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"Mary Malmros" wrote in message ... This I disagree with, because there are plenty of rad-dude teenagers on skis and you _don't_ see them sideslipping down the steep. They know it makes them look like dorks. Just strapping on a snowboard, a "dork" is about the best one could hope for. |
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"pigo" wrote in message news:LqSdndlgatLIX3jcRVn- Boarder are the ones trying to blend into a skiers world. It's their problem. My contention is that they are not compatable. People don't play frisbee on golf courses during play. Where I am there are as many boarders as skiers. You are going to have to learn to deal with it. Additionally, skiiers and boarders turn differently. Watch and learn for your own safety. ****'em. They have to learn. But I don't ski where toys are allowed anyway. I like soft snow. Good luck. There are fewer places every year where you can avoid them. There are certainly none in my state. Additudes like yours are probably the biggest problem in this issue. Bob |
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The sport has matured quite a bit over the last 20 years or so. I remember
when there were packs--literally packs or 10 to 14 year old boarders on our mountains who thought they could "shred" and that it was their right to intimidate and take out any unwitting skiers they should come accross. Now they are in their 30's and 40's and trying to teach their ofspring both common sense--and how to ride responsably. It has been an interesting evolution. I don't talk trash about riders anymore--but I have no patience for "friends" (especially parents) who sandbag their "friends"(or children) and get them onto slopes they can't handle--regarless of being skiers or boarders. That just isn't fair--to say nothing of risking us all. And "friends" who tell their "friends"--"oh you don't need a lesson--just come with me." are the worst--regardless of what means of snow transportation they use. -- I ski, therefore I am wrote in message oups.com... Do snowboarders ski and do skiers snowboard? Some do both and others are just to comfy with there skiing or snowboarding, that they don't try both. I think before you can make assumptions, on snowboarders ruining the slopes. You should step out of your comfort zone and try something new. We boarders don't always rag on the skiers, unless they start with us. I have skied and snowboarded and they both tear up the slopes, if your willing to do new and exciting tricks! Its not a question of who does it because we all do it.We all have to share the space, so live with it and don't complain. |
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"Bob" wrote in message ... Where I am there are as many boarders as skiers. You are going to have to learn to deal with it. NO! I don't. I haven't skied at an area that allows boards in years. If Alta goes I move to the beach. Do you suppose those surfers will mind if I kayak in "their" waves? Additionally, skiiers and boarders turn differently. Watch and learn for your own safety. ****'em. They have to learn. But I don't ski where toys are allowed anyway. I like soft snow. Good luck. There are fewer places every year where you can avoid them. There are certainly none in my state. Additudes like yours are probably the biggest problem in this issue. There are two here. Both some of the best skiing in the country for their own reasons. My attitude has nothing to do with the FACT that a snowboard negatively effects both traffic patterns and snow quality. Enough so that I choose not to ski rather than mix. |
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"pigo" wrote in message news:VO-dnXrvMK5BDXvcRVn- NO! I don't. I haven't skied at an area that allows boards in years. If Alta goes I move to the beach. Do you suppose those surfers will mind if I kayak in "their" waves? From what I've heard from my kayaker friends, the surfers are very hard to deal with. I really can't imagine why anyone would get so worked up about snowboarders. I co-existed with them for years before I took up the challenge of riding. It's certainly your loss if you choose to respond this way. As I understand it, most resorts would go out of business without the boarders. They are saving both sports. Bob |
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Bob wrote:
I really can't imagine why anyone would get so worked up about snowboarders. It's usenet. People get worked up about some of the most silly-assed things you could imagine. (Hint: it's not really about the boarders) Now get out there and teach those nascent boarders how to do it right! -- //-Walt // // There is no Volkl Conspiracy |
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Bob wrote:
"pigo" wrote in message news:VO-dnXrvMK5BDXvcRVn- NO! I don't. I haven't skied at an area that allows boards in years. If Alta goes I move to the beach. Do you suppose those surfers will mind if I kayak in "their" waves? From what I've heard from my kayaker friends, the surfers are very hard to deal with. Ha. That WOULD be poetic justice: pigo taking his kayak into the surf. I really can't imagine why anyone would get so worked up about snowboarders. I co-existed with them for years before I took up the challenge of riding. It's certainly your loss if you choose to respond this way. Snowboarding is one of pigo's hot-buttons. There are plenty of others who have legit objections to some common snowboard behaviors but aren't worked up about it, so be careful not to dismiss anyone who _does_ object as being "so worked up". -- Mary Malmros Some days you're the windshield, other days you're the bug. |
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"Bob" wrote in message ... "pigo" wrote in message news:VO-dnXrvMK5BDXvcRVn- NO! I don't. I haven't skied at an area that allows boards in years. If Alta goes I move to the beach. Do you suppose those surfers will mind if I kayak in "their" waves? From what I've heard from my kayaker friends, the surfers are very hard to deal with. And their the borders. Hmmmmmm, imagine that. I really can't imagine why anyone would get so worked up about snowboarders. I co-existed with them for years before I took up the challenge of riding. It's certainly your loss if you choose to respond this way. Too bad for you. As I understand it, most resorts would go out of business without the boarders. They are saving both sports. I ski at two that are very popular and highly rated for their own reasons. They don't allow boards. |
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"Mary Malmros" wrote in message ... Snowboarding is one of pigo's hot-buttons. There are plenty of others who have legit objections to some common snowboard behaviors but aren't worked up about it, so be careful not to dismiss anyone who _does_ object as being "so worked up". Behaviors are something I can deal with on an individual basis. But that doesn't mean that I can't recognize behaviors that run in packs. But I can take care of myself, I feel sorrier for the women and children that are "accidently" run over more often according to my observance. What I don't like (again) is the traffic pattern and effect on the under foot snow. |
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pigo wrote:
"Mary Malmros" wrote in message ... Snowboarding is one of pigo's hot-buttons. There are plenty of others who have legit objections to some common snowboard behaviors but aren't worked up about it, so be careful not to dismiss anyone who _does_ object as being "so worked up". Behaviors are something I can deal with on an individual basis. But that doesn't mean that I can't recognize behaviors that run in packs. But I can take care of myself, I feel sorrier for the women and children that are "accidently" run over more often according to my observance. What I don't like (again) is the traffic pattern and effect on the under foot snow. Neither my stepson nor myself have ever been run into by another skier or boarder. My wife OTOH gets hit by as boarder nearly every time we go skiing. Usually in a slow skiing area such as the approach to a lift by someone sliding out of control and way too fast for the area. I would have to say I generally agree with your observations. I have not found them ALL to be jerks though (but an inordinate number seem to be). One boarder, about 10 years old, last year helped my step son when he bailed on a jump and for some reason ejected both poles. He stepped out of his board quicker then we could sidestep back uphill and ran uphill to retrieve them for us. He was actually quite a pleasant little guy. And IIRC he wasn't side slipping either. -- To reply by email remove "_nospam" |
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