That doesn't make it any nicer, of course, but who is supposed to pay for the care of such people? Such people are people without insurance. period. *They don't get free care the same as insured people. They get stabilized and released, sometimes without any support for sick weakened patients. The lie that anyone gets free care is just that - a lie.- Turns out you have a shred of decency in you, asshole. So when are you going to challenge your buddies here on the sick lies they tell about me? First, YOU have to stop lying about me. Man up, ppppppuuuuuussssssyyyyyy. Start posting with your real, full name. Hiding your identity is a form of lying. |
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On Dec 5, 9:09*pm, "Bob F" wrote:
Such people are people without insurance. period. *They don't get free care the same as insured people. They get stabilized and released, sometimes without any support for sick weakened patients. The lie that anyone gets free care is just that - a lie. You get what you pay for. Why should those that choose an addicted, worthless, life like trunky's get their **** for free? Actions/ consequenses. And beyond that, why don't you and your ilk lower your own standard of living and pay. No one is stopping you. You can afford an insurance premium or two can't you? I heard a report yesterday that Gates and Buffet say "tax me more". Why don't they just take $100K and send the rest in? The government will take it. Or how about they open a store and just hand $10,000 to everyone that comes in for their health insurance? I'm sure no one would spend it on booze or cigarettes. Why do you need me? Take the money that Dems spend on elections. Anyone know how much that is? How many insurance policies would that buy? |
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On Dec 6, 8:32*am, pigo wrote:
On Dec 5, 9:09*pm, "Bob F" wrote: Such people are people without insurance. period. *They don't get free care the same as insured people. They get stabilized and released, sometimes without any support for sick weakened patients. The lie that anyone gets free care is just that - a lie. You get what you pay for. Why should those that choose an addicted, worthless, life like trunky's get their **** for free? Actions/ consequenses. And beyond that, why don't you and your ilk lower your own standard of living and pay. No one is stopping you. You can afford an insurance premium or two can't you? I heard a report yesterday that Gates and Buffet say "tax me more". Why don't they just take $100K and send the rest in? The government will take it. Or how about they open a store and just hand $10,000 to everyone that comes in for their health insurance? I'm sure no one would spend it on booze or cigarettes. Why do you need me? Take the money that Dems spend on elections. Anyone know how much that is? How many insurance policies would that buy? Not as much as what the Republicans spend. |
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On Dec 6, 9:36*am, Richard Henry wrote:
Not as much as what the Republicans spend. Seemed to me that Edwards spent record amounts. He's a real beaut. I'm not so sure about that. But whatever it is, it's a lot of money on both sides, agreed? But its the Dems that want to take peoples money and give it to others. Why don't they volunteer 90%? That would probably leave most of them with sizeable amounts to live on. I would take care of people that needed it. But in a manner that taking care of yourself was preferable. Warehouse accomodations, same meal everyday, every meal, no cash. Rather than food stamps people should get a coupon for a box of kraft mac and cheese per person over 15 per day. Under 15 gets 1 box for two days. |
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I'm not so sure about that. But whatever it is, it's a lot of money on
both sides, agreed? But its the Dems that want to take peoples money and *give it to others. As opposed to the Republicians who want to take other peoples money and give it to themselves? Like the 'temporary' taxes to fund Coors field and Invesco field here in Colorado. |
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