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Back Country Skiing?
I don't know the deffinition for back country skiing. Would someone please
tell me what it is? Thanks -- Totus possum, totum Deum. Totus ero, totum meum. WSW |
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I don't know the deffinition for back country skiing. Would someone please
tell me what it is? If it's not in the English dictionary, there is no definition. Usage is loose among all who invoke it. Why would you even need a defnition? JJS |
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In article KUlLf.3569$Cp4.1764@edtnps90, News wrote: I don't know the deffinition for back country skiing. Would someone please tell me what it is? If you're using your own effort to get up the hills and you're not skiing on a prepared track, that's backcountry skiing. Covers everything from a short jaunt in your back yard to skiing down Everest. _ Booker C. Bense -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBQ/4TCmTWTAjn5N/lAQHgjwP+IaQPhFDhyusB4l23ydoUQj7xCiJEuaKM IdeNjITV5DHPcwmxKMizLrsEDlk9SPOqSvwJ/Wg7IYvGxRDC9zWpJFQaJUNZex2B XHv7QZpgrUoTwDvM98muar/sT5i5ueWUeoMX5x/8rnN7Ygaox9g4/xpPvX2T8CG/ fhu3B/b4rlo= =Mm3C -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
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"Booker C. Bense"
bbense+rec.skiing.backcountry.Feb.23.06@telemark. slac.stanford.edu wrote in message ... -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- In article KUlLf.3569$Cp4.1764@edtnps90, News wrote: I don't know the deffinition for back country skiing. Would someone please tell me what it is? If you're using your own effort to get up the hills and you're not skiing on a prepared track, that's backcountry skiing. Covers everything from a short jaunt in your back yard to skiing down Everest. _ Booker C. Bense Thanks that is what I thought but I was not sure -- Totus possum, totum Deum. Totus ero, totum meum. WSW |
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[ Booker C. Bense ]
If you're using your own effort to get up the hills and you're not skiing on a prepared track, that's backcountry skiing. Covers everything from a short jaunt in your back yard to skiing down Everest. I more or less agree, but what do you call xc skiing on groomed tracks in the backcountry? Around here we have vast networks of (different states of) groomed tracks streching far into the woods and the mountains. There are marked routes deep in the mountains run regularly with snowmobiles but without set tracks -- not snowmobile routes, we don't have those outside of the far North as recreational snowmobiling is banned, they are run with snowmobiles to pack the snow and mark the route for skiers. Does it turn from deep backcountry in summer to not backcountry in winter because a groomed track was laid down? Martin -- "An ideal world is left as an exercise to the reader." -Paul Graham, On Lisp |
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Booker C. Bense
If you're using your own effort to get up the hills and you're not skiing on a prepared track, that's backcountry skiing. Covers everything from a short jaunt in your back yard to skiing down Everest. Martin Thornquist I more or less agree, I think I'd agree completely with Booker here. but what do you call xc skiing on groomed tracks in the backcountry? Track skiing. Modern groomed tracks are a far cry from natural conditions. Modern tiny XC racing gear excels on these, but, depending on the snow conditions, going off the track with such gear is hopeless. Perhaps a bit like the difference between road cycling and mountain biking. Except bigger. Speaking of cycling, a prepared XC-skiing track (skating style) is great for cycling. In summer too, btw. |
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Martin Thornquist but what do you call xc skiing on groomed tracks in the backcountry? Track skiing. Modern groomed tracks are a far cry from natural conditions. Modern tiny XC racing gear excels on these, but, depending on the snow conditions, going off the track with such gear is hopeless. My main point was in the part you snipped, that there is a continuum from perfectly groomed tracks which I wouldn't call "backcountry" via several categories down to marked routes only done once in a while with snowmobile to maintain marking and pack the snow somewhat. What do you call backcountry and what not? Perhaps a bit like the difference between road cycling and mountain biking. Except bigger. This is pretty similar, there's a wide selection of paved roads, good gravel roads, not so good gravel roads, good paths, smaller paths. I've biked on all of them (well, dragged the bike along the smallest paths), and I'm not sure where you would draw the lines. Some people use cyclocross (beefed-up road racers) for path biking these days... Speaking of cycling, a prepared XC-skiing track (skating style) is great for cycling. In summer too, btw. Around here they can be great for a while (in summer), and then suddenly you're in the middle of a swamp with mud up to the knees. :-) Martin -- "An ideal world is left as an exercise to the reader." -Paul Graham, On Lisp |
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In article ,
Martin Thornquist wrote: but what do you call xc skiing on groomed tracks in the backcountry? [ *@*.* ] Track skiing. Modern groomed tracks are a far cry from natural Track skiing. Wow, Marcus and I agree on something! 8^) My main point was in the part you snipped, that there is a continuum from perfectly groomed tracks which I wouldn't call "backcountry" via several categories down to marked routes only done once in a while with snowmobile to maintain marking and pack the snow somewhat. What do you call backcountry and what not? Look I see a spectrum, too, but unless we have a specific reason for making a distinction, I don't see a point except to try to make a definition to the subdirectories for this storage to beat people into a rut of this group and not rsa, rsn, etc. What are you looking for? That will determine a definition. You will find it circular and recursive. Skiing lacking certain knowledge is merely deficient skiing. Perhaps a bit like the difference between road cycling and mountain biking. Except bigger. This is pretty similar, there's a wide selection of paved roads, good gravel roads, not so good gravel roads, good paths, smaller paths. I've biked on all of them (well, dragged the bike along the smallest paths), and I'm not sure where you would draw the lines. Some people use cyclocross (beefed-up road racers) for path biking these days... Oh kinda. Tracks get placed for various reasons. A big part is the snow gets chopped up enough the beginners. Racing seeks consistency. etc. Speaking of cycling, a prepared XC-skiing track (skating style) is great for cycling. In summer too, btw. Around here they can be great for a while (in summer), and then suddenly you're in the middle of a swamp with mud up to the knees. :-) Sounds like Alaska. The snow machiners tend to like them to skier consernation some times. -- |
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Martin Thornquist wrote:
My main point was in the part you snipped, that there is a continuum from perfectly groomed tracks which I wouldn't call "backcountry" via several categories down to marked routes only done once in a while with snowmobile to maintain marking and pack the snow somewhat. What do you call backcountry and what not? Here is one of of the latter flavour, http://www.personal.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/no2005-1.jpg This is, allegedly, a marked trail (or so we were led to believe!) between 2 DNT huts. Didn't seem much like track skiing to us... ;-) Pete. -- Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK net http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/ |
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In article ,
Martin Thornquist wrote: in the backcountry? Around here we have vast networks of (different states of) groomed tracks streching far into the woods and the mountains. with snowmobiles but without set tracks -- not snowmobile routes, we Who pays for the gas? don't have those outside of the far North as recreational snowmobiling is banned, they are run with snowmobiles to pack the snow and mark the route for skiers. Does it turn from deep backcountry in summer to not backcountry in winter because a groomed track was laid down? How far from a road (infrastructure)? -- |
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