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Rottefella-Fischer partnership
I found this Swedish article (Jan 23 2006)
http://www.skidsport.com/shownews.asp?ID=4320 After a bit of digging (the Rottefella site has a horrible FLASH- based navigation menu !! ) I found: in Norwegian: http://www.rottefella.com/norsk/lesnyhet.cfm/?dok_id=60 in English: http://www.rottefella.com/english/le...cfm/?dok_id=62 Rottefella has entered into a partnership with Fischer which will make it the largest XC ski binding company in the world, and make the NNN binding system the world standard. (I am a NNN person :-) -- David Dermott , Wolfville Ridge, Nova Scotia, Canada email: WWW pages: http://www.dermott.ca/index.html |
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David: I din't read the article. Is Fischer going to make their boot
soles NNN? Do you really think there will be a universal binding standard? I am a Solomon guy - kind of by randomness because I just happened to find some good used Sol boots on close out when I bought my first decent pair of striding skis and then found some good used skis with sol. bindings (still have and still love - proving blind luck sometimes works out). I've stuck with Sol because of the expense of changing over bindings. I'm happy with the fit of my new Sol boots though and actually tried others, but went with the binding system I had, in spite of higher cost boots (you might know, the Carbons, over priced, are the ones that really fit best). Same with skating. I actually won a set of Fischer skating skis with Sol. bumblebee boots as my first set. I'm kind of concerned because I'll need to replace the boots in the next year or so and have never been totally happy with the comfort of my bumblebees and have tried Fischer boots and they are not even close. If I switch to Alpina or Rossy, I'll have to buy about $200 + of new bindings. All this is to say I WOULD LOVE A TRUELY UNIVERSAL BINDING SYSTEM. I just can't understand any real value of the Sol. system - any real, meaningful advantage over NNN. I have NO idea why two systems were developed. |
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Camilo wrote:
David: I din't read the article. Is Fischer going to make their boot soles NNN? Do you really think there will be a universal binding standard? I am a Solomon guy - kind of by randomness because I just happened to find some good used Sol boots on close out when I bought my first decent pair of striding skis and then found some good used skis with sol. bindings (still have and still love - proving blind luck sometimes works out). I've stuck with Sol because of the expense of changing over bindings. I'm happy with the fit of my new Sol boots though and actually tried others, but went with the binding system I had, in spite of higher cost boots (you might know, the Carbons, over priced, are the ones that really fit best). Same with skating. I actually won a set of Fischer skating skis with Sol. bumblebee boots as my first set. I'm kind of concerned because I'll need to replace the boots in the next year or so and have never been totally happy with the comfort of my bumblebees and have tried Fischer boots and they are not even close. If I switch to Alpina or Rossy, I'll have to buy about $200 + of new bindings. All this is to say I WOULD LOVE A TRUELY UNIVERSAL BINDING SYSTEM. I just can't understand any real value of the Sol. system - any real, meaningful advantage over NNN. I have NO idea why two systems were developed. Competition, to make the best solution? In my humble opinion, the Solomon flex rubber falls off and gets lost very often, but the NNN flex stays were it is supposed to stay. I have used both. -- Terje Henriksen Kirkenes |
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A copy of the press release (in english) can be found he
http://www.skinnyski.com/gear/display.asp?Id=4067 FWIW: "Fischer has for a long time been a cross country skiing partner with Salomon of France and their competing SNS-system. According to Fischer, the contract with Salomon will be terminated after the winter season 2006/2007." |
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What gets really crazy in all of this, is that (I _assume) Fischer will
want its skiers to quit using their current boots and switch all their skis over to Rottefella bindings. Meanwhile, (I _assume) Atomic will want its skiers to quit using their current boots and switch over the Salomon bindings. Maybe we should set up a clearing house for bindings where you can exchange 1 for 1. Boy, it gets interesting. Jay Wenner |
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Actually, that's a good idea Jay. I am always surprised that there
aren't more used bindings floating around. I guess people just stick with a system - as I said, I have. But I'd be much more likely to willingly change if the bindings weren't so expensive (when considering several sets). |
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Yeah, I read about the switch to NNN in Russian a week ago. I never
particularly liked Fischer boots (they look dull to me), but if it helps create more competition and leads to overall product improvement, so be it. |
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Welcome to the world of Mergers & Acquisitions. The reason for this
new deal it that Solomon had to end its partnership due to competition/antitrust regulatory directives from the European Commission due to being acquired by Amer Group, which owns Atomic. The Atomic/Soloman/Fischer triumvirate would have controlled the cross-country ski market in many European countries. It has nothing to do with the merits of the two binding systems or making users switch. |
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no, i'd say the thing that is due to wanting to make people switch
bindings is that new striding binding system by Sol. I'm very skeptical so far... |
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Here is the text and link to the European Commission Press Release:
http://europa.eu.int/rapid/pressRele...guiLanguage=en Mergers: Commission clears planned acquisition of Salomon by Amer Group, subject to conditions Reference: IP/05/1267 Date: 13/10/2005 IP/05/1267 Brussels, 13 October 2005 Mergers: Commission clears planned acquisition of Salomon by Amer Group, subject to conditions The European Commission has cleared under the EU Merger Regulation the proposed acquisition by Finnish winter sport hard goods manufacturer Amer Group of the Salomon business segment of Germany’s Adidas-Salomon AG. The Commission's clearance is conditional upon substantial modifications of the current cooperation agreement between Salomon and the Austrian ski manufacturer Fischer GmbH. In light of these commitments, the Commission has concluded that the transaction would not significantly impede effective competition in the European Economic Area (EEA) or any substantial part of it. "Consolidation in the skiing equipment industry cannot be allowed to lead to higher prices, lower quality or less innovative products. However, the commitments given by Amer will ensure that the merged entity will face sufficient competition pressure in all winter sport equipment markets ", Competition Commissioner Neelie Kroes said. Amer agreed to acquire the entire issued share capital and assets of the Salomon business of Adidas Salomon. Both companies manufacture and sell winter sport hard goods like alpine and cross-country skis and accessories (such as bindings and boots). The Amer Group is active in these markets through its wholly-owned subsidiary Atomic Austria GmbH. The transaction was subject to mandatory merger filings under the national merger control laws of six Member States, namely Austria, Germany, Italy, Poland, Spain and the United Kingdom. All Member States agreed with the parties’ application of to refer the case to the Commission. The Commission's investigation showed that the proposed acquisition of Salomon by Amer could significantly reduce competition in the markets for cross-country skis, in particular in Austria, Germany and France. Salomon and Fischer GmbH, currently the leading manufacturer of cross-country skis in the world, entered into a cooperation agreement in 1997 which has intensified over the years. As a result of the notified transaction, this close link between Salomon and Fischer in the segment of cross-country skis would have been extended to Amer/Atomic, Fischer’s main competitor in cross-country skis in Austria, Germany and France. This gave rise to the risk of a coordinated market conduct of the leading players in these markets. To address the Commission’s concerns, the parties have committed themselves to a significant reduction of the scope of the cooperation agreement between Fischer and Salomon. In particular, the elements of the agreement which facilitate the coordination of the commercial strategies of the parties and other clauses limiting the independent market conduct of Fischer will be removed. On 2006-02-09 12:46:04 -0700, "Zeke" said: no, i'd say the thing that is due to wanting to make people switch bindings is that new striding binding system by Sol. I'm very skeptical so far... |
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