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Ski fall line to fall line
For those of you who have any skiing left this year, here's
an interesting thing to try. I was introduced to it at a clinic recently. The idea is this: One might typically think, as they move through one turn to the next, in terms of the end of the turn, then, as one starts the next turn, of the finish of that next turn. As if the *finish* of the turn is the big goal, that's what you plan for, what you look for. All the emphasis in your mind is on the finish, and how you'll start the next turn, as well as *where* you'll start it. As such, one might get all tied up in those complexities of how to finish up, and start the next turn, etc. But, what if you concentrated mostly on the *middle* of each turn? Once you're in the middle of one turn, start looking and planning for the *middle* of the next turn. Plan where the *middle* of the next turn will be. Then just let all that stuff in between happen as it might. Ski fall line to fall line. So, the extension is done by the time you reach the middle of the turn, and the flexion begins after you've passed the middle of the turn. Think of the middle of the turn that way. End extension, begin flexing One of the leaders was saying that the part of the turn at which he feels the safest is that part when he is facing straight down the hill. The very middle of the turn. Hmm. That's the part most people are the most afraid of. I don't usually feel all that safe there, but it's like I was starting to. I'm still playing around with it, but I really liked the way the whole thing was working for me as I followed along with the drills. . |
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foot2foot wrote:
But, what if you concentrated mostly on the *middle* of each turn? Once you're in the middle of one turn, start looking and planning for the *middle* of the next turn. Plan where the *middle* of the next turn will be. Then just let all that stuff in between happen as it might. Ski fall line to fall line. When on groomed piste I like to ski from start of the turn to start of the turn. For the great carving experience one has to start the turn quite a bit before one hits the fall line. With the old-school skis the start of the turn happended later and closer to the fall line, or that's at least how it feels to me personally. Anyway, that's the critical part of the turn for me, once I've changed to the other edge and I'm convinced the speed & radius of the turn won't throw me off-piste, I can ride it all the way back to uphill-direction if necessary. I just could not do that with the old-school skis.. |
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foot2foot wrote:
For those of you who have any skiing left this year, here's an interesting thing to try. I was introduced to it at a clinic recently. The idea is this: One might typically think, as they move through one turn to the next, in terms of the end of the turn, then, as one starts the next turn, of the finish of that next turn. As if the *finish* of the turn is the big goal, that's what you plan for, what you look for. All the emphasis in your mind is on the finish, and how you'll start the next turn, as well as *where* you'll start it. As such, one might get all tied up in those complexities of how to finish up, and start the next turn, etc. But, what if you concentrated mostly on the *middle* of each turn? Once you're in the middle of one turn, start looking and planning for the *middle* of the next turn. Plan where the *middle* of the next turn will be. Then just let all that stuff in between happen as it might. Ski fall line to fall line. So, the extension is done by the time you reach the middle of the turn, and the flexion begins after you've passed the middle of the turn. Think of the middle of the turn that way. End extension, begin flexing One of the leaders was saying that the part of the turn at which he feels the safest is that part when he is facing straight down the hill. The very middle of the turn. Hmm. That's the part most people are the most afraid of. I don't usually feel all that safe there, but it's like I was starting to. I'm still playing around with it, but I really liked the way the whole thing was working for me as I followed along with the drills. . Could you mail this to me at next winter? Our slopes are pretty green right now... |
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ups.com... foot2foot wrote: But, what if you concentrated mostly on the *middle* of each turn? Once you're in the middle of one turn, start looking and planning for the *middle* of the next turn. Plan where the *middle* of the next turn will be. Then just let all that stuff in between happen as it might. Ski fall line to fall line. When on groomed piste I like to ski from start of the turn to start of the turn. For the great carving experience one has to start the turn quite a bit before one hits the fall line. With the old-school skis the start of the turn happended later and closer to the fall line, or that's at least how it feels to me personally. Anyway, that's the critical part of the turn for me, once I've changed to the other edge and I'm convinced the speed & radius of the turn won't throw me off-piste, I can ride it all the way back to uphill-direction if necessary. I just could not do that with the old-school skis.. Yes, I see what you're saying. I haven't tried it in terms of railroad track carving, I'll have to check it out. |
