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Toko Poles/Grips
Heard from a shop owner yesterday what Nathan said a few months ago here,
Toko is getting out of the pole business after this year. He didn't know the status of their grip/strap system. Does anyone with connections to Toko know what their plans are for the 232 system? I was actually going into the shop to buy new grips and straps but now will hold off, don't want to get into a system that is being descontinued. As a side note, I am going with the Toko because I can't get replacements for my Exel Evolution straps. Dave |
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On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 08:07:35 -0500, "Dave Mayo-Kiely"
wrote: I can't get replacements for my Exel Evolution straps. I just got some Exel straps that are supposed to replace the Evolutions from the New Moon ski shop and they are OK, but not great. Quite a bit lighter but also much less supportive. Interestingly they came with a little doohickey that seems like it would allow straps from other companies (like Swix, Rex, KV2, INfinity) to work with Exel Evolution grips. I may try that soon. JT **************************** Remove "remove" to reply Visit http://www.jt10000.com **************************** |
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I just bought a new pair of 232s last Sunday, so I didn't need to hear
this. Hopefully grips and straps will still be available from somewhere in the future. I really like the strap system after skiing on Exel for as long as I can remember. |
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Reply from Ian Harvey at Toko to my email regarding this issue:
This is correct. There are plenty of straps on the market now and I anticipate them being available at least through the end of the season. We may have parts and more poles next fall, this depends on inventory in Switzerland. Thanks for your interest in Toko Ian Harvey Toko USA |
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Thanks Jim
Quite a bummer though. I was all set to make the big switch on several poles to Toko, now I am not so sure. Wonder what their reasons are? Seems like most of the peopel I tlak to that use the 232 system really like it. Dave "Jim Kelley" wrote in message oups.com... Reply from Ian Harvey at Toko to my email regarding this issue: This is correct. There are plenty of straps on the market now and I anticipate them being available at least through the end of the season. We may have parts and more poles next fall, this depends on inventory in Switzerland. Thanks for your interest in Toko Ian Harvey Toko USA |
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This is insane! They cant just kill this system. I got it when it was YOKO 232 two years ago. I like it, my wife likes it, there is nothing better to grab a water bottle in a race. I use straps alone for warm weather and rollerskiing too. |
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I've had a love-hate relationship with the 232s, and especially
Yoko/Toko's nonstandard and frequently changing implementation of it. It's been increasingly popular on the WC and elite level circuit, but I wonder if it's made any dent on the retail side. Perhaps entering the pole market was an attempt to do so, and in the end a business decision to exit the entire market. It couldn't have helped their cause to make grips that require cutting poles shorter than other brands' grips required, thus rendering poles useless if the buyer wanted to switch back (and not being up front about it). GG Dave Mayo-Kiely wrote: Thanks Jim Quite a bummer though. I was all set to make the big switch on several poles to Toko, now I am not so sure. Wonder what their reasons are? Seems like most of the peopel I tlak to that use the 232 system really like it. Dave "Jim Kelley" wrote in message oups.com... Reply from Ian Harvey at Toko to my email regarding this issue: This is correct. There are plenty of straps on the market now and I anticipate them being available at least through the end of the season. We may have parts and more poles next fall, this depends on inventory in Switzerland. Thanks for your interest in Toko Ian Harvey Toko USA |
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Speaking as a big fan of 232 and not in my official capacity as a Toko
Tech Team member, I expect someone will pick up the system for their poles. The decision to drop the poles was made by the top level folks over in Switzerland - I think it's just a hard-headed business decision based on markets, competition, and company focus. Toko makes great wax and tools and that's what it will focus on. Their parent company is Mammut - they make awesome mountaineering clothing so that's another area they will focus on. Skis, boots, and poles already have stiff competition and it only seems to be getting stiffer. Can't be everything to everyone, so out went the poles. A bummer, but that's life. Rob Bradlee --- Dave Mayo-Kiely wrote: Thanks Jim Quite a bummer though. I was all set to make the big switch on several poles to Toko, now I am not so sure. Wonder what their reasons are? Seems like most of the peopel I tlak to that use the 232 system really like it. Dave "Jim Kelley" wrote in message oups.com... Reply from Ian Harvey at Toko to my email regarding this issue: This is correct. There are plenty of straps on the market now and I anticipate them being available at least through the end of the season. We may have parts and more poles next fall, this depends on inventory in Switzerland. Thanks for your interest in Toko Ian Harvey Toko USA ===== Rob Bradlee Java, C++, Perl, XML, OOAD, Linux, and Unix Training |
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