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Sledge, Pulk?
mccannam sed:
On Jan 20, 9:15*pm, BGhouse wrote: mccannam sed: Has anyone built a sledge or pulk for towing your gear while xc skiing? Just putting the fitting touches on a pulk I'll be using during a Ski Patrol Mountain Travel and Rescue course. *Here's my write-up on it: http://webpages.charter.net/bghouse/SkiPulk/ Doesn't address your tracked trail requirement. Thanks BG, that's useful site for building a pulk, I wish I would have seen it sooner. I'm using the 7' pvc pipes for my person to sled connection. I figure if it gets too cold I'm not going, but if I'm out there and then it gets cold.... It seems a whole lot of folk use PVC without a problem ... Maybe carry a simple repair kit with some kind of sleeve that could be glued/taped/clamped over a break. OTOH, I plan to use a tow line as a back-up to the tracers. Funny thing, the Erapro sled is made about 20 minutes from my house yet I only found out about from you. Ain't that the way it is. I spent considerable time looking for a local source, then ended up ordering it from REI. I'm going to add some suspenders to my waist belt as I discovered that there is a significant downward pull on the belt that had me hiking it up every once in a while. I've heard of that. One solution I heard was to attach it to a day pack. I'll keep that in mind during sea-trails! Good luck. -- BG - W Michigan |
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Sledge, Pulk?
On Jan 21, 5:51 pm, BGhouse wrote:
mccannam sed: On Jan 20, 9:15 pm, BGhouse wrote: mccannam sed: Has anyone built a sledge or pulk for towing your gear while xc skiing? Just putting the fitting touches on a pulk I'll be using during a Ski Patrol Mountain Travel and Rescue course. Here's my write-up on it: http://webpages.charter.net/bghouse/SkiPulk/ Doesn't address your tracked trail requirement. Thanks BG, that's useful site for building a pulk, I wish I would have seen it sooner. I'm using the 7' pvc pipes for my person to sled connection. I figure if it gets too cold I'm not going, but if I'm out there and then it gets cold.... It seems a whole lot of folk use PVC without a problem ... Maybe carry a simple repair kit with some kind of sleeve that could be glued/taped/clamped over a break. OTOH, I plan to use a tow line as a back-up to the tracers. Funny thing, the Erapro sled is made about 20 minutes from my house yet I only found out about from you. Ain't that the way it is. I spent considerable time looking for a local source, then ended up ordering it from REI. I'm going to add some suspenders to my waist belt as I discovered that there is a significant downward pull on the belt that had me hiking it up every once in a while. I've heard of that. One solution I heard was to attach it to a day pack. I'll keep that in mind during sea-trails! Good luck. -- BG - W Michigan If you are jerry rigging a pulk set up- check out the Chariot ski set up and how the telescopic poles attach (at an angle to the pulk), as well as the beefiness of the hip belt (any large pack belt would work)- I find it works very nicely and it is not cheating to look at some proven designs : ) sounds like fun! cheers, K |
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Sledge, Pulk?
a pulk behind skis.
Has anybody a similar report for pulk behind snowshoes? I don't have any kind of sense of balance, so skis are not on. Travelling on snowshoes is a lot faster than falling down every 20 seconds. Socks |
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Sledge, Pulk?
On Jan 22, 11:23*am, Puppet_Sock wrote:
apulkbehind skis. Has anybody a similar report forpulkbehind snowshoes? I don't have any kind of sense of balance, so skis are not on. Travelling on snowshoes is a lot faster than falling down every 20 seconds. Socks Hi, I finished my pulk, I walked around with it just to see what it would be like and it pulled fine. You might want to shorten the poles a bit as it seems like the snowshoe tracks have tighter corners. mm http://mark.mccanna.googlepages.com/pulk |
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Sledge, Pulk?
I've got the Chariot ski kit - this works very well with the skis a
lot wider than normal tracks so it doesn't sit in the tracks (but doesn't sit on them and damage them). Not sure of the exact dimensions, but not convinced that's terribly important either. |
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Sledge, Pulk?
mccannam wrote:
Hi, I finished my pulk, I walked around with it just to see what it would be like and it pulled fine. You might want to shorten the poles a bit as it seems like the snowshoe tracks have tighter corners. mm http://mark.mccanna.googlepages.com/pulk Sorry to be so late finding this thread. Here is a manual that tells how to build a pulk: http://www.skipulk.com/images/pulkbook.pdf The poles work real sweet, I use them when I winter camp. Ed Huesers http://www.grandshelters.com |
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Sledge, Pulk?