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"Jeff" wrote in message Could you mail this to me at next winter? Our slopes are pretty green right now... Yes, I think it's time for the warm weather sports now. Thanks for the reply, it's a pleasure to see your posts. |
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In article ,
"foot2foot" wrote: For those of you who have any skiing left this year, here's an interesting thing to try. I was introduced to it at a clinic recently. The idea is this: One might typically think, as they move through one turn to the next, in terms of the end of the turn, then, as one starts the next turn, of the finish of that next turn. As if the *finish* of the turn is the big goal, that's what you plan for, what you look for. All the emphasis in your mind is on the finish, and how you'll start the next turn, as well as *where* you'll start it. As such, one might get all tied up in those complexities of how to finish up, and start the next turn, etc. But, what if you concentrated mostly on the *middle* of each turn? Once you're in the middle of one turn, start looking and planning for the *middle* of the next turn. Plan where the *middle* of the next turn will be. Then just let all that stuff in between happen as it might. Ski fall line to fall line. So, the extension is done by the time you reach the middle of the turn, and the flexion begins after you've passed the middle of the turn. Think of the middle of the turn that way. End extension, begin flexing One of the leaders was saying that the part of the turn at which he feels the safest is that part when he is facing straight down the hill. The very middle of the turn. Hmm. That's the part most people are the most afraid of. I don't usually feel all that safe there, but it's like I was starting to. I'm still playing around with it, but I really liked the way the whole thing was working for me as I followed along with the drills. . There's a technique for teaching parallel turns called the "Fan Progression. The whole idea of the technique is to get people past the fear of having their skis right in the fall line. You start with someone pointing their skis for a shallow traverse and have them turn up into the slope until they stop. Then you gradually have them start in a steeper and steeper direction (creating a "fan" of tracks, if each time were to start from the same location) until they are pointing directly downhill for the first time. Then you have them go *past* straight downhill and point slightly into the other direction than the turn they are about to start. Eventually, they get to a point where they are starting pointing to the left of the fall line at an ordinary angle before they turn to the right, through the fall line until they are pointing to the right of the fall line... ....and then they can start just linking them... -- Alan Baker Vancouver, British Columbia "If you raise the ceiling 4 feet, move the fireplace from that wall to that wall, you'll still only get the full stereophonic effect if you sit in the bottom of that cupboard." |
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foot2foot wrote:
STUFF CUT Ever watch a World Cup level slalom skier free skiing, doing warmup runs? It's a revelation and a treat. |
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"lal_truckee" wrote in message
. .. foot2foot wrote: STUFF CUT Ever watch a World Cup level slalom skier free skiing, doing warmup runs? It's a revelation and a treat. And those would be? |
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"Phlubarb" [email protected] wrote in message news:cGhhdHBoaWw=.b15a33bbdaa30ccc85ef240902d3c485 @1113959909.nulluser.com... foot2foot wrote: snip I don't want to be rude but if I wanted to get my underwear all balled up in technique, I'd take up golf. I hate to tell you this but if people had to think about every movement they make, they'd never get anywhere. Putting in the time is what makes one better - with an occasional suggestion. Skiing behind someone better than you is also effective. It's amazing what you can pick up. Progress can only be made when one is relaxed - all these infinite number of pointers do is tense somebody up. That's all true but we can be thankful that at least he's not just making up ludicrous bull**** like youngloon. It's beyond spastic. |
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Phlubarb wrote:
foot2foot wrote: snip I don't want to be rude but if I wanted to get my underwear all balled up in technique, I'd take up golf. Of to Coventry with you, and he's notifying the police too. ant |
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