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Petitions, petitions - A Schattie-like response.
On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 09:55:31 +1100, "ant"
wrote: Here in Australia, the climate has definitely changed, and it's having a devastating effect. Whether it's just a blip, or part of something bigger, we don't know.but it's forcing everyone to sit up and take notice. There is storm happening right now here in Sydney Pyrmont. Suzie -- Suzieflame Adieu alt.horror |
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Petitions, petitions - A Schattie-like response.
On Sat, 15 Dec 2007 16:18:45 -0800 (PST), Richard Henry
wrote this crap: The "coming ice age of the 70's" was a creation of popular magazines of ther time (perhaps a spinoff of the "nuclear winter" warnings) and was roundly scoffed at in scientific circles. Like the "global warming" crap coming out of Hollywood today. My T-shirt says, "This shirt is the ultimate power in the universe." |
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Petitions, petitions - A Schattie-like response.
On Sat, 15 Dec 2007 16:19:46 -0800 (PST), Richard Henry
wrote this crap: Do what you want, but don't tell me what to do, dumbass. Thus my fears are personified. Yer a dumbass. You fear goldfish. My T-shirt says, "This shirt is the ultimate power in the universe." |
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Petitions, petitions - A Schattie-like response.
On Dec 15, 5:19 pm, Richard Henry wrote:
On Dec 15, 4:02 pm, Harry wrote: Do what you want, but don't tell me what to do, dumbass. Thus my fears are personified.- Hide quoted text - Ok. He could have left of "dumbass". But then we would all suspect that it wasn't really "Harry" now wouldn't we? But besides that he is correct isn't he? I haven't heard of one GW advocate that has foregone any modern convenience. But rather their solutions seem to be to rationalize why their own use is justified if only those damn other people would do more. I hear that Darryl Hannah helps. She uses bio-diesel in her Hummer. |
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Petitions, petitions - A Schattie-like response.
On Dec 15, 5:22 pm, Richard Henry wrote:
Good example. The Montreal Protocol (reducing CFC production to protect the ozone layer) seems to be working. Or, more likely, the natural trend continues. |
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Petitions, petitions - A Schattie-like response.
On Dec 16, 8:20 am, pigo wrote:
On Dec 15, 5:22 pm, Richard Henry wrote: Good example. The Montreal Protocol (reducing CFC production to protect the ozone layer) seems to be working. Or, more likely, the natural trend continues. There is no "natural trend" of CFCs. They are entirely man-made. |
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Petitions, petitions - A Schattie-like response.
On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 08:19:28 -0800 (PST), pigo
wrote this crap: I haven't heard of one GW advocate that has foregone any modern convenience. But rather their solutions seem to be to rationalize why their own use is justified if only those damn other people would do more. I hear that Darryl Hannah helps. She uses bio-diesel in her Hummer. I heard that Sheryl Crow uses bio-diesel in her limo-party-bus while she tours the US. And she chewed out Algore for not using bio-fuel in his chartered jet. My T-shirt says, "This shirt is the ultimate power in the universe." |
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Petitions, petitions - A Schattie-like response.
On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 08:46:36 -0800 (PST), Richard Henry
wrote this crap: Good example. The Montreal Protocol (reducing CFC production to protect the ozone layer) seems to be working. Or, more likely, the natural trend continues. There is no "natural trend" of CFCs. They are entirely man-made. You can thank Boeing for putting CFCs in the atmosphere. When they were testing their jets, they had to simulate high altitude flight. They would pump them full of CFCs and test for leaks. When they were done, they released the CFCs into the atmosphere. My T-shirt says, "This shirt is the ultimate power in the universe." |
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Petitions, petitions - A Schattie-like response.
In article ,
The Real Bev wrote: Consider that the choice is not between doing something obvious and doing something stupid but between trying to ameliorate the problems caused by climate change and/or pollution and pretty much sending the world's economy down the tubes. It is going to be down the tubes if there is no action taken on AGW. As much as AGW deniers demand absolute proof (Which science cannot do) that AGW is happening before taking action, they tend to assume that major economic harm is already an absolute proof if polices and major actions is done to reduce carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gas emissions. There is actually strong probability that implementing reduction of greenhouse gas emissions by industrialized nations could save money or even make money. This comes from a combination of more energy efficiency, the lower costs of other forms of non fossil fuel energy sources if the price of fossil fuels continues to rise... http://tinyurl.com/yp6va4 One of the most pessimistic reports of economic scenario with curtailment of greenhouse gases in an industrialized nation is the Stern Report... Range of economic hardship implementing reduction greenhouse gas emissions in industrialize nations range from 1% reduction of GDP to reduction to annual economic growth of the GDP. Letting AGW go unbated could lead up to 20% reduction of GDP, according to the Stern Report. http://tinyurl.com/ye5to7 http://tinyurl.com/2xa3m8 http://tinyurl.com/264vnb There are downsides as well as upsides and either way involves a gamble. I don't think it's sensible to bet that the sky will fall within my grandchildren's lifetime. http://tinyurl.com/2edjk9 " As Martin Parry, co-chair of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, told reporters this month, "We are all used to talking about these impacts coming in the lifetimes of our children and grandchildren. Now we know that it's us." |
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Petitions, petitions - A Schattie-like response.
On Dec 16, 9:46 am, Richard Henry wrote:
On Dec 16, 8:20 am, pigo wrote: On Dec 15, 5:22 pm, Richard Henry wrote: Good example. The Montreal Protocol (reducing CFC production to protect the ozone layer) seems to be working. Or, more likely, the natural trend continues. There is no "natural trend" of CFCs. They are entirely man-made. Not a point since I was talking about the ozone layer. |
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