I've had good luck with ski-sleds that just had the skis bolted to the
sled with wood-slat back-up so bolts wouldn't pull thru the plastic. I didn't try to keep the camber in the ski as is pictured at the one link---it seems like the load will eventually bend over the bolts. Well, we use our ski-sleds for ADULT sledding as well as for pulling stuff around! We find that the plastic sled bends with the camber of the ski anyway. I vaguely recall 9.5" being a good comfy ski track width (when I built a track-setter). There was a thread here years ago on the variations--- I don't recall the standard. If you're off by an inch it feels awkward! We connected our poles just with simple rope loops---never had failure. I always GREATLY prefer shock-absorbing poles. And the poles are always CROSSED for good turning. I made my poles with a dowel, eye-hook, hollow alum conduit that the dowel could slide inside of, bungee cord. It worked great for classic striding, for skating, for shoeing. (I agree that shoeing could use shorter poles for tight terrain.) I remember doing some fun adjusting of pole-length and bungee length to keep skis from hitting the sled and to absorb my entire ski-lunges. With any kind of heavy load a suspended pole is needed otherwise you have a wretched sense of starting/stopping all that momentum no matter what your mode of travel. Maybe there's a place for a rigid pole, though. Have fun! I'll do a photo write-up on this at my OYB site sometime. My pulk is presently disassembled so I can't provide pics right now. --JP outyourbackdoor.com |
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Sledge, Pulk?
jeff potter wrote:
With any kind of heavy load a suspended pole is needed otherwise you have a wretched sense of starting/stopping all that momentum no matter what your mode of travel. Maybe there's a place for a rigid pole, though. The poles I use are 1/2" diameter solid fiberglass and can be obtained in any farm supply store. They are sold for putting up electric fences. I too experienced the hercky jercky motion until I got the entire linkage so it had no slop in it. Now the pulk and I travel as one. I've skied full speed down through the trees with the pulk in tow and had no problems. I've also had the sled roll over when the weight was loaded to high and I was traversing a side hill. The poles twisted up like pretzels but were fine once I took off the waist belt and untwisted them. I can't imagine this with metal poles. Have fun! Yes, always. Ed Huesers Http://www.grandshelters.com |
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Sledge, Pulk?
[ jeff potter ]
With any kind of heavy load a suspended pole is needed otherwise you have a wretched sense of starting/stopping all that momentum no matter what your mode of travel. Maybe there's a place for a rigid pole, though. I've heard that people travelling over glaciers with a really heavy pulk (think skiing to the South Pole) sometimes use really long, rigid poles. The theory being that if you fall through a snow bridge the pulk stays on top and the poles hold you up. I'm a bit skeptical, as you usually make a big hole if you fall through with skis on, but it might be better than nothing. Around here (Norway) many people ski with their small kids in pulks. I think the poles currently are aluminum mostly, and they're hinged in the middle for easier transportation. This is the most popular one: http://fjellpulken.no/ Martin -- "An ideal world is left as an exercise to the reader." -Paul Graham, On Lisp |
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Martin Thornquist wrote: I've heard that people travelling over glaciers with a really heavy pulk (think skiing to the South Pole) sometimes use really long, rigid poles. The theory being that if you fall through a snow bridge the pulk stays on top and the poles hold you up. The problem is that this presumes your sled's travel is perpendicular to the line of the crevasse and not colinear to the snow bridge. Most of the time: it won't be. Skis are very good distributing weight compared to unshod walking boots except for very wide crevasses as in large enough to swallow a sno-cat (think Mawson's Will and his ponies breaking through snow bridges). Then the ski gives you a false sense of security until you get to the thinnest part of the bridge. You can get over thin Antarctic snow bridges with skis which you can't do with a sledge. I'm a bit skeptical, as you usually make a big hole if you fall through with skis on, but it might be better than nothing. People trying solo traversals and winter ascents of Denali have tried horizontally carrying ladders or long strong poles (and back packs). The advantage on temperate/continental glaciers unlike ice sheets is that you have an idea of flow direction and some sense (but not always) how crevasses run (rememeber: not always like bends/turns). N. Uemura's body has never been found on Denali, and he used this solo glacier travel system. -- |
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