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Old January 19th 05, 08:23 PM
todd
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I'm guessing most have heard about this avalanche just outside of The
Canyons resort in Park City, Utah last Friday.

There are some informative photos here, if you're interested;
http://tinyurl.com/4ge9e

Anyone who has been to The Canyons, ridden the 9990 lift, and possibly
even hiked up to the gate is all to familiar with the slide area shown.
Pretty sobering and a good reminder to check the avalanche forecast
before even considering backcountry riding. The Dutch Draw area is a
big lure for inbound skiers/riders because it is so easily accessable
from a lift and you board right back in-bounds and hop back on the
lift. On the day of the slide there were many people out of bounds as
evidenced by the multiple tracks on the ridge. These boarders, like
others, probably figured the run was safe based on the amount of tracks
already on slope. ...which it obviously wasn't, by the subsequent
slide and the stern warnings and other avalanches in Utah this year.
Ride safe, folks.

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Old January 19th 05, 09:13 PM
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todd wrote:

I'm guessing most have heard about this avalanche just outside of The
Canyons resort in Park City, Utah last Friday.

There are some informative photos here, if you're interested;
http://tinyurl.com/4ge9e

Anyone who has been to The Canyons, ridden the 9990 lift, and possibly
even hiked up to the gate is all to familiar with the slide area shown.
Pretty sobering and a good reminder to check the avalanche forecast
before even considering backcountry riding. The Dutch Draw area is a
big lure for inbound skiers/riders because it is so easily accessable
from a lift and you board right back in-bounds and hop back on the
lift. On the day of the slide there were many people out of bounds as
evidenced by the multiple tracks on the ridge. These boarders, like
others, probably figured the run was safe based on the amount of tracks
already on slope. ...which it obviously wasn't, by the subsequent
slide and the stern warnings and other avalanches in Utah this year.
Ride safe, folks.


I feel bad for the boarder, but it also shows that they were probably
not too familiar with avalanche safety. Also it shows the dedication and
knowledge for safety that pros have when they film in the back country.

Bless him and hope he's off to a better place where the pow is always safe.
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Old January 20th 05, 02:04 AM
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"todd" wrote in news:1106166189.918664.201760
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Anyone who has been to The Canyons, ridden the 9990 lift, and

possibly

Pretty much what me and a friend guessed when we heard last week.

What is not clear to me is whether any of these guys had proper
equipment with them? Not that its any guarantee as seen in Idaho.
Both of them had beacons but the third was unable to locate them.

After C. Kelly died I made a donation to the Canadian Avalanche
group and they sent out a book as well. After reading that no
way would I go near out of bounds without a proper course first
and beacon, etc.
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Old January 20th 05, 09:04 AM
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On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 02:04:23 GMT, "Mike M. Miskulin"
allegedly wrote:

After C. Kelly died I made a donation to the Canadian Avalanche
group and they sent out a book as well. After reading that no
way would I go near out of bounds without a proper course first
and beacon, etc.


Indeed. A course is essential as you get to learn from an expert and it
helps consolidate information that you read, hear etc. There's nothing
like digging your own snow pit and learning from what's really there,
especially with an expert to help out.

After that, it's a case of building up experience by going out with people
that know better.

Of course, as Kelly and his group demonstrated so graphically, even the
experts can be caught out.

Which book did you get?

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Old January 20th 05, 11:02 AM
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On 20 Jan 2005 09:04:06 GMT, Switters wrote:

Of course, as Kelly and his group demonstrated so graphically, even the
experts can be caught out.


Actually, it's worse than that. The stats seem to show that the more
experience you have, the *more* likely you are to get avalanched.
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Old January 20th 05, 02:09 PM
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Champ wrote:

On 20 Jan 2005 09:04:06 GMT, Switters wrote:


Of course, as Kelly and his group demonstrated so graphically, even the
experts can be caught out.



Actually, it's worse than that. The stats seem to show that the more
experience you have, the *more* likely you are to get avalanched.


Well the more experience you have, it also means the more incidences you
are exposed to acalanche situations. Experts will more likely venture
out of bounds, therefore the "risk" of getting caught in an avalanche is
much higher than non-experts who might try backcountry only here and there.
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Old January 20th 05, 03:18 PM
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FYI: Good news this week to the skiers/boarders who enjoy
out-of-bounds adventures that put rescue teams at risk.

In Douglas County, NV on NV-CA border.........YOU WILL BE SENT TO
PRISON, FINED A FEW BUCKS and billed for ALL related search expenses
associateed with personnel, helicopters, gas and oil, search dogs and
equipment.........but, again... ... only if caught out-of-bounds !
Law bcomes activated Thus 1/20/05 in NV.
Kind regards, LH 1/20/05

Read MSNBC News on 1/15/05 below. With any luck similar laws for many
Western States will be in effect in 2005-6.

The NV State Law text has already been mailed, 1/17, to both the
Governors' and Atty-Gen'ls of appropriate States.
URL BELOW:

MSNBC - Out-of-bounds skiing against the law in Douglas County
Address:http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6826245/

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Old January 20th 05, 05:35 PM
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On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 15:18:47 GMT, (L H) allegedly wrote:

FYI: Good news this week to the skiers/boarders who enjoy
out-of-bounds adventures that put rescue teams at risk.


Why is that good news? Or are you just trolling?

- Dave.

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Old January 20th 05, 05:41 PM
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"L H" wrote in message
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FYI: Good news this week to the skiers/boarders who enjoy
out-of-bounds adventures that put rescue teams at risk.

In Douglas County, NV on NV-CA border.........YOU WILL BE SENT TO
PRISON, FINED A FEW BUCKS and billed for ALL related search expenses
associateed with personnel, helicopters, gas and oil, search dogs and
equipment.........but, again... ... only if caught out-of-bounds !
Law bcomes activated Thus 1/20/05 in NV.
Kind regards, LH 1/20/05

Read MSNBC News on 1/15/05 below. With any luck similar laws for many
Western States will be in effect in 2005-6.

The NV State Law text has already been mailed, 1/17, to both the
Governors' and Atty-Gen'ls of appropriate States.
URL BELOW:

MSNBC - Out-of-bounds skiing against the law in Douglas County
Address:http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6826245/

Does this mean they have outlawed backcountry skiing? Sounds a little
extreme to me. Could be great news for the ski areas though.

Bob


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Old January 20th 05, 06:33 PM
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Bob wrote:
"L H" wrote in message


MSNBC - Out-of-bounds skiing against the law in Douglas County
Address:http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6826245/

Does this mean they have outlawed backcountry skiing? Sounds a little
extreme to me. Could be great news for the ski areas though.

Bob


There is no information on the text of the law in the article and the
media is notoriously incompetent interepreting such issues, but if the
neighboring land in is Federal public land (as is usually the case),
local or state governments have no authority to regulate which uses are
and are not acceptable (mountianeering, snowshoing O.K. but skiiing,
snowboarding not O.K. --all these have significnt avalache risk). If
that is what the law actually is doing, it is unenforcable as Federal
BLM, USFS, and PS regulations supercede it.

Even the Feds may not be able to impose such a restiction as the courts
might interpret such a rule as arbitrary. An attempt of that sort was
made at Crystal Mtn. in WA. The Forest Service quickly backed down when
a couple local groups threatened court action. The Park Service is
holding on with a regulatory dodge that probably will not hold up. In
any event no Fed action can be taken without an impact statement, a
record of decision and public hearings.

 




